Wilder blasts woeful Oxford United

Oxford Mail: A dejected Deane Smalley holds his head in disappointment after seeing his penalty saved by Scunthorpe goalkeeper Sam Slocombe during yesterday’s 2-0 defeat A dejected Deane Smalley holds his head in disappointment after seeing his penalty saved by Scunthorpe goalkeeper Sam Slocombe during yesterday’s 2-0 defeat

A furious Chris Wilder tore into his Oxford United players, and admitted they were lucky to lose only 2-0 against Scunthorpe United.

The U’s have won plenty of plaudits for their resilient streak, which had taken them top of Sky Bet League Two, but it deserted them in a woeful display yesterday, which began badly and only got worse.

Deon Burton was allowed to head in the opener unmarked, and although the striker had a penalty saved before the break and missed a one-on-one in the second half, the Iron still cruised to victory.

David Syers doubled the lead and an awful afternoon for the hosts was completed when Deane Smalley had a penalty saved late on.

Wilder pulled no punches in his assessment.

“We didn’t deserve anything from the game. It was by far and away our poorest performance this season,” the United manager said.

Oxford Mail:

Scunthorpe striker David Syers races through to lob stranded United goalkeeper Ryan Clarke

“We’ve escaped, to be fair – I think they deserved to win by a couple more at least.

“If the (Smalley) penalty had gone in and we had got something out of the game it would have been an absolute travesty, because we were second best all afternoon.

“We made poor decisions, gifted their goal with a poor clearance – and the second one was another mistake.

“They played like the home side, we made poor decisions in every part of the game.”

The defeat rounded off a bad few days for United, who lost 3-2 at home to Plymouth Argyle on Boxing Day.

It was the first time they have lost successive league games since April and dropped to fifth as a result – their lowest position of the season.

Wilder was particularly concerned by the lack of spirit, which has been a feature of the campaign to date.

He said: “Mentally we looked, especially in the last 15 minutes, really sorry for ourselves, which is not like us.”

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10:17am Mon 30 Dec 13

Richard Wickson says...

I am well aware the players let themselves down badly over the past two games but I say for the umpteenth time, the bench is too weak to make changes that might improve things and the Manager lacks the nous to try and change things with who's on the pitch. He was made to look good while the good run was going but now looks like the Wilder of past seasons, clueless. Time for a change? I can't see it doing harm, look at Scunthorpe, they made a change and now they look a good side without much change in players, the manager obviously has seen their individual strength and has them playing to them, we were lucky not to lose by a bigger margin.
I am well aware the players let themselves down badly over the past two games but I say for the umpteenth time, the bench is too weak to make changes that might improve things and the Manager lacks the nous to try and change things with who's on the pitch. He was made to look good while the good run was going but now looks like the Wilder of past seasons, clueless. Time for a change? I can't see it doing harm, look at Scunthorpe, they made a change and now they look a good side without much change in players, the manager obviously has seen their individual strength and has them playing to them, we were lucky not to lose by a bigger margin. Richard Wickson

10:29am Mon 30 Dec 13

OxfordResident says...

Wilder cannot do much with probably 9 players not doing the basics of their profession correctly (other than sub them, and as you said there wasn't much on the bench to change it to).
Wilder cannot do much with probably 9 players not doing the basics of their profession correctly (other than sub them, and as you said there wasn't much on the bench to change it to). OxfordResident

10:33am Mon 30 Dec 13

oldun says...

Dire, dire, dire .

