Oxford United 1 (Chapman 33) Aldershot Town 1 (Mekki 84) (From Oxford Mail)

Far too negative

At the end of the season , we can still get up to play the many giant clubs of the third division - without the lottery of the play offs
If we take 55 fro the last 25 then we will match Wycombe's third place total of 2010-11 (80 points)
It just needs say 16 wins 2 defeats and 7 draws
or 17 wins 4 defeats and 4 draws

Come on you yellows

Why was Heslop brought on?

Heslop...To get sent off !!... What a stupid red card.
Leven and Potter were hopeless...and to be honest the ref was one of the worst I have seen in charge of our games for ages...

Just back from game that was utter utter crap

Very poor show from the team , though under the circumstances I can understand why, hope we can refocus them in time for Wednesday ,

No midfield, no spark, no speed, no idea, nothing, pretty bad all round and time for CW to go, these players are of his choice and not one of them today other than Ryan Clarke can say they had a good game, oh I forgot, no height either.

Basically no hope whatsoever.

At this rate I shall not be renewing my season ticket and will pick and choose what games I want to see.

Sorry no more excuses we rely on indiviual players having a good game to get us out of the mire . They do not play as a team, with a half decent manager with the same players we could still make the play off. As the chairmen said he has the budget to do the job . PLEASE IL GET RID

Thought it was too good to last - top 3 spot disappearing over the horizon still only 7pts from relegation spot - more points dropped at home. I fear the cup games will be the focus as a play off spot is the best we can hope form and on this display we won't reach them. Still trying to give CW benefit of doubt but he makes it hard to believe he can turn round a below average team into an average one.

Beachump Mummy - why don't you eff off back to your hole in Swindon? Your team needs you in times of trouble and your manager is about to walk.

Ian Greaves took over bottom placed United (third division!!) at Christmas - no new signings - just 3 defeats in the rest of the season. His first game saw us beat top placed Charlton who had not lost for ages . Ron Saunders - great turn around . Where's my 'mate' - CWs great fan - the one who offered me a bet?

Adlibber quote .'Swindon? Your team needs you in times of trouble and your manager is about to walk'

Interesting, do you know something we don't. Personally I think he may be asked to leave, especially if his signings don't find the onion bag on a more regular basis. We are now 3 points off the playoff spot, not a major but hey our expectations are quite high now.

I’m as disappointed as anyone by results and league position (and yesterday’s flat, weary performance), but before anyone starts calling again for CW’s head, just three questions:
1. How many times in this entire calendar year (never mind this season) has CW been able to field anything like his best side?
2. As importantly – and maybe even more so – how often has he been able to field anything like a settled one?
3. How many fully fit players has he got to pick from on Wednesday?
Answers:
1. Never.
2. To any meaningful extent, never.
3. He’ll be hard pressed to field a fully fit eleven of any kind, let alone one that makes tactical sense.
Anyone who thinks this is (a) a typical problem faced by all clubs or (b) an “excuse”, is in need of a serious reality check. I for one am sticking right behind him and the team – they’re showing amazing resilience in exceptional circumstances. Come on you yellows.

BYS - you must be relieved that I rejected your offer of a £10 bet You must be. Much kinder (and more arrogant) of me not to (inevitably) take your £10 - instead of passing £10 to you if you are right , giving £50 to Cancer Research

BigYellowScarf wrote:
I’m as disappointed as anyone by results and league position (and yesterday’s flat, weary performance), but before anyone starts calling again for CW’s head, just three questions:
1. How many times in this entire calendar year (never mind this season) has CW been able to field anything like his best side?
2. As importantly – and maybe even more so – how often has he been able to field anything like a settled one?
3. How many fully fit players has he got to pick from on Wednesday?
Answers:
1. Never.
2. To any meaningful extent, never.
3. He’ll be hard pressed to field a fully fit eleven of any kind, let alone one that makes tactical sense.
Anyone who thinks this is (a) a typical problem faced by all clubs or (b) an “excuse”, is in need of a serious reality check. I for one am sticking right behind him and the team – they’re showing amazing resilience in exceptional circumstances. Come on you yellows.

There are not three distinct points there - are there? . Why keep Wilder? He must go - soon 2012 (since February!!) has been awful for United fans - hasn't it? Few managers can field their best side (yes, he has often had three of his best eleven and another two of his best 16 missing - yes, yes, yes) . A settled side is only any good (and worth remaining settled) if it doing well . There are many many many out there looking for work who would not do as badly as Wider has without his missing' superstars' . COYY

Worrying times on many counts.

