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Busmen strike vote expected


THE result of a ballot of hundreds of Oxford Bus Company drivers, engineers and office staff over strike action is expected to be revealed tomorrow.

About 400 members of the union Unite received ballot papers asking if they would be prepared to strike following an ongoing dispute over pay and conditions.

The deadline for the two-week postal vote is reached tonight and the ballots are expected to be counted by the Electoral Reform Services tomorrow.

All union members were asked if they wanted to take strike action, or industrial action short of a strike, or neither.

Passenger groups fear any strike action by one of the city’s two biggest bus companies, which carries more than 46,000 passengers a day, would bring gridlock to the city.

Unite’s regional industrial organiser Ian Methven said he would attempt to hold a meeting with the firm’s management to see if a new pay offer could be brokered, regardless of the outcome of the ballot.

He said: “Our intention isn’t to disrupt or inconvenience the general public. Even if there is a vote for industrial action we’ll be trying hard to resolve it before we take action.”

Mr Methven said other forms of industrial action could be considered, including staff refusing to work overtime or working to rule.

Two months ago, more than 80 per cent of union members rejected a 1.6 per cent pay rise offer from the company and said they were prepared to strike to settle the dispute.

Last month, they rejected a lower pay offer of 1.4 per cent which would have seen the company remove controversial conditions from the first offer, including reducing workers’ minimum daily working hours.

But some contentious measures, such as introducing a lower pay band for new drivers, remained.

Hugh Jaeger, Oxford’s representative for Bus Users UK, said: “A strike would bring chaos to Oxford.

“Half the people who come into Oxford come by bus and parts of the city are at a standstill anyway.

“It would only take a few more cars on the road to make sure nothing moves.

“I’d be surprised if any strike action lasted for long – but to see a job where drivers are relatively happy slipping into conflict is very sad.”

Oxford Bus Company runs 21 routes from the city and popular services to London, Heathrow, and Gatwick airports, Didcot and Abingdon.

One driver, who asked not to be named, said staff would reluctantly pursue industrial action.

He said: “A lot of drivers are ex-army, ex-navy or ex-airforce and come from occupations that never strike, but there’s a feeling that we have got no choice.”

Oxford Bus Company spokesman Phil Ashworth said: “We don’t think it’s appropriate to make any comment at the present time.”


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Whitto, Oxford says...
10:15pm Mon 25 Jan 10

Its a pity your picture of Hugh is in front of a Stagecoach bus. I'm surprised they haven't been in touch yet!

More sloppy work from the OM......

Petre Mcvey, Barton says...
3:47am Tue 26 Jan 10

1.4%. Not only is that an insult, it is effectively a pay cut. Especially seeing that in 2009 The group posted record profits of £66.6 million, with revenue growth in all 6 of its brands, of which The Oxford Bus Company is one. So while the bosses get richer, the people who made the profits for them get poorer. Strike, Strike, Strike.

LadyPenelope, West Oxon says...
8:12am Tue 26 Jan 10

1.4% is a lot more than other people got this year...

BartSimpson, Springfield says...
10:20am Tue 26 Jan 10

1.4% is also a lot less than what other people got. Your logic is insane Ladypenelope.

LadyPenelope, West Oxon says...
11:03am Tue 26 Jan 10

BartSimpson wrote:
1.4% is also a lot less than what other people got. Your logic is insane Ladypenelope.
Well I don't know anyone who got over 1.5% pay rise this year, so there's my logic. simples. If you got over that, then lucky you.

jf, Oxfordshire says...
11:30am Tue 26 Jan 10

LadyPenelope wrote:
BartSimpson wrote:
1.4% is also a lot less than what other people got. Your logic is insane Ladypenelope.
Well I don't know anyone who got over 1.5% pay rise this year, so there's my logic. simples. If you got over that, then lucky you.
I agree and it is certainly not an insane figure.I think Lady Penelope you meant to say 1.4% is a lot more than most.

My husband never got one at all and may have to reduce hours into the bargain!

These Bus Drivers should be grateful they even have a job!

