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Oxford Sikhs told to quit using 3-bed semi as a temple


A RELIGIOUS community in Oxford is reeling after the city council ordered members of its congregation to stop worshipping at a house in Marston.

The city’s Sikh community has been meeting at 69 Cherwell Drive to pray for nearly three years.

But they have been told to find a new home after planning councillors ruled against a retrospective application to officially change the use of the building from a place of residence to a place of worship.

Oxford City Council’s north east area committee also ordered the owners of the property to demolish a single storey extension to the building.

They have six months to comply.

Father-of-five Pargan Singh, 49, who lives nearby in Cherwell Drive, estimated there were 80 Sikh families living in Oxford and that up to 40 met at the property every Sunday, although the property – the Sikh community’s only place of worship in the city – was open for prayer 24 hours a day.

He added: “The whole community is upset by the council’s decision. If the enforcement is carried out we will be on the street in six months – we will be chucked out.

“I can understand the council’s position because it’s a residential street, but we feel we have been forgotten.

“I’m sure the council has got plenty of properties lying idle.

“We are not asking for handouts. Sikhs are very hard-working people and we can contribute financially to looking after a property. We just need a place or we can’t practise our religion. We need help.”

The Sikh community bought 69 Cherwell Drive in February 2006.

The property’s three bedrooms are rented out to pay the mortgage, while the downstairs is used for meetings and worship.

City council planning officers recommended the planning application for refusal because of parking problems and noise disturbance to neighbours.

Nearly 100 residents also signed a petition opposing the application.

Parish councillor Dr Graham Swift said: “The problem with anything on Cherwell Drive is the amount of traffic and parking that would be generated.

“Planning permission should be given before building work is carried out – and where that doesn’t happen a strong line should be taken, or there would be chaos.”

City councillor Mohammed Altaf-Khan spoke in favour of refusing the application at the north east area committee meeting on Tuesday, although he pledged to help the congregation find a new home.

After the meeting, he said: “I can clearly see there’s a need for the Sikh community to have its own place.”

Fellow committee member David Rundle voted against the recommendation to refuse the application.

He said: “My personal view is that we should show a bit more warmth towards the Sikh community.”

Mr Singh said the congregation would gather at 69 Cherwell Drive tomorrow to decide whether to appeal against the decision.

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Sid Hunt, says...
4:40pm Fri 23 Jan 09

Fellow committee member David Rundle voted against the recommendation to refuse the application. He said: “My personal view is that we should show a bit more warmth towards the Sikh community.”
As Mr Rundle lives nowhere near the property his attitude is hardly surprising. He should take a look at the damage being caused by the many vehicles using the verges and footpaths as car parks, plus the disruption caused to neighbours.
The Sikh community need somewhere to congregate but not a three-bedroomed house in a residential area.

LadyPenelope, Oxford says...
5:01pm Fri 23 Jan 09

We need to encourage the UK to become a secular country, and not pandering to individual religions.

If they're having 40 families coming to pray on a Sunday, then with parking issues this is NOT a suitable venue.

Perhaps issue parking permits, so people can't just park everywhere, and can travel to pray by bus, thus promoting use of public transport (and revenue to traffic wardens for those flaunting parking rules).

tonybrett, Oxford says...
5:04pm Fri 23 Jan 09

Funny how the council appears to do nothing about crack houses, drug dealing houses and brothels. And nothing effective about houses full of people who know nothing but antisocial behaviour. But when a nice easy target like a worshipping religious community comes along they pounce like a hungry lion.

Pretty cowardly and spineless decision by North East Area Committee if you ask me. Not to mention discriminatory.

I wonder what it thinks about all the Christian house groups that meet in private residences all over the City?

Sid Hunt, says...
6:16pm Fri 23 Jan 09

"Pretty cowardly and spineless decision by North East Area Committee if you ask me. Not to mention discriminatory."

In what way? Do you suppose that planning laws should only apply to certain people. Marston is a total mess due to hotch-potch 'developments'. It is about time the council and the planners started to protect the residential areas.

DanOxford, Oxford says...
6:58pm Fri 23 Jan 09

'Discriminatory'?

Discrimination certainly DOES exist-
for example by not applying the law to certain minority groups in the UK who break the law or follow their own laws purely on the basis that they belong to a minority.

