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Waddock: No Oxford United players will be transfer-listed

Oxford Mail: Gary Waddock will not be placing any under-contract Oxford United players on the transfer list Gary Waddock will not be placing any under-contract Oxford United players on the transfer list

Oxford United’s players have been given no assurances they will be in the side next season, but Gary Waddock has not transfer-listed anyone under contract.

During a desperately disappointing finish to the campaign, which saw the U’s drop out of the Sky Bet League Two play-off places, the head coach suggested nobody was safe this summer.

Following a home defeat to Accrington Stanley last month, he said: “Big decisions need to be made and they certainly will be.”

Deane Smalley, Sean Rigg and Scott Davies, whose contracts expired at the end of the season, were released last week.

Loan trio Ryan Williams, Nicky Wroe and David Connolly have returned to their parent clubs, while James Constable and Tom Newey are considering contract offers.

For the moment no-one else is likely to leave, with those remaining at the club told they will be given the chance to claim a place in the team during pre-season.

Waddock said: “I’ve spoken to the players who are under contract.

“When they come back in they have to earn the right.”

The U’s boss has been busy chasing targets to improve the squad since the season finished, but is not actively looking to free up more room in the squad by making players available for transfer.

“There’s no point in doing that,” he said.

“There’s a good group of people here.

“The one thing I did say is there’s no guarantee they will be starting in that first team – that goes across the board.

“The ones I’ve moved out are out of contract and they’ve gone.

“Players that don’t figure in the early part of the season will have to make their minds up.”

Waddock also confirmed Jake Wright will remain United captain after the club activated a clause in the defender’s contract which extends his stay for another 12 months.

He said: “We’ve had a number of conversations since I’ve been here and he’s been good within the dressing room.

“His form wants to be better than it has been and he’s had injuries through the course of the season.

“He needs a breather just like all the other players do.”

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9:11am Thu 15 May 14

dovepe says...

Mullins should be Captain
Mullins should be Captain dovepe
  • Score: 34

9:14am Thu 15 May 14

Joe1 says...

Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis.
Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis. Joe1
  • Score: 22

9:37am Thu 15 May 14

Oxon21 says...

From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense.

That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season.

Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up.
From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense. That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season. Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up. Oxon21
  • Score: 34

9:54am Thu 15 May 14

GRB says...

Oxon21 wrote:
From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense.

That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season.

Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up.
So nice to read some sensible well thought out comments for a change!

We're in a tight situation financially (like most FL clubs) and paying players off is not something we can really afford. Lets not forget that the bulk of the squad that remains got us to the top of the league last season and we were hard to beat. Get some exciting additions in during the summer. Draw a line under last season and most importantly GET SOME CONFIDENCE BACK. It's not all doom and gloom but the fans need to stay on side or we've had it before the season has started!
[quote][p][bold]Oxon21[/bold] wrote: From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense. That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season. Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up.[/p][/quote]So nice to read some sensible well thought out comments for a change! We're in a tight situation financially (like most FL clubs) and paying players off is not something we can really afford. Lets not forget that the bulk of the squad that remains got us to the top of the league last season and we were hard to beat. Get some exciting additions in during the summer. Draw a line under last season and most importantly GET SOME CONFIDENCE BACK. It's not all doom and gloom but the fans need to stay on side or we've had it before the season has started! GRB
  • Score: 30

11:10am Thu 15 May 14

Roy Burton's shorts says...

Waddock’s previous comments (“sweeping changes”) were clearly premature and have made him look rather foolish.

With so little of the squad changing we are about to find out just how good a coach he really is. Our present squad has been drilled with CW’s cautious ‘percentages’ style of football. Can Waddock change our system? It happens often enough in the higher leagues (e.g. Mark Hughes at Stoke). But can Waddock deliver his vision of entertaining football with L2 players?