BartSimpson, Springfield says...
11:54am Tue 26 Jan 10

Here we go again, excuses to keep wages down, "Should be grateful they even have a job"maybe they should get down on their hands and knees and lick the bosses boots thanking them. Because someone else has not got a rise does not mean everyone should not.

LadyPenelope, West Oxon says...
12:31pm Tue 26 Jan 10

BartSimpson wrote:
Here we go again, excuses to keep wages down, "Should be grateful they even have a job"maybe they should get down on their hands and knees and lick the bosses boots thanking them. Because someone else has not got a rise does not mean everyone should not.
It's not about keeping wages down. Personally I would take a pay cut if it prevented someone losing their job, or helped keep a business going.
What if the bus company want to put some money aside for the anticipated HUGE price hike in fuel? What if they want to keep ticket prices the same, so need some financial reserves to take this hit? It's a BUSINESS, and they can choose to spend their profit on whatever they like. If you're not happy with a 1.4% rise, then find a job elsewhere. It actually implies that most workers aren't keen to strike.

Ellie the Bruce, Oxford says...
1:31pm Tue 26 Jan 10

I fail to see the relevance of Mr Jaeger's comment regarding some of the bus drivers being ex forces and them never striking; it's because they aren't allowed to. However, as a member of the public who relies on the bus service in and around Oxford, I can't agree with any strike because ultimately it's the public who will suffer and not the bus company who have just posted record profits.

BartSimpson, Springfield says...
2:54pm Tue 26 Jan 10

so Ellie, it would be alright for you to strike, but not the bus drivers because it might inconvience you! Selfiish attitude. It is a right for them to strike, if you don't like it get on your bike.

EB, Oxford says...
8:24pm Tue 26 Jan 10

"...would bring gridlock to the city."

No it won't. It'll make people realise they can cycle in and save a load of cash AND time.

Strike for as long as they like. Oxford with half as many buses will be a very good place.

Petre Mcvey, Barton says...
3:32am Wed 27 Jan 10

Lady penelope. Do you get somebody else to write your posts because the ability to read has obviously eluded you. I know I am wasting my time here with you, but I will try again. The parent of O.B.C. Posted record profits, O.B.C. revenue also grew, are you still with me. In plain simple English this means that in spite of the recession the O.B.C Took more money, and made even more profit out of that money, but the bosses want to put all of that profit in their own pockets and not reward the people who made them that money. So it is only right and proper that the people who are being insulted should stop making money for the bad people, until the bad people give the people that make the money a fair pay rise. If not the nice people will stop working and then the bad people will not make any money as they cannot do the job of the nice people, in the end the bad people will start crying and give the nice people a fair days pay for a fair days work, as you put it SIMPLES. P.S. As well as being a Misandrist, it seems you also hate the Working Class as well, do you have ANY redeeming features?

Petre Mcvey, Barton says...
6:03am Wed 27 Jan 10

Jf. The above goes for you as well. If you husband will let you out. I suggest night classes, to catch up on the education that you missed out on first time around.

jf, Oxfordshire says...
7:40am Wed 27 Jan 10

Petre Mcvey wrote:
Jf. The above goes for you as well. If you husband will let you out. I suggest night classes, to catch up on the education that you missed out on first time around.
What a pathetic comment and very rude.

What gives you the right to personally attack me?I can see grammar and puntuation are a problem for you too?!

I quote-"If you husband will let you out."

I think the word you mean is" your" not "you".There is no need to put a full stop there as you hadn't finished your sentence properly either.

You know nothing about me. Just because I write a commnet doesn't mean I don't go out and earn myself.
I am working most days and evenings to make ends meet and having to care for a disabled child.

Just because someone doesn't agree with you-why do you always insist on making it personal?
The only thing I can think of is that you can't have nothing else to do?!