'Discrimination' doesn't now mean any act that offends a non- white person even if that person is breaking the law does it?

I mean- I know Harriet Harperson is aiming for that definition, but I hadn't realised Nulabour had actually pushed it through...

Gareth Cheeseman, Oxford says...
8:36pm Fri 23 Jan 09

Perhaps Cherwell Drive is not the ideal place but the Sikh community does need somewherwe to worship as do the Hindus after all the Muslims the council bent over backwards to help Muslims get a Mosque so why not help the Sikhs and Hindus?

psmattu, oxford says...
9:07pm Fri 23 Jan 09

the sikh community of oxford does not wish to offend or hurt anybodies feelings but there is a clear need for a permanent place for the sikh community to meet and practice their religion freely maybe cherwell drive is not that place but we have contacted the city council on many occasions to help the community find a suitable site so far no help has been offered if the situation stays the same and we are forced to close this place.would that be fair on the hard working and law abiding sikh community of oxfordshire?

seeunexttuesday, oxford says...
9:04am Sat 24 Jan 09

“I’m sure the council has got plenty of properties lying idle".

Your comment is disgusting.

As you are hard working maybe you should buy/lease yourself a place of worship.
A petition was signed by nearly 100 people.
Your extension build was, and still is, illegal.
Sorry, but if you want help from people, then abbide by the law and others may help.

Andrew:Oxford, Oxford says...
9:54am Sat 24 Jan 09

I have every sympathy with the Sikh community who need a place to worship. A residential property isn't the place to do it though.

Perhaps time to look at alternative locations with suitable parking facilities nearby? Commercial premises a short walk from one of the park&rides might be the answer.

Perhaps, and I say this tentatively as I'm not familiar with religious taboos, a closed pub in Oxford could be converted? Sadly there are a few of them.

Whitto, Oxford says...
12:38pm Sat 24 Jan 09

tonybrett wrote:
Funny how the council appears to do nothing about crack houses, drug dealing houses and brothels. And nothing effective about houses full of people who know nothing but antisocial behaviour. But when a nice easy target like a worshipping religious community comes along they pounce like a hungry lion. Pretty cowardly and spineless decision by North East Area Committee if you ask me. Not to mention discriminatory. I wonder what it thinks about all the Christian house groups that meet in private residences all over the City?
Even by your standards Mr Brett that is pretty poor grandstanding. When you were standing to be a councillor in your failed election bid if 100 potential voters in your ward came to you with story like this about 60 people who came from all over the city and not in your ward would have said
a) This is a "Pretty cowardly and spineless decision by North East Area Committee if you ask me"
or
b)I'll do all I can to get it closed down if you vote for me

Also your use of the "appears" is typical. No actual accusations, just inference. If you know of a brothel, crack house or drug dealer you should tell the police, that might help you actually do some good for your area instead of spouting cheap shots on here.

Face it, they have broken planning laws. I agree they need a place to worship but this clearly isn't the place. Andrews idea of taking over a closed pub is an excellent one, purpose built parking etc. I'm sure all the previous sin can be blessed and prayed away.

DanOxford, Oxford says...
8:57pm Sat 24 Jan 09

Well I think we're agreed they need to sikh alternative accomodation.

Mick Heavey, Old Marston says...
6:45pm Tue 27 Jan 09

Most people are welcoming to all religions so if the majority of Sikhs visiting this temporary temple/house live in Oxford surely they could visit using the local frequent bus services. This would have eradicated the biggest irritation to local residents i.e. the damage to local grass verges & blocking of driveways. It's not surprising then that this lack of consideration has upset those living closest. The lesson needs to be learnt that good manners cost nothing BUT bad manners can cost you everything.

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Gurminder Singh, left, Jagtar Singh, Balwinder Kaur Gill, Saroop Singh Gill and Pargan Singh Mattu in the Cherwell Drive temple Oxford Sikh's told to quit using 3-bed semi as a temple

Gurminder Singh, left, Jagtar Singh, Balwinder Kaur Gill, Saroop Singh Gill and Pargan Singh Mattu in the Cherwell Drive temple

Oxford Sikh's told to quit using 3-bed semi as a temple




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