In this oh so mediocre division, a 4th place finish would be a massive disappointment

For me (OK, maybe not for you) it would mean that we would stand a low chance of escaping from the 4th div at the end of the season

The last 13 seasons have seen us playing generally very poor opposition which far too often beat us

OK, OK ,I know that we have no 'divine right' to be in the top 3 divisions - but 13 consec seasons already outside the is amazing for all but the very small clubs

Of course, we are well capable of winning at Rodney Parade - but unless we compete better, particularly in midfield , then we will lose - as so many have said we need a plan B

I look forward to that high thumbs down count - rare that anyone says what they disagree with - but that won't shut me up

Come on United
Dire, dire, dire . In this oh so mediocre division, a 4th place finish would be a massive disappointment For me (OK, maybe not for you) it would mean that we would stand a low chance of escaping from the 4th div at the end of the season The last 13 seasons have seen us playing generally very poor opposition which far too often beat us OK, OK ,I know that we have no 'divine right' to be in the top 3 divisions - but 13 consec seasons already outside the is amazing for all but the very small clubs Of course, we are well capable of winning at Rodney Parade - but unless we compete better, particularly in midfield , then we will lose - as so many have said we need a plan B I look forward to that high thumbs down count - rare that anyone says what they disagree with - but that won't shut me up Come on United oldun

10:44am Mon 30 Dec 13

adlibber says...

Wilder has leant nothing in 5 years he has been very fortunate to have a considerate and patient chairman but there comes a point when an overstayed welcome becomes a departure. 1pt from 9 2 more losses at home isn't even a surprise anymore as we seem to repeat the same collapse around the same time every season.
Wilder has leant nothing in 5 years he has been very fortunate to have a considerate and patient chairman but there comes a point when an overstayed welcome becomes a departure. 1pt from 9 2 more losses at home isn't even a surprise anymore as we seem to repeat the same collapse around the same time every season. adlibber

10:57am Mon 30 Dec 13

Richard Wickson says...

adlibber wrote:
Wilder has leant nothing in 5 years he has been very fortunate to have a considerate and patient chairman but there comes a point when an overstayed welcome becomes a departure. 1pt from 9 2 more losses at home isn't even a surprise anymore as we seem to repeat the same collapse around the same time every season.
Too many mince pies and Christmas dinners, they looked lethargic and disinterested. Two very poor performances and the usual play for each other spirit was painfully obviously missing.
[quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: Wilder has leant nothing in 5 years he has been very fortunate to have a considerate and patient chairman but there comes a point when an overstayed welcome becomes a departure. 1pt from 9 2 more losses at home isn't even a surprise anymore as we seem to repeat the same collapse around the same time every season.[/p][/quote]Too many mince pies and Christmas dinners, they looked lethargic and disinterested. Two very poor performances and the usual play for each other spirit was painfully obviously missing. Richard Wickson

11:37am Mon 30 Dec 13

Sid Snakey says...

Hugely, hugely disappointing.

It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling.

Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division.

It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up.

In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs.

And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration.
Hugely, hugely disappointing. It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling. Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division. It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up. In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs. And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration. Sid Snakey

12:00pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Open your eyes says...

Collective responsibility?

Not at this club, it's never been Wilder's fault, ever. The players were poor and have been poor for weeks, yet Wilder has to start taking some responsibility.

When his side needed motivating and encouraging, Wilder drifted back to the safety of the dugout. As per usual.
Collective responsibility? Not at this club, it's never been Wilder's fault, ever. The players were poor and have been poor for weeks, yet Wilder has to start taking some responsibility. When his side needed motivating and encouraging, Wilder drifted back to the safety of the dugout. As per usual. Open your eyes

12:31pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Richard Wickson says...

Open your eyes wrote:
Collective responsibility?

Not at this club, it's never been Wilder's fault, ever. The players were poor and have been poor for weeks, yet Wilder has to start taking some responsibility.

When his side needed motivating and encouraging, Wilder drifted back to the safety of the dugout. As per usual.
We see it every game, he's happy to take the plaudits when things go well but can't motivate his team when they need a lift. Sadly on last two games both players and manager look lost.
[quote][p][bold]Open your eyes[/bold] wrote: Collective responsibility? Not at this club, it's never been Wilder's fault, ever. The players were poor and have been poor for weeks, yet Wilder has to start taking some responsibility. When his side needed motivating and encouraging, Wilder drifted back to the safety of the dugout. As per usual.[/p][/quote]We see it every game, he's happy to take the plaudits when things go well but can't motivate his team when they need a lift. Sadly on last two games both players and manager look lost. Richard Wickson

2:21pm Mon 30 Dec 13

The London Yellows says...