Very sad.Almost feel sorry for you.

locodogz, bicester says...
11:21am Wed 27 Jan 10

jf wrote:
Petre Mcvey wrote: Jf. The above goes for you as well. If you husband will let you out. I suggest night classes, to catch up on the education that you missed out on first time around.
What a pathetic comment and very rude. What gives you the right to personally attack me?I can see grammar and puntuation are a problem for you too?! I quote-"If you husband will let you out." I think the word you mean is" your" not "you".There is no need to put a full stop there as you hadn't finished your sentence properly either. You know nothing about me. Just because I write a commnet doesn't mean I don't go out and earn myself. I am working most days and evenings to make ends meet and having to care for a disabled child. Just because someone doesn't agree with you-why do you always insist on making it personal? The only thing I can think of is that you can't have nothing else to do?! Very sad.Almost feel sorry for you.
Don't rise to it - jf! Notice our Petre must be feeling very proud of his new long word - he's used it twice today with an inappropriate capital 'm' both times - it's not a proper noun, you silly boy - and somewhat ironic coming from a blatant misogynist....

jf, Oxfordshire says...
1:06pm Wed 27 Jan 10

Thank you locodog!

I just don't understand why people like him have to get so personal.

Petre Mcvey, Barton says...
7:41pm Wed 27 Jan 10

Jf it is because of your uncaring attitude towards your fellow workers. They should be grateful to have a job. I would guess had you been alive a couple of hundred years ago, you would have made that comment about the Slaves as well.

jf, Oxfordshire says...
9:31pm Wed 27 Jan 10

Petre Mcvey wrote:
Jf it is because of your uncaring attitude towards your fellow workers. They should be grateful to have a job. I would guess had you been alive a couple of hundred years ago, you would have made that comment about the Slaves as well.
What a pathetic response? Where did this come from?

Petre,as I said-I almost feel sorry for you.Except-you have gone off the mark yet again.

I do feel sorry for workers pay and conditions.But considering the present climate-it is right to be grateful.

Yor comments previously to this poked at my Grammar.
Yours were not much better.

I agree with locodogz-if you were not such a blatant misogynis-you would try and attack his comments rather than mine.

I rest my case poor,poor man.

Petre Mcvey, Barton says...
3:12am Thu 28 Jan 10

Jf. There is no point in pulling up PocoLoco from Bicester. As all he ever does is attack regular contributers, and when they respond, report them and get their accounts suspended. So best to treat him as you do an attention seeking child. Ignore him. Anyway off skiing with the kids in a few hours time for a week, but am taking the lap-top so might be able to keep in touch. P.S. It is incredible how much you save by going now, and not in the Half Term holiday, the kids love it as well as they get 2 holidays.

LadyPenelope, West Oxon says...
8:18am Thu 28 Jan 10

Petre, as you seem fond of looking up words in the dictionary, then how about looking up "business"? A business makes money for its owners - it's up to them if they want to share the profit with the workers or not. If they choose not to, then workers should either lump it, or look for a better employer who respects them more. Striking is NOT the answer.

If workers all got jobs elsewhere, then eventually the company would realise that they would have to pay staff more and treat them better if they wanted to keep them.

locodogz, bicester says...
6:11pm Thu 28 Jan 10

Petre Mcvey wrote:
Jf. There is no point in pulling up PocoLoco from Bicester. As all he ever does is attack regular contributers, and when they respond, report them and get their accounts suspended. So best to treat him as you do an attention seeking child. Ignore him. Anyway off skiing with the kids in a few hours time for a week, but am taking the lap-top so might be able to keep in touch. P.S. It is incredible how much you save by going now, and not in the Half Term holiday, the kids love it as well as they get 2 holidays.
Cowardly, Petre, cowardly....I've regularly enjoyed some lively banter with contributors here but, as I'd hope that Gollum, Grundon and a few others could testify to, have never 'reported' anyone - frankly it wouldn't occur to me as I’ve never felt the need to – lively banter is what makes this site worthwhile and IMHO the posters listed above (along with a few others – Lord Turville(?!?) – sorry if I’ve got that wrong etc) whilst holding differing views to mine are capable of articulate arguments to support them.

Given that you bring it up it would seem fairly pointless anyway given that a variation on a posting name gets anyone straight back in?

Anyway, enjoy your skiing and - not that you'd ever dream of ducking a question – remind us again - why the capital 'm'?

Oh and as for the 'kids out of school' tease....you really are a 'webel' aren't you.......

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