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Women protest over prayers


Protesters demonstrated outside a Muslim centre in North Oxford to object to a woman leading an Islamic prayer meeting.

Today's prayers, at the Muslim Education Centre of Oxford, in Banbury Road, were thought to be the first time a woman has led a mixed congregation of Muslims in this country.

'I decided to come because it was something new and I wanted to see what she was going to say'

Vakkas Tekin

Nine women staged a peaceful protest outside the centre, holding placards saying "True Muslims respect Sharia law" and "Women leading the prayer is against Islamic law".

Two police officers kept watch on the protest.

Maryam Ramzy, who works at Oxford's all-Muslim Iqra School and is married to the school's chairman Hojjat Ramzy, said: "We are practising Muslim women and we believe women should not lead the prayer.

"The main reason is because of the position when we pray, we put our heads on the floor and backside in the air and if there are men behind us it ruins their prayer.

"This is the law, sharia law, and it should not be changed. It makes us feel uncomfortable. Muslims in Oxford feel strongly about this, they are upset."

Muhammed Khan, a founder of two of the city's mosques, also came to the centre — but was there to tell Muslims not to protest but to ignore the meeting.

He said: "I think the people praying are wasting their time and I feel sorry for them, because their prayer will not be valid."

About 20 men and women joined Prof Amina Wadud, an American Islamic scholar, as she delivered an hour-long khutba — sermon — about the importance of salat — prayers — then led the gathering in prayer.

The meeting marked the start of a two-day conference at Wolfson College on Islam and feminism.

Among those taking part was Vakkas Tekin, 67, from Botley. He said: "I decided to come because it was something new and it has never been done before and I wanted to see what she was going to say.

"I think she was very good. She did not say anything about the religion which was against Islam."

Oxford University student Zahra Raja, 21, came to the service but did not join the prayers. She said: "I was very impressed by her. It was very well-researched. I didn't participate, because I wasn't sure if it was the right thing for me to do."

Prof Wadud received death threats when she led prayers in New York in 2005. She said: "The research indicates there is no prohibition and the Prophet even assigned a woman himself to lead the prayer. My own research confirms it is possible.

"I do not know how it went, but I was able to fulfil my salat and that is the most important thing."

Meco chairman Dr Taj Hargey said: "We wanted a peaceful prayer. We may have been small in number but there was a spiritual atmosphere and a relaxed environment. It was the perfect beginning for our conference."


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abubaker, oxford says...
11:46pm Fri 17 Oct 08

taj hijrday is true when he says that there are proofs of women leading prayers at the time of the prophet peace be upon him. But the women used to lead prayers within the house. Firstly, It is not mandatory on a woman to perform a friday prayer. Islam forbids men and women to mix together as this creates 'shahwah' (sexual desires) .. and from here the sins rise. Islam orders a woman to hide her female charms from public to prevent her from evil eyes and save women from getting disrespected.
When a woman stands infront of a man in prayers is the man going to concentrate in God??? Obviously not personally I will get seduced if her voice and body, etc is beautiful. and a mosque church etc is not a social club its a place of divine respect, repenting from sins and wrong doings. This is one form of how respect is shown to a woman. That is why God says in the holy Quran that he never sent prophets who were women .. they were all men as Moses peace be upon him, Jesus Peace be upon him and Muhammad Peace be upon him. Another thing I would like to request Taj is start meeting good religious people rather than enjoying your time with interest and morgage brokers and drunkards and you will surely realise that there are a lot of scholars in Oxford who are more knowledgeable and religious and will be able to guide you the real islam without any innovations and may you repent to God because no one is safe from his anger.. Amina Wadood is not going to come to your grave to save you

Do not believe a word they tell you, Oxford says...
12:29pm Sat 18 Oct 08

How long will we pussyfoot around this religion which contradicts everything we stand for in the U.K?.

As for the women that protested,i am happy to say they deserve every day of their miserable opressed lives to come.

Hugo123, oxford says...
2:25pm Sat 18 Oct 08

The event was actually held at The Oxford Masonic Centre. Not the Islamic Centre.

DanOxford, Oxford says...
5:34pm Sat 18 Oct 08

Nine women staged a peaceful protest outside the centre, holding placards saying "True Muslims respect Sharia law" and "Women leading the prayer is against Islamic law".

Oh I'm sorry- I must have miss-typed the web address and found myself on The Darfur Daily, The Mogadishu Mail or the Taleban Times, as surely the only law relevant in the ENGLISH city of Oxford is ENGLISH law?

belgarion, Wallingford says...
8:22am Sun 19 Oct 08

So, abubaker of Oxford, you say Islam forbids men and women to mix together as this creates 'shahwah' (sexual desires) and when a woman stands in front of a man in prayers he is not going to concentrate in God.
This only goes to show that this prophet was just a conceited man!. He obviously realised that muslim men were a randy old bunch and couldn’t be trusted to worship him if their were women about. He knew they would get leg over friendly if they so much as saw a woman, so what does he do? Restrict the women of course because he was a man, can’t blame his fellow chaps for their wandering eyes can he, tell them to stow the old trouser snake and concentrate on worshiping him or something nasty will befall it. Nope, do what men have done immemorial, blame it on the women, make them dress up in those silly portable tents, etc. Says a lot about Islam really and how the prophet was jealous of women as he knew they had greater power than him.

Amjad Khan, Oxford says...
10:54am Sun 19 Oct 08

If you really want to know the truth about the event read the article on the Ummah Pulse site. The title is Amina Wadud Repeats Stunt in Masonic Hall. Google Ummah Pulse and you will find it.

Do not believe a word they tell you, Oxford says...
2:29pm Sun 19 Oct 08

Muslims i have a message for you all.

This is Britain where we are about 500 years in front of you in every aspect of life.

Keep your backward beliefs away from us in public like you did here.

If you want to believe in nonsense in your own homes and places of worship then so be it.

Going on the streets with disgusting signs like happened at this event will not be tolerated.

If your "prophet" was so insecure that he felt threatened by women then you need to ask yourselves some serious questions.....

Equal rights for both men and women.

That is why your religion is at odds with OUR way of life here in the U.K.

And i will say it again....

Those women who protested against a woman holding prayers deserve every single god-forsaken day of oppressed misery they get under your religion.

abubaker, oxford says...
7:35pm Sun 19 Oct 08

dear belgarion from wallingford,
I am very sorry but the comment I have posted is for some one who is sober enough to understand the issue and not disrespect anyone. I am sorry but the way you have spoken about the women in islam show how very little knowledge you have about islam or christianity or judