Boffins predict doomsday climate change scenario (From Oxford Mail)

Its not a question of IF, rather WHEN. The population of the world has pretty much trebled in the last 50 years alone. There's no panic scenario - its just common sense that that as population grows, resources become more scarce and there is more competition for those resources.
Its already happening and has been for quite some time. War, famine, climatic change and disease act as natural feedback mechanisms to limit the continued population growth. We don't desire such things, they're not good, but the do happen.
If the population continues to grow, then more bad things will happen to balence out that growth. It may be that climate change coupled with a decline in fossil fuels with remove our ability to mass produce food, which in turn will have a drastic effect on human population.
We think of Apocalyptic events as happening suddenly and catastrophically. We notice much less the patterns that occur over what to us is a long period of time.

We had a 10C increase in temperature this summer.Moved from Oxford to Rhodes Greece. No adverse effects so far.

I know it upsets the sub-editors, but this is Oxford - can we please not use 'Boffin' when we actually mean 'Scientist'. Maybe those extra few letters unbalance the headline, but really...

In short, the planet has over-bred and will require some sort of natural selection process* to kill off the excess.

It doesn't help that the government allow building on greenbelt land, as eventually with the increase of population, the UK will be one giant concrete playground.

*war is not NATURAL "everythingburnseven
tually"!

Climate change will not affect population in the UK however. It may simply result in costal towns being less occupied (although seeing as they are usually populated by the second homes of Londoner's thats not going to create an issue.

Population in 60 years will more than likely move into the central estates so therefore overcrowding in this country will get worse. Coupled with a new breed of asylum seeker who is no longer fleeing from social persecution, rather from area's of the planet, namely Africa and Central Asia, due to these areas simply being uninhabitable due to the high temperatures and the inabilty of these countries to maintain a sustainable future.


Lady Penelope, in a way, I agree that war is not natural selection as it is a "man-made" occurance. However, if you look at the natural world, predators hunt and kill other animals to gain a resource (food or territory), whereas in our world we use guns and bombs, our version of teeth and claws, to once again, gain a resource (land, oil, an ego stroker). Granted, in the west we dont eat our enemies, but the supposed basis (the reasons given by those in power) for war is usually to improve the world, from whatever perspective you look at it.

I predict large profits for carbon compaines and the already too rich people who run them. I also predict that no real clean of up of real pollutants will happen. I predict being very poor because of the extra taxes that will be passed down. I predict more lies from our government too.

Climate Change is two words... as is 'global warming'... here's the two words that they truly represent: 'Big Business'!

Of course, there are problems in the world - there has been since time immemorial. But this 'climate change' 'global warming' is nothing more than an 'agenda'. And woe betide anyone that does not board the 'bandwagon' which has now become a 'cult' - you are immediately labelled a 'heritic'.
It's harped on all the time about 'scientists say' but many 'scientists, some 'very' eminent ones, tell the opposite of what is being slammed down our throats. Guess what? They are labelled heritics too. One eminent scientist with opposing views in the USA has even received death threats - how very civilised, but just what you'd expect from a 'cult'.

As for the Met Office, what a laughing stock this pc bunch is! What creedence does it have in spouting 'the end is nigh'? None at all!

The Met Office is about the 'weather', yes?
The Met Office is about 'forecasting', yes?
Well, it doesn't seem to get much of it correct does it?
Last winter was forecast by the Met to be one of the warmest Jan/Febs. I recall it was bloody cold, with a lot of snow. The Met Office still has not said why it got it sooooooo wrong!
Then not long ago we had that dreadful spell of weather when the Met, again, got it dreadfully wrong!
The Met Office had to answer this one, and did so, on several occasions, saying, and I quote: 'Weather forecasting is notoriously difficult over a period of 2 to 3 months.'
And YET we are expected to believe they can 'forecast' 30-50 years in advance?
Joke of the highest order! It's an agenda. And you fools are caught hook line and sinker.

Remember 2006? Hosepipe bans, and the Met Office forecasting drought is what we can expect for years to come. Guess what? Can you remember that tiny floods we had in 07? (oh, of course, the agenda was back on course, it's really 'climate change'!)

You freaks (cos that's what you are if you join a cult!) should try and think for yourselves for once in a while. You should go back to school and read (can you read?) some history and geography books (ahh, geography, history... are they still taught? No longer do we need that to be taught in schools. Why? oh I see, to be politically correct, I get it, just in case someone comes across 'Giant glacier breaking up' printed in a book many, many decades ago.)

You believers (pah!) should read some history - you would find much of this happened before in years gone by, it's called the 'weather' (lol). Glaciers melting, sea rising, been there before.
Read and listen 'carefully' to your prophets of doom. They never say it 'will' happen. Look at the release, it says 'could' happen. VAST difference! And they know it, because it's their 'agenda'.

Nature looks after itself, always has done, always will do. Interference from man has been there from day one. It changes things, but nature wins everytime.
I had a pathetic fool who lives and breathes CH & GL 24/7 tell me he agrees with all the research (only the one-sided research, mind you!) coming out, and I asked him 'Peter, why, what proof do you personally have that tells you it is happening?'
'It must be J. I read it every day in the papers - there are reports on the TV all the time, and I worry about my children's future'.

I worry about his children, too. Brainwashed.

That war isn't natural depends on your perspective. Mine is that all things are indeed part of nature, including man-made phenomena such as war.
However, human-kind often places itself above and beyond nature, a dis-association that may arguably to some degree be responsible for us making problems for ourselves.
I think we are as much a part of the natural world as everything else we share it with and as such we can only ease the problems we are causing ourselves by accepting a little more responsibility.

The simple fact is that the vast majority of the population increase has taken place in the Third World because people keep breeding beyond susatainable levels- Ethiopia's population has doubled since Sir Bob showed all the starving people there 25 years or so ago.

Too many people for the land to sustain causes huge migration, which we are then expected to accomodate, all the while being taxed and bullied into not driving and turning lights off etc etc etc.

No-one will tackle this issue because most of the population increase is among brown poor people.

Personally, I'd like to know why I have to work longer to pay taxes to be given away to India in foreign aid to feed India's multiplying poor when they can afford nuclear weapons and a space program capable of discovering water on the moon.

Penny, for once I agree with you. If the Western Governments stopped giving £billions to Africa, then nature will take its course and the population boom will be sorted in 5 years. P.S. then we wouldn't have to build on your precious green belt either.

re: population boom, look at the current isue of New Scientist. Very interesting bit about it indeed.

everythingblokey, yes it burns but we stop it burning in the places nature intended due to your p.c. wooly, lefty polotics