When you are playing a team as poor as Aldershot at home do you really have to play with two left backs ? So we get a goal and then try to defend it. Pass the initiative back to them and concede. Can't remember that happening before.

I think Wilder may now try to save his skin via the JPT. Ludicrous as it seems it would be difficult to sack a manager that gets you to Wembley even of we finish 18th.

Of greater concern is the complete silence of the chairman. Is he interested ?

We need a buffer of ten points from the bottom two. Lenegan throwing in the towel means administration and a nasty way of going down.

Happy days !

We can still make the top three - Ian Greaves/ Ron Saunders style turn around is possible . Winning the JPT? - Michael Mouse - and that's an insult to the little fella. Even reaching say 5th round of the FA Cup would mean much less to me than United getting up to the third tier - a level we never sunk below from 1968 - 2001 (and were largely above)

listened to game on yellow player and we sounded very flat but i think that the problems of the last week must have been emotionly draining on the sqad so i would give them some leeway there. cw in his post match interview was plainly affected more by recent events than sats result and i hope that they can lift themselves on weds night., as the crowd wereobviously affected by the sadness of the occasion as well.

BigYellowScarf says...
10:38am Sun 9 Dec 12

Excuses excuses excuses, are you the managers apologist?
GOOD managers find a way to WIN despite adversity, GOOD managers get their team playing decent FOOTBALL, the manager of OUFC does neither.. He's NO good!
Forget the excuses for the players absolute DIRE 'performance' likewise, it was obviously easier to sloth around the pitch like lumbering idiots using the tragic loss of a former player as the EXCUSE!! Wouldn't it have been much more of a Tribute to that player if they went out and gave their ALL in stead? Too much like hard work? It was a disgraceful and shocking performance by management and players alike, NO excuses. They don't deserve support, and many are drifting away- who can blame them? I donot.

Brenda Jackson wrote:
BigYellowScarf says...
10:38am Sun 9 Dec 12

Excuses excuses excuses, are you the managers apologist?
GOOD managers find a way to WIN despite adversity, GOOD managers get their team playing decent FOOTBALL, the manager of OUFC does neither.. He's NO good!
Forget the excuses for the players absolute DIRE 'performance' likewise, it was obviously easier to sloth around the pitch like lumbering idiots using the tragic loss of a former player as the EXCUSE!! Wouldn't it have been much more of a Tribute to that player if they went out and gave their ALL in stead? Too much like hard work? It was a disgraceful and shocking performance by management and players alike, NO excuses. They don't deserve support, and many are drifting away- who can blame them? I donot.

Manchester United first post Munich match - with cobbled together team - won 3-0 in FA Cup

Trog21 wrote:
Wilder try's hard, but, pun intended, is way out of his league. Oxford are a team of non league tryers - I don't think he's got the contacts to build a decent team, we have no creative midfielders, no natural goalscorer, constable couldn't hit a barn door with a banjo - if he fell in a barrel of boobs he'd come out sucking his thumb!. Look at teams with half the budgets - burton and Cheltenham spring to mind, far better, recognised goal scorers than we've got - why is that? Frontline for Cheltenham is Zebroski and Harrad on gates of 2500!! What the hell is going on? Apparently Gillingham got battered at Rotherham yesterday but won the game - might be past his best but still capable of scoring in div 2, deon burton got both. Oxford need to get their act together and fast as all the teams below are improving. Wilder out now or he'll be sacked in may with oxford relegated.

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Brenda Jackson wrote:
BigYellowScarf says...
10:38am Sun 9 Dec 12

Excuses excuses excuses, are you the managers apologist?
GOOD managers find a way to WIN despite adversity, GOOD managers get their team playing decent FOOTBALL, the manager of OUFC does neither.. He's NO good!
Forget the excuses for the players absolute DIRE 'performance' likewise, it was obviously easier to sloth around the pitch like lumbering idiots using the tragic loss of a former player as the EXCUSE!! Wouldn't it have been much more of a Tribute to that player if they went out and gave their ALL in stead? Too much like hard work? It was a disgraceful and shocking performance by management and players alike, NO excuses. They don't deserve support, and many are drifting away- who can blame them? I donot.