Just think, any team with real ambition to win the league or even auto promotion would have played their hearts out and won our two Christmas home game or at the very least get draw and some points. We'd be three points clear of the rest and brimming with confidence ready for the second half of the season where traditionally it's harder to pick up points. Something has to be done about our home form, surely there must be an answer, I'm not saying get rid of CW or the background staff but if the board really want promotion then wake up before it's too late and we find ourselves in mid table, which could happen so easily in this tight division. COYY's
Just think, any team with real ambition to win the league or even auto promotion would have played their hearts out and won our two Christmas home game or at the very least get draw and some points. We'd be three points clear of the rest and brimming with confidence ready for the second half of the season where traditionally it's harder to pick up points. Something has to be done about our home form, surely there must be an answer, I'm not saying get rid of CW or the background staff but if the board really want promotion then wake up before it's too late and we find ourselves in mid table, which could happen so easily in this tight division. COYY's The London Yellows

2:47pm Mon 30 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

No midfield, slow players both in actions and thinking, no effort, these are the players Donkey Wilder has brought to the club and persists in selecting with his no tactical awareness.

Yes we have a lot of points away from home, but the home record stands at won 4, drawn 3 and lost 5, so that's 15 points won, 18 points lost, not exactly promotion stats are they?

He has to go, along with half a dozen of the slow players at the end of the season.
No midfield, slow players both in actions and thinking, no effort, these are the players Donkey Wilder has brought to the club and persists in selecting with his no tactical awareness. Yes we have a lot of points away from home, but the home record stands at won 4, drawn 3 and lost 5, so that's 15 points won, 18 points lost, not exactly promotion stats are they? He has to go, along with half a dozen of the slow players at the end of the season. BigAlBiker

4:55pm Mon 30 Dec 13

Headington Jim says...

Sid Snakey wrote:
Hugely, hugely disappointing.

It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling.

Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division.

It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up.

In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs.

And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration.
Well said Sid. Away from home with the opposition attacking us we are able to take advantage of the space that makes. Our usual solid defence has held and we have been able to score.
Those sides who have worked out that if they press us and close us down quickly, they will stifle us. Both Plymouth and Scunthorpe had two and even three defenders on our forwards when they had the ball. Our midfield playing deep left the forwards isolated and were unable to create space. They resorted to over the top high balls which were often misjudged and when Constable and Smalley got one, they were unable to find each other.
No bystander would believe we had two wingers on the park.
These are tactics which we consistently fail to work out.
Finally we gave away the ball so easily, hardly ever won a loose one and never put them under pressure.
[quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: Hugely, hugely disappointing. It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling. Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division. It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up. In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs. And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration.[/p][/quote]Well said Sid. Away from home with the opposition attacking us we are able to take advantage of the space that makes. Our usual solid defence has held and we have been able to score. Those sides who have worked out that if they press us and close us down quickly, they will stifle us. Both Plymouth and Scunthorpe had two and even three defenders on our forwards when they had the ball. Our midfield playing deep left the forwards isolated and were unable to create space. They resorted to over the top high balls which were often misjudged and when Constable and Smalley got one, they were unable to find each other. No bystander would believe we had two wingers on the park. These are tactics which we consistently fail to work out. Finally we gave away the ball so easily, hardly ever won a loose one and never put them under pressure. Headington Jim

5:17pm Mon 30 Dec 13

OxRoxBox says...

Headington Jim wrote:
Sid Snakey wrote:
Hugely, hugely disappointing.

It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling.

Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division.

It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up.

In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs.