Things will be so much better if Waddock can bring in one or more of the following;
- a good, young strike partner for Constable, preferably someone with pace
- a bossing midfielder who can either make a telling pass or run with the ball. This season we’ve had a negligible amount of play in the key area just in front of the opponents back line.
- failing the above, an attacking wide player(s) who can get behind and put decent balls in
- a reliable replacement for Hunt, and Newey too if he doesn’t re-sign.
Waddock’s previous comments (“sweeping changes”) were clearly premature and have made him look rather foolish. With so little of the squad changing we are about to find out just how good a coach he really is. Our present squad has been drilled with CW’s cautious ‘percentages’ style of football. Can Waddock change our system? It happens often enough in the higher leagues (e.g. Mark Hughes at Stoke). But can Waddock deliver his vision of entertaining football with L2 players? Things will be so much better if Waddock can bring in one or more of the following; - a good, young strike partner for Constable, preferably someone with pace - a bossing midfielder who can either make a telling pass or run with the ball. This season we’ve had a negligible amount of play in the key area just in front of the opponents back line. - failing the above, an attacking wide player(s) who can get behind and put decent balls in - a reliable replacement for Hunt, and Newey too if he doesn’t re-sign. Roy Burton's shorts
  • Score: 10

11:15am Thu 15 May 14

London_Ox says...

I think rather than just keeping players who are no longer going to be in the clubs plans moving forward they should be loaned out rather than just bench warm. I'm confident that teams will lower budgets in this division and ones in the conference prem would take a fair few of our undesirables off us.
I think rather than just keeping players who are no longer going to be in the clubs plans moving forward they should be loaned out rather than just bench warm. I'm confident that teams will lower budgets in this division and ones in the conference prem would take a fair few of our undesirables off us. London_Ox
  • Score: 15

4:01pm Thu 15 May 14

oldun says...

dovepe wrote:
Mullins should be Captain
Mullins must be captain
[quote][p][bold]dovepe[/bold] wrote: Mullins should be Captain[/p][/quote]Mullins must be captain oldun
  • Score: 10

4:36pm Thu 15 May 14

Oxokuba says...

So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again. Oxokuba
  • Score: 9

4:53pm Thu 15 May 14

oldun says...

Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing
[quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing oldun
  • Score: 3

6:11pm Thu 15 May 14

deedee444 says...

Wright continuing as captain is ridiculous ,Mullins should be captain
Wright continuing as captain is ridiculous ,Mullins should be captain deedee444
  • Score: 9

6:50pm Thu 15 May 14

Richard Wickson says...

Joe1 wrote:
Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis.
Hear hear, sounds like he's been told he has no money in the kitty. Just about what most of us astute fans expected. The club is now an absolute joke, Waddock talked big but now has to back down and do what he's told by Lenagan. Ticket sales will sadly bomb as next season looks to be a disaster long before it begins.
[quote][p][bold]Joe1[/bold] wrote: Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis.[/p][/quote]Hear hear, sounds like he's been told he has no money in the kitty. Just about what most of us astute fans expected. The club is now an absolute joke, Waddock talked big but now has to back down and do what he's told by Lenagan. Ticket sales will sadly bomb as next season looks to be a disaster long before it begins. Richard Wickson
  • Score: 2

8:31pm Thu 15 May 14

London_Ox says...

Do you know what people?!? This club is going no where under the current regime.. After this seasons debacle when there should of been pretty much a complete clear out.. It's as you were for next season and im not holding out up that we will bring in anybody of real quality or calibre to take us up...

I am totally void of any faith and confidence for next season which I fear will be a struggle and we will be languishing in the lower echelons of the division..

MR IL, thanks for the investment and support in recent years but please put the club up for sale and sell to somebody who has the resources and desire to take this club forward like the loyal supporters deserve. I don't want to be seeing Championship football in 15-20 years.. I want to be seeing it in the next 3-4 years..
Do you know what people?!? This club is going no where under the current regime.. After this seasons debacle when there should of been pretty much a complete clear out.. It's as you were for next season and im not holding out up that we will bring in anybody of real quality or calibre to take us up... I am totally void of any faith and confidence for next season which I fear will be a struggle and we will be languishing in the lower echelons of the division.. MR IL, thanks for the investment and support in recent years but please put the club up for sale and sell to somebody who has the resources and desire to take this club forward like the loyal supporters deserve. I don't want to be seeing Championship football in 15-20 years.. I want to be seeing it in the next 3-4 years.. London_Ox
  • Score: 12

8:52pm Thu 15 May 14

Richard Wickson says...

GRB wrote:
Oxon21 wrote:
From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense.

That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season.

Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up.
So nice to read some sensible well thought out comments for a change!