Oh dear Brenda! As I’ve posted on occasions before, questions needs to be asked of the board. CW is the best we can get, the club has NO money and CW is under contract – work it out Brenda that equates to 'money' to sack him and who they going to attract to the club to replace him ????

Why is the board silent?
What is the game plan with Oxf Utd?
Where is the investment going to come from (if there is to be any investment to build for the future)?

I know everyone is calling for CW’s head, but I believe he is trying his absolute hardest with no support or interest coming from above him and sections of fans rubbishing him. I will continue to support him 100% because he could just as easily walk away from this and take a qualified coaching role elsewhere earning much more ££’s as well.

We all love our club and have different views which is a good thing, but simply replacing CW is not the answer there are far bigger questions that need addressing with regards to the future of Oxf Utd.

greengarden wrote:

Brenda Jackson wrote:
BigYellowScarf says...
10:38am Sun 9 Dec 12

Excuses excuses excuses, are you the managers apologist?
GOOD managers find a way to WIN despite adversity, GOOD managers get their team playing decent FOOTBALL, the manager of OUFC does neither.. He's NO good!
Forget the excuses for the players absolute DIRE 'performance' likewise, it was obviously easier to sloth around the pitch like lumbering idiots using the tragic loss of a former player as the EXCUSE!! Wouldn't it have been much more of a Tribute to that player if they went out and gave their ALL in stead? Too much like hard work? It was a disgraceful and shocking performance by management and players alike, NO excuses. They don't deserve support, and many are drifting away- who can blame them? I donot.

Oh dear Brenda! As I’ve posted on occasions before, questions needs to be asked of the board. CW is the best we can get, the club has NO money and CW is under contract – work it out Brenda that equates to 'money' to sack him and who they going to attract to the club to replace him ????

Why is the board silent?
What is the game plan with Oxf Utd?
Where is the investment going to come from (if there is to be any investment to build for the future)?

I know everyone is calling for CW’s head, but I believe he is trying his absolute hardest with no support or interest coming from above him and sections of fans rubbishing him. I will continue to support him 100% because he could just as easily walk away from this and take a qualified coaching role elsewhere earning much more ££’s as well.

We all love our club and have different views which is a good thing, but simply replacing CW is not the answer there are far bigger questions that need addressing with regards to the future of Oxf Utd.

Many many many clubs do much better than us with NO money (yes NO money) - even ones with 2500 crowds . We could attract many many managers with credentials better than CW - we are not looking for Championship standard managers

Beau champ mummy wrote:
Just back from game that was utter utter crap

Agree. BBBBoooooorrrriiiinn
nnngggg. Taxi for Wilder.

The excuses used yesterday were of a manager who has run out of ideas. Out of his depth as a football league manager and if you are not sure just look at last seasons loan signings and what the final result was at the end of the season. What really bothers me is the total silence of the man who is the Chairman and owner of the club. Without question last season the money was made available for those loan signings with Wilder's words saying that once he had a fully fit squad we would see a difference but when the manager makes so many bad decisions such as going 4 3 3 at Plymouth playing young Marsh in the manner that he did would you have confidence in him. Yesterdays game the performance was poor not one player stood out.All Wilders signings. Yes there has been bad news but this is a results game and the show has to go on. I am sure there are a few of us who go to the Kassam would say that 2012 in way or the other has been a bad year but you don't hear them moan about it. They get on with life and what they have to do,Wilder take note if you think you are hard done by there are those a lot worse off than you. Mr. Lenegan appears to have lost omplete interest and I feel we should all be greatly concerned as to what the future holds.

The Manager wrote:
The excuses used yesterday were of a manager who has run out of ideas. Out of his depth as a football league manager and if you are not sure just look at last seasons loan signings and what the final result was at the end of the season. What really bothers me is the total silence of the man who is the Chairman and owner of the club. Without question last season the money was made available for those loan signings with Wilder's words saying that once he had a fully fit squad we would see a difference but when the manager makes so many bad decisions such as going 4 3 3 at Plymouth playing young Marsh in the manner that he did would you have confidence in him. Yesterdays game the performance was poor not one player stood out.All Wilders signings. Yes there has been bad news but this is a results game and the show has to go on. I am sure there are a few of us who go to the Kassam would say that 2012 in way or the other has been a bad year but you don't hear them moan about it. They get on with life and what they have to do,Wilder take note if you think you are hard done by there are those a lot worse off than you. Mr. Lenegan appears to have lost omplete interest and I feel we should all be greatly concerned as to what the future holds.