And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration.
Well said Sid. Away from home with the opposition attacking us we are able to take advantage of the space that makes. Our usual solid defence has held and we have been able to score.
Those sides who have worked out that if they press us and close us down quickly, they will stifle us. Both Plymouth and Scunthorpe had two and even three defenders on our forwards when they had the ball. Our midfield playing deep left the forwards isolated and were unable to create space. They resorted to over the top high balls which were often misjudged and when Constable and Smalley got one, they were unable to find each other.
No bystander would believe we had two wingers on the park.
These are tactics which we consistently fail to work out.
Finally we gave away the ball so easily, hardly ever won a loose one and never put them under pressure.
Well said Jim and Sid!

Is CW nasty enough to use the "hair dryer" or just too scared to try something different at home other than play safe because of his tenuous grip on a Contract for more than 6 months? Back him or sack him please IL and in the meantime we must sing our lil hearts out at home come rain or shine and in sickness or in health.

Otherwise this time next season we could well be playing Cambridge and Luton again!
[quote][p][bold]Headington Jim[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Sid Snakey[/bold] wrote: Hugely, hugely disappointing. It's the manner of the two defeats that is so troubling. Those players will have gone from believing they were worthy of top spot, to now questioning in their own minds whether they are good enough to compete with the best in the division. It seems we simply cannot play well at home, teams know we can be out-fought in the middle of the park, they know we can be pressed deep, so we are going to have to rely on our away form to take us up. In these two games I have gone from really believing we could do it this season, to doubting whether we will even make the play-offs. And of course, the disappointment of putting on a poor show to the Boxing Day crowd. Oh the frustration.[/p][/quote]Well said Sid. Away from home with the opposition attacking us we are able to take advantage of the space that makes. Our usual solid defence has held and we have been able to score. Those sides who have worked out that if they press us and close us down quickly, they will stifle us. Both Plymouth and Scunthorpe had two and even three defenders on our forwards when they had the ball. Our midfield playing deep left the forwards isolated and were unable to create space. They resorted to over the top high balls which were often misjudged and when Constable and Smalley got one, they were unable to find each other. No bystander would believe we had two wingers on the park. These are tactics which we consistently fail to work out. Finally we gave away the ball so easily, hardly ever won a loose one and never put them under pressure.[/p][/quote]Well said Jim and Sid! Is CW nasty enough to use the "hair dryer" or just too scared to try something different at home other than play safe because of his tenuous grip on a Contract for more than 6 months? Back him or sack him please IL and in the meantime we must sing our lil hearts out at home come rain or shine and in sickness or in health. Otherwise this time next season we could well be playing Cambridge and Luton again! OxRoxBox

9:59am Tue 31 Dec 13

Doctor69 says...

Funny how many people are all of a sudden realising Wilder is not the man for the job. Been saying it for ages now, Wilder Out!

Remember the promotion season when the play offs saved us? Remember the season before last when we blew up after Xmas and dropped like a stone out of the top 7? Remember last season, which was complete rubbish? I'm sorry to say it but this has been coming, we are a poor outfit punching above our weight on the back of excellent away form. I firmly believe our poor home form is far more accurate reflection of Wilders oufc.

Over the past 2 seasons, how many home games have we won? How many times have we actually played well?

Thanks Chris, but your time is hopefully nearly up.
Funny how many people are all of a sudden realising Wilder is not the man for the job. Been saying it for ages now, Wilder Out! Remember the promotion season when the play offs saved us? Remember the season before last when we blew up after Xmas and dropped like a stone out of the top 7? Remember last season, which was complete rubbish? I'm sorry to say it but this has been coming, we are a poor outfit punching above our weight on the back of excellent away form. I firmly believe our poor home form is far more accurate reflection of Wilders oufc. Over the past 2 seasons, how many home games have we won? How many times have we actually played well? Thanks Chris, but your time is hopefully nearly up. Doctor69

4:04pm Tue 31 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

Kevin Davies released from Crystal Palace today, get him, if nothing else he can show the others what to do.
Kevin Davies released from Crystal Palace today, get him, if nothing else he can show the others what to do. BigAlBiker

4:15pm Tue 31 Dec 13

BigAlBiker says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
Kevin Davies released from Crystal Palace today, get him, if nothing else he can show the others what to do.
Make that Kevin Philipps, Kevin Davies would be handy as well.