We're in a tight situation financially (like most FL clubs) and paying players off is not something we can really afford. Lets not forget that the bulk of the squad that remains got us to the top of the league last season and we were hard to beat. Get some exciting additions in during the summer. Draw a line under last season and most importantly GET SOME CONFIDENCE BACK. It's not all doom and gloom but the fans need to stay on side or we've had it before the season has started!
You both talk a lot of sense but sadly the club has made a mockery of what looked to be a very promising season. Wilder leaving as he did certainly didn't help but the writing was on the wall the moment he insisted on being allowed to talk with Portsmouth. The Chairmans indecision in appointing his successor didn't help, leaving Lewis in charge for far too long was a mistake, he's OU thru and thru but not a manager and both him and Melville were part of the reason we played so defensively under Wilder. Sadly Waddocks comments about the squad when he first came in didn't help the Teams confidence or make for harmony between manager and players. He then said that players were playing for their futures then keeps all but a few because the Chairman obviously won't waste money which is totally sensible, obviously Waddock should have consulted IL before making grand statements. He's now made himself look quite silly in a lot of fans eyes and all of what's happened doesn't bode well for next season. Like most I genuinely hope things improve and as you both say we do have some good young players coming through. The worry here for me is that over the past many seasons we have had some decent players who haven't developed here but gone elsewhere to do so much better which shows to me at least, that the coaching and man ageing hasn't been good enough. On what I have seen of Waddock so far I don't think he has what it takes to improve the present squad but have to give him time to prove me and many others wrong. Only time will tell and probably more than one season before we really start to move forward. Sadly for many fans that could be too long!
[quote][p][bold]GRB[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxon21[/bold] wrote: From a business view, the club is losing money, therefore to pay someone's contract off to get rid of them, and then having to pay a signing on fee plus wages doesn't make any sense. That would increase our losses and thus reduce playing budgets further. With the players released freeing up space, and somecdecent younger players comming through, I believe we can put a good squad together. We just need to believe in the youngsters as tgey did very well last season. Waddock looks like he may get some of his staff in the door, with melville and lord leaving. This will also freshen things up.[/p][/quote]So nice to read some sensible well thought out comments for a change! We're in a tight situation financially (like most FL clubs) and paying players off is not something we can really afford. Lets not forget that the bulk of the squad that remains got us to the top of the league last season and we were hard to beat. Get some exciting additions in during the summer. Draw a line under last season and most importantly GET SOME CONFIDENCE BACK. It's not all doom and gloom but the fans need to stay on side or we've had it before the season has started![/p][/quote]You both talk a lot of sense but sadly the club has made a mockery of what looked to be a very promising season. Wilder leaving as he did certainly didn't help but the writing was on the wall the moment he insisted on being allowed to talk with Portsmouth. The Chairmans indecision in appointing his successor didn't help, leaving Lewis in charge for far too long was a mistake, he's OU thru and thru but not a manager and both him and Melville were part of the reason we played so defensively under Wilder. Sadly Waddocks comments about the squad when he first came in didn't help the Teams confidence or make for harmony between manager and players. He then said that players were playing for their futures then keeps all but a few because the Chairman obviously won't waste money which is totally sensible, obviously Waddock should have consulted IL before making grand statements. He's now made himself look quite silly in a lot of fans eyes and all of what's happened doesn't bode well for next season. Like most I genuinely hope things improve and as you both say we do have some good young players coming through. The worry here for me is that over the past many seasons we have had some decent players who haven't developed here but gone elsewhere to do so much better which shows to me at least, that the coaching and man ageing hasn't been good enough. On what I have seen of Waddock so far I don't think he has what it takes to improve the present squad but have to give him time to prove me and many others wrong. Only time will tell and probably more than one season before we really start to move forward. Sadly for many fans that could be too long! Richard Wickson
  • Score: 9

9:33pm Thu 15 May 14

Doctor69 says...

Worrying times for the yellows. The core of players from last season is going to do little to boost morale. It really looks like we are in trouble financially. We have to do something about the stadium as it's a noose around our necks......
Worrying times for the yellows. The core of players from last season is going to do little to boost morale. It really looks like we are in trouble financially. We have to do something about the stadium as it's a noose around our necks...... Doctor69
  • Score: 10

1:25pm Fri 16 May 14

Taff Ewe says...

Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress.

There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league.

How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it.

Only when we go into reverse do we need major change.
Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress. There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league. How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it. Only when we go into reverse do we need major change. Taff Ewe
  • Score: 2

3:24pm Fri 16 May 14

oldun says...