Exactly!! I agree hence my earlier post. There are far bigger and significant questions that need addressing right now with regard to the future of Oxf Utd. The club is broke they can't eve afford to sack CW, we need investment

obviously the fans who post on here all want the best for the club even if we dont always agree on the best way to achieve it .realistically we can not afford to sack cw, though some might say we cant afford not to. the lack of investment is a bone of contention for some but no suggestion as to where it may come from. i think that we are capable of turning things around but will have to wait and see.

The future does not great but I do feel that the time is right for Wilder to go and any manager with any decency left in him would resign and not wait to be fired. There is a total lack of motivation from the Chairman down to the ball boys and after the display against Aldershot one can only hope there is going to a massive injection of energy by management and players alike for the Accrington game. Defeat could be a severe set back for the Christmas period but changes in more ways than one are desperately needed when January comes round. Please please Mr. Wilder no more sick excuses just admit that you have one out of ideas and go quietly.

Guys, get real - the responsibility has to lie with whoever chooses the players to be signed and the £1500/week contracts they're on - that at the end of the day is the manager. ALL managers have injury problems and admittedly we have had our fair share, but that's not an excuse you can rollout week after week. The team are playing with no direction, enthusiasm, creativity or clue and this is down to the manager. As said, he's out of his depth. Burton had Calvin Zola up front today and Accrigton James Beattie, the crowd was about 2500. Comeon wilder pull your finger out or take a walk.

Big Yellow Scarf -is Chris Wilder or wants to be. Your defence of an inept manager is laughable - 4 years one promotion and now league two mediocrity if we're lucky. Whatever excuses you keep churning out for CW it won't make up for his dreadful signings and his clear lack of ideas.

I don't know who's worse at the moment a clueless manager or the disinterested Chairman - the fans are being insulted by both.

adlibber wrote:
Big Yellow Scarf -is Chris Wilder or wants to be. Your defence of an inept manager is laughable - 4 years one promotion and now league two mediocrity if we're lucky. Whatever excuses you keep churning out for CW it won't make up for his dreadful signings and his clear lack of ideas.

I don't know who's worse at the moment a clueless manager or the disinterested Chairman - the fans are being insulted by both.

He must be CW in disguise. BYS - not heard about the bet you would have lost had I been less charitable. Season's greetings to you

adlibber wrote:
Big Yellow Scarf -is Chris Wilder or wants to be. Your defence of an inept manager is laughable - 4 years one promotion and now league two mediocrity if we're lucky. Whatever excuses you keep churning out for CW it won't make up for his dreadful signings and his clear lack of ideas.

I don't know who's worse at the moment a clueless manager or the disinterested Chairman - the fans are being insulted by both.

He must be CW in disguise. BYS - not heard about the bet you would have lost had I been less charitable. Season's greetings to you

adlibber wrote:
Big Yellow Scarf -is Chris Wilder or wants to be. Your defence of an inept manager is laughable - 4 years one promotion and now league two mediocrity if we're lucky. Whatever excuses you keep churning out for CW it won't make up for his dreadful signings and his clear lack of ideas. I don't know who's worse at the moment a clueless manager or the disinterested Chairman - the fans are being insulted by both.

Agree 100% - BYS is really CW in disguise!

The Club would love a lot more paying customers like him, easily pleased and a little lamb.

The injury situation must be a blessing in disguise for Chris Wilder at the moment. I mean it is those injuries that is keeping him in the job. The truth is that if he had every single player fit it would not make a ounce of difference. We would still be a average midtable side. Sadly the injured players are just as average as the fit ones. Face it folks. There is one good reason why we are where we are and are likely to stay. WE ARE JUST NOT GOOD ENOUGH.

We can still make 3rd place at the end of the season - time we caught up with big and cash rich (ho, ho) Stevenage and big Brentford etc

We can still make 3rd place at the end of the season - time we caught up with big and cash rich (ho, ho) Stevenage and big Brentford etc

Yes oldun -we all believe in Santa Clause too!!

Brenda Jackson wrote:
Yes oldun -we all believe in Santa Clause too!!

Ian Greaves took over a United side which was bottom of the table - result (with no new players) - just 3 defeats in the remainder of the season. Are you saying that the best we can hope for is another play off lottery - lost out when we came 2nd (our highest placing in the Conference) . We can rise above the play offs this season