Senior moment.
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: Kevin Davies released from Crystal Palace today, get him, if nothing else he can show the others what to do.[/p][/quote]Make that Kevin Philipps, Kevin Davies would be handy as well. Senior moment. BigAlBiker

8:07pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Davos P says...

That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme. Davos P

8:45pm Tue 31 Dec 13

oldun says...

Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so

We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris!
[quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris! oldun

12:20pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Doctor69 says...

Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
It's not just 2 defeats tho is it? It's 4 wins at home this season ( out of 13) , it's back to back home defeats, it's the manner of the defeats where we look like the away team. Put that on top of last season and the season before that, and it is down to the manager.

Anyone who thinks CW Is the man for the job care to explain how our home form is acceptable?
[quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]It's not just 2 defeats tho is it? It's 4 wins at home this season ( out of 13) , it's back to back home defeats, it's the manner of the defeats where we look like the away team. Put that on top of last season and the season before that, and it is down to the manager. Anyone who thinks CW Is the man for the job care to explain how our home form is acceptable? Doctor69

12:28pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Davos P says...

oldun wrote:
Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so

We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris!
You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun?
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris![/p][/quote]You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun? Davos P

2:29pm Wed 1 Jan 14

oldun says...

Davos P wrote:
oldun wrote:
Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so

We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris!
You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun?
Sorry , Davos, I am not the brightest - have a great year
[quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris![/p][/quote]You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun?[/p][/quote]Sorry , Davos, I am not the brightest - have a great year oldun

7:45pm Wed 1 Jan 14

Davos P says...

oldun wrote:
Davos P wrote:
oldun wrote:
Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so

We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris!
You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun?
Sorry , Davos, I am not the brightest - have a great year
Enjoy your's also. Let's hope it's Oxford's year!
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]"Bet Lenegan is reading these posts " - I don't think so We are sill in touch with the top 3 - he will stick a little longer with Chris - maybe much longer . Take us up Chris![/p][/quote]You didn't quite get the sarcasm did you Oldun?[/p][/quote]Sorry , Davos, I am not the brightest - have a great year[/p][/quote]Enjoy your's also. Let's hope it's Oxford's year! Davos P

4:59pm Fri 3 Jan 14

Richard Wickson says...

Doctor69 wrote:
Davos P wrote:
That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.
It's not just 2 defeats tho is it? It's 4 wins at home this season ( out of 13) , it's back to back home defeats, it's the manner of the defeats where we look like the away team. Put that on top of last season and the season before that, and it is down to the manager.

Anyone who thinks CW Is the man for the job care to explain how our home form is acceptable?
Hear hear our home form simply isn't acceptable and it's not just the last 2 games. It's been poor all season and this, to me, shows it's just deteriorated further still at a time when I didn't think it could get worse.
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Davos P[/bold] wrote: That's it. Two losses and let's sack the Manager! Clever strategy. Bet Lenegan is reading these posts dumbfounded as to why he didn't consider this innovative solution. No point in allowing the players to take responsibility for the defeats, it's always easier to blame one man rather than give him an opportunity to work through it. Just in case u didnt get the sarcasm I am in agreement with Lenegans decision on this. However, if two losses turn into five, then we finish outside the playoffs at end of season I stand by what I said last season - he does have to go but only then and no matter how much anyone whinges on here, CW will ONLY get the sack at the end of the season. Anything else would be foolish in the extreme.[/p][/quote]It's not just 2 defeats tho is it? It's 4 wins at home this season ( out of 13) , it's back to back home defeats, it's the manner of the defeats where we look like the away team. Put that on top of last season and the season before that, and it is down to the manager. Anyone who thinks CW Is the man for the job care to explain how our home form is acceptable?[/p][/quote]Hear hear our home form simply isn't acceptable and it's not just the last 2 games. It's been poor all season and this, to me, shows it's just deteriorated further still at a time when I didn't think it could get worse. Richard Wickson

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