Taff Ewe wrote:
Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress.

There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league.

How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it.

Only when we go into reverse do we need major change.
Improving - what?? Just 3 points more than a club in the bottom half . Only 12 points more than relegated Rovers . Worst record in the division over the Waddock period, Thanks for the joke
[quote][p][bold]Taff Ewe[/bold] wrote: Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress. There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league. How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it. Only when we go into reverse do we need major change.[/p][/quote]Improving - what?? Just 3 points more than a club in the bottom half . Only 12 points more than relegated Rovers . Worst record in the division over the Waddock period, Thanks for the joke oldun
  • Score: 2

4:44pm Fri 16 May 14

LondonOX says...

I'm seriously worried about Waddock being in charge. Terrible results and then topped with hollow words and empty threats to the under performers. I really hope he proves me wrong but I can't see promotion next season.
I'm seriously worried about Waddock being in charge. Terrible results and then topped with hollow words and empty threats to the under performers. I really hope he proves me wrong but I can't see promotion next season. LondonOX
  • Score: 3

4:47pm Fri 16 May 14

oldun says...

LondonOX wrote:
I'm seriously worried about Waddock being in charge. Terrible results and then topped with hollow words and empty threats to the under performers. I really hope he proves me wrong but I can't see promotion next season.
More like relegation - the form this shower showed over the closing few months. The facts are there
[quote][p][bold]LondonOX[/bold] wrote: I'm seriously worried about Waddock being in charge. Terrible results and then topped with hollow words and empty threats to the under performers. I really hope he proves me wrong but I can't see promotion next season.[/p][/quote]More like relegation - the form this shower showed over the closing few months. The facts are there oldun
  • Score: 3

6:49pm Fri 16 May 14

rsrpyellow says...

I am totally underwhelmed - and most posters are in agreement that we are likely to have problems next season. A combination of finances, lower season ticket sales, the bulk of squad retained. :(
I am totally underwhelmed - and most posters are in agreement that we are likely to have problems next season. A combination of finances, lower season ticket sales, the bulk of squad retained. :( rsrpyellow
  • Score: 4

7:09pm Fri 16 May 14

marathon2012 says...

IL's new lap dog i said this when they took him on , he's a yes man with no money to spend in the club and now no new players. iv watched oxford since we were at the Manor in the fantastic Maxwell days since then we have been a nearly club and we are heading down that road again for next season .I suppose we will wait until the week before the season to bring in players from lower divisions as all the good players will be snapped up .
IL's new lap dog i said this when they took him on , he's a yes man with no money to spend in the club and now no new players. iv watched oxford since we were at the Manor in the fantastic Maxwell days since then we have been a nearly club and we are heading down that road again for next season .I suppose we will wait until the week before the season to bring in players from lower divisions as all the good players will be snapped up . marathon2012
  • Score: 3

8:57pm Fri 16 May 14

Richard Wickson says...

Taff Ewe wrote:
Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress.

There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league.

How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it.

Only when we go into reverse do we need major change.
What you failed to mention is that Scunthorpe changed their manager and that made the difference. They then went on a 28 game unbeaten run. We at OU are delighted when our club win 3 on the bounce as it isn't something they regularly do. I am not saying we can't do similar but, and it's a huge but, the present squad and current manager don't inspire confidence that they could go on a long unbeaten run, we did well with the away run under Wilder but that evaporated after his vanishing act, we also saw some quite shocking home games during that time and hope as much as I do the club in general doesn't inspire confidence at present. I read a post on here that Lenagan needs to find a buyer, that won't be easy as we are not a natural draw to the wealthy would be football club buyers, Jim Smith was touting us round a few seasons back but all of that came to nothing, talking of the bald eagle we could do with some of his input as he at least has far better contacts than anybody else in the club at present, he's past his sell by date as a manager but has contacts within the game that may be beneficial to us if indeed we need or want a different owner, sadly as astute as IL is in business I think he has taken us as far as his millions allow him to, footballs a different business to most others and lower league clubs in the main make little or no profit so it's a no win situation for most owners and with the club being in Kassams pocket in terms of rent and contract we really are between a rock and a hard place.
[quote][p][bold]Taff Ewe[/bold] wrote: Let's bring some perspective here. Season on season we are improving. Maybe not by big enough leaps or qick enough, but it is progress. There is the core of a good squad here that has proved it is able to hold it's own in this league. How do you think the Scunthorpe fans felt about their squad during the first 3rd of the season? Probably exactly the same as we do right now, however that squad had no major overhauls but were clearly the best in the league and proved it. Only when we go into reverse do we need major change.[/p][/quote]What you failed to mention is that Scunthorpe changed their manager and that made the difference. They then went on a 28 game unbeaten run. We at OU are delighted when our club win 3 on the bounce as it isn't something they regularly do. I am not saying we can't do similar but, and it's a huge but, the present squad and current manager don't inspire confidence that they could go on a long unbeaten run, we did well with the away run under Wilder but that evaporated after his vanishing act, we also saw some quite shocking home games during that time and hope as much as I do the club in general doesn't inspire confidence at present. I read a post on here that Lenagan needs to find a buyer, that won't be easy as we are not a natural draw to the wealthy would be football club buyers, Jim Smith was touting us round a few seasons back but all of that came to nothing, talking of the bald eagle we could do with some of his input as he at least has far better contacts than anybody else in the club at present, he's past his sell by date as a manager but has contacts within the game that may be beneficial to us if indeed we need or want a different owner, sadly as astute as IL is in business I think he has taken us as far as his millions allow him to, footballs a different business to most others and lower league clubs in the main make little or no profit so it's a no win situation for most owners and with the club being in Kassams pocket in terms of rent and contract we really are between a rock and a hard place. Richard Wickson
  • Score: 1

8:24am Sat 17 May 14

EastIlsleyyellow says...

Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
oh be quite
[quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]oh be quite EastIlsleyyellow
  • Score: 2

8:27am Sat 17 May 14

EastIlsleyyellow says...

oldun wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing
why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing[/p][/quote]why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing EastIlsleyyellow
  • Score: 0

8:29am Sat 17 May 14

EastIlsleyyellow says...

Richard Wickson wrote:
Joe1 wrote:
Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis.
Hear hear, sounds like he's been told he has no money in the kitty. Just about what most of us astute fans expected. The club is now an absolute joke, Waddock talked big but now has to back down and do what he's told by Lenagan. Ticket sales will sadly bomb as next season looks to be a disaster long before it begins.
jumping the gun as always mr know it all
[quote][p][bold]Richard Wickson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Joe1[/bold] wrote: Sounds very much like he is under instructions NOT to have pay players to leave, regardless of how poor they are. All about saving money. We badly need to sign some decent players. It does not bode well , unless there is another turn around. I can't see too many fans returning on this basis.[/p][/quote]Hear hear, sounds like he's been told he has no money in the kitty. Just about what most of us astute fans expected. The club is now an absolute joke, Waddock talked big but now has to back down and do what he's told by Lenagan. Ticket sales will sadly bomb as next season looks to be a disaster long before it begins.[/p][/quote]jumping the gun as always mr know it all EastIlsleyyellow
  • Score: 0

8:32am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

EastIlsleyyellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing
why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing
Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit?
[quote][p][bold]EastIlsleyyellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing[/p][/quote]why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing[/p][/quote]Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit? oldun
  • Score: 0

8:35am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad
Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad oldun
  • Score: 1

8:41am Sat 17 May 14

MiddleBartonYellow says...

oldun wrote:
Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad
An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad[/p][/quote]An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it. MiddleBartonYellow
  • Score: 2

9:01am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

MiddleBartonYellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad
An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.
Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)?
[quote][p][bold]MiddleBartonYellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad[/p][/quote]An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.[/p][/quote]Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)? oldun
  • Score: 0

9:23am Sat 17 May 14

EastIlsleyyellow says...

oldun wrote:
EastIlsleyyellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing
why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing
Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit?
To state the obvious, most normal fans would prefer to pay and watch a winning and attractive team rather than a bunch of new recruits. A team full of new names will give you something to speculate about for a couple of months (a quick fix for the fickle), but as the age old excuses of 'we need time to gel' and 'next season we will be able to challenge', I'm sure you lot will be moaning again.
What we do have is a base for a bloody good team that with with the right additions could achieve what we all want. The real question is how good will our manager be at getting the most out if them, the players finding confidence and expressing themselves throughout the whole season, the fans pulling together and realising over expectancy leads to negativity at small clubs. Get behind the tam and enjoy before it's too late!
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastIlsleyyellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing[/p][/quote]why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing[/p][/quote]Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit?[/p][/quote]To state the obvious, most normal fans would prefer to pay and watch a winning and attractive team rather than a bunch of new recruits. A team full of new names will give you something to speculate about for a couple of months (a quick fix for the fickle), but as the age old excuses of 'we need time to gel' and 'next season we will be able to challenge', I'm sure you lot will be moaning again. What we do have is a base for a bloody good team that with with the right additions could achieve what we all want. The real question is how good will our manager be at getting the most out if them, the players finding confidence and expressing themselves throughout the whole season, the fans pulling together and realising over expectancy leads to negativity at small clubs. Get behind the tam and enjoy before it's too late! EastIlsleyyellow
  • Score: 5

9:55am Sat 17 May 14

MiddleBartonYellow says...

oldun wrote:
MiddleBartonYellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad
An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.
Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)?
You are right there will probably be around 10 clubs that will be stronger than us next season because they will have bigger budgets. I believe though that the core of the team is still strong if they are all fit and it will all be down to the players that Waddock brings in. Of coarse if he completely fails then we can then all give him stick but I am going to give him a chance to bring his own players in first. Gates have fallen obviously because it's been garbage but if he delivers a team that wins scores a few goals and is more entertaining then more people will go. I try to be positive but I admit after the season we have had it's been difficult.
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleBartonYellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad[/p][/quote]An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.[/p][/quote]Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)?[/p][/quote]You are right there will probably be around 10 clubs that will be stronger than us next season because they will have bigger budgets. I believe though that the core of the team is still strong if they are all fit and it will all be down to the players that Waddock brings in. Of coarse if he completely fails then we can then all give him stick but I am going to give him a chance to bring his own players in first. Gates have fallen obviously because it's been garbage but if he delivers a team that wins scores a few goals and is more entertaining then more people will go. I try to be positive but I admit after the season we have had it's been difficult. MiddleBartonYellow
  • Score: 0

10:13am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

MiddleBartonYellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
MiddleBartonYellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad
An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.
Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)?
You are right there will probably be around 10 clubs that will be stronger than us next season because they will have bigger budgets. I believe though that the core of the team is still strong if they are all fit and it will all be down to the players that Waddock brings in. Of coarse if he completely fails then we can then all give him stick but I am going to give him a chance to bring his own players in first. Gates have fallen obviously because it's been garbage but if he delivers a team that wins scores a few goals and is more entertaining then more people will go. I try to be positive but I admit after the season we have had it's been difficult.
Yep - those players he brings in will be a vital factor .Unless we sign three of four who are as good as our best two - Ryan and Mullins , then we will be getting no more than the paltry 62 points we got tis year - maybe much fewer. Yep we did end 8th - big deal - we should have ended higher . This jury is out on Gary - but he has started badly both with results and in who he has retained.
[quote][p][bold]MiddleBartonYellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]MiddleBartonYellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Hard core of 4000 will not be joined by the 3000 or so which we had two to three years ago unless we vastly strengthen this awful squad[/p][/quote]An awful squad that finished 8th. Don't really add up does it.[/p][/quote]Of course it does - (A) look at points gained i a very mediocre division. (B) Three points fewer and we would have been level with a club which ended in the bottom half. (C) just13 points fewer and we would have been relegated.!! (D) So many points fewer than the third placed team. Facts !! Now for opinions - (1) Luton will be much stronger than we are (and so will be a least two other clubs) . (2) this squad (unless massively strengthened) will not end in the top half (3) our season ticket sales will plummet (4) Gary won't have been anywhere near the best of the 70 plus . You can't argue with the facts - what are your views o each of m 4 quoted opinions (1) to (4)?[/p][/quote]You are right there will probably be around 10 clubs that will be stronger than us next season because they will have bigger budgets. I believe though that the core of the team is still strong if they are all fit and it will all be down to the players that Waddock brings in. Of coarse if he completely fails then we can then all give him stick but I am going to give him a chance to bring his own players in first. Gates have fallen obviously because it's been garbage but if he delivers a team that wins scores a few goals and is more entertaining then more people will go. I try to be positive but I admit after the season we have had it's been difficult.[/p][/quote]Yep - those players he brings in will be a vital factor .Unless we sign three of four who are as good as our best two - Ryan and Mullins , then we will be getting no more than the paltry 62 points we got tis year - maybe much fewer. Yep we did end 8th - big deal - we should have ended higher . This jury is out on Gary - but he has started badly both with results and in who he has retained. oldun
  • Score: 0

10:17am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

EastIlsleyyellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
EastIlsleyyellow wrote:
oldun wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing
why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing
Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit?
To state the obvious, most normal fans would prefer to pay and watch a winning and attractive team rather than a bunch of new recruits. A team full of new names will give you something to speculate about for a couple of months (a quick fix for the fickle), but as the age old excuses of 'we need time to gel' and 'next season we will be able to challenge', I'm sure you lot will be moaning again.
What we do have is a base for a bloody good team that with with the right additions could achieve what we all want. The real question is how good will our manager be at getting the most out if them, the players finding confidence and expressing themselves throughout the whole season, the fans pulling together and realising over expectancy leads to negativity at small clubs. Get behind the tam and enjoy before it's too late!
Few more than 4000 will want to watch the current squad. It will not be a tem full of new names will it? It will be substantially the strugglers of the second half of last season - relegation form post Xmas
[quote][p][bold]EastIlsleyyellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]EastIlsleyyellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]Unless we sign three or four players who are better than anybody we have (bar maybe Ryan and Mullins) then season ticket sales will be appalling. More likely to be relegated tan promoted - unless those 4 good players turn up before the season starts . Depressing[/p][/quote]why are you always so concerned about weighing up signings against season ticket sales? Fans will watch attractive winning football whoever playing[/p][/quote]Why might that increase gates? I love being asked questions which are easy to answer. It is because we won't be playing ETHER attractive OR winning football without those signings- simple innit?[/p][/quote]To state the obvious, most normal fans would prefer to pay and watch a winning and attractive team rather than a bunch of new recruits. A team full of new names will give you something to speculate about for a couple of months (a quick fix for the fickle), but as the age old excuses of 'we need time to gel' and 'next season we will be able to challenge', I'm sure you lot will be moaning again. What we do have is a base for a bloody good team that with with the right additions could achieve what we all want. The real question is how good will our manager be at getting the most out if them, the players finding confidence and expressing themselves throughout the whole season, the fans pulling together and realising over expectancy leads to negativity at small clubs. Get behind the tam and enjoy before it's too late![/p][/quote]Few more than 4000 will want to watch the current squad. It will not be a tem full of new names will it? It will be substantially the strugglers of the second half of last season - relegation form post Xmas oldun
  • Score: 0

10:21am Sat 17 May 14

hairydean says...

Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had.
so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said
Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had. so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said hairydean
  • Score: -1

10:24am Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

hairydean wrote:
Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had.
so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said
IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying
[quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had. so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said[/p][/quote]IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying oldun
  • Score: 0

10:50am Sat 17 May 14

Oxokuba says...

EastIlsleyyellow wrote:
Oxokuba wrote:
So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.
oh be quite
Great contribution to the debate there - I'm off to see how one keeps quite.
[quote][p][bold]EastIlsleyyellow[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Oxokuba[/bold] wrote: So the big clear out isn't going to happen? And we're left with the dross that Wilder Signed? Not the best bit of marketing for early season ticket sales. I understand not paying off contracts but surely listing them on transfer market may recoup some much needed revenue? It's going to be a long summer. Can't imagine too many new players coming in if we have no money to invest. Ho hum here we go again.[/p][/quote]oh be quite[/p][/quote]Great contribution to the debate there - I'm off to see how one keeps quite. Oxokuba
  • Score: 0

11:57am Sat 17 May 14

hairydean says...

oldun wrote:
hairydean wrote:
Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had.
so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said
IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying
I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had. so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said[/p][/quote]IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top hairydean
  • Score: 0

11:57am Sat 17 May 14

hairydean says...

oldun wrote:
hairydean wrote:
Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had.
so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said
IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying
I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had. so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said[/p][/quote]IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top hairydean
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12:44pm Sat 17 May 14

oldun says...

hairydean wrote:
oldun wrote:
hairydean wrote:
Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had.
so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said
IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying
I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top
"for once" - thank you - I must have never been as out of step with someone for years - but no doubt many other United fans don't like my "we are still underachieving massively" mantra. Many, many of them of this site seem to think that three or four summer singings by Mr W will take us up to the heady heights of the third tier (lower sections of it) - back to the Mick Brown (manager) type days (oh relatively happy days)
[quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]hairydean[/bold] wrote: Very concerned about the fact Williams and wroe wont be playing for us next season as they were very good players for us. Better than players we had. so unless we buy or get players as good or better than them two our team will be worse than last year I feel waddock had a disastrous start with us the squad is now worse so there for than last season so I hope and pray iL has got guts to get rid if the season starts as it ended last season if not got at least 75% of points available in first 6 games then he should be sacked 3points from last 24 available. From last season wasn't good enough had most off the team to pick from which wasn't the case over the season before he came. I gave him respect and a chance before criticize him he deserves that right but the team couldnt play together under home so his team strategy didnt work we would have been in the play offs at least if he had made a difference definitely not good enough young man as cloughie would have said[/p][/quote]IL's choice - from so many ! Worrying[/p][/quote]I totally agree with you for once and new ownership should be found asap I feel that we were in profit a few years ago Under him in conference but failed to realise that money needs to be spent in this league to get out off it if your not one off the best teams In the division i have a friend off wilder and he told him that he couldnt buy players he wanted to iL refused to back him financially as a result the team went stale and injuries caused the team to be less equipped for the league wasnt able to improve the squad so the result was less gates and revenue. Consider this ok 20 games off the 7230 gates we had two seasons ago to the 4300 this season probably 3000x £20 a game gates and revenue = £600000 + money from promotion could be into £1mill so £800000 loss is down to miss management from the top[/p][/quote]"for once" - thank you - I must have never been as out of step with someone for years - but no doubt many other United fans don't like my "we are still underachieving massively" mantra. Many, many of them of this site seem to think that three or four summer singings by Mr W will take us up to the heady heights of the third tier (lower sections of it) - back to the Mick Brown (manager) type days (oh relatively happy days) oldun
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1:11pm Sat 17 May 14

BigCrompy says...

Just a wee reminder to the forgetful and/or patronising Oxford Mail sports writing staff that what was so 'desperately disappointing' about the 2013-4 season was not the club dropping out of the playoff places (largely irrelevant, and a lottery at best) but the club dropping out of the top 3 places that they comfortably occupied for the first 3-4 months of the season. I do so wish they would remember.

I largely agree with Old 'Un and his four observations, in particular that LooTown will fly past us, surely Pompey and Plymuff can't be as bad again, and heaven forfend, the Cobblers will rise. I'm less worried about the Division 3 relegation fodder and can't see Shrewsbury, Stevenage and Carlisle being much cop, so I'm expect a lower mid-table finish unless Waddock makes 3-4 inspired signings.

I would contend that the way Jon Meades was being spoken of makes him almost a new marquee acquisition, and I for one think a full season from Whing will be a boon.

Although I am not presently positive about the new season, I hope there are enough parallels with 94-5 and 82-3 and that history threepeats itself. Question is - who's going to be Trevor Hebberd..?
Just a wee reminder to the forgetful and/or patronising Oxford Mail sports writing staff that what was so 'desperately disappointing' about the 2013-4 season was not the club dropping out of the playoff places (largely irrelevant, and a lottery at best) but the club dropping out of the top 3 places that they comfortably occupied for the first 3-4 months of the season. I do so wish they would remember. I largely agree with Old 'Un and his four observations, in particular that LooTown will fly past us, surely Pompey and Plymuff can't be as bad again, and heaven forfend, the Cobblers will rise. I'm less worried about the Division 3 relegation fodder and can't see Shrewsbury, Stevenage and Carlisle being much cop, so I'm expect a lower mid-table finish unless Waddock makes 3-4 inspired signings. I would contend that the way Jon Meades was being spoken of makes him almost a new marquee acquisition, and I for one think a full season from Whing will be a boon. Although I am not presently positive about the new season, I hope there are enough parallels with 94-5 and 82-3 and that history threepeats itself. Question is - who's going to be Trevor Hebberd..? BigCrompy
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8:05pm Sat 17 May 14

Bis4badger says...

Whats the news on Beano and Newey, I thought they had till the end of the week to decide, or have we a new style of calender at Grenoble road?
Whats the news on Beano and Newey, I thought they had till the end of the week to decide, or have we a new style of calender at Grenoble road? Bis4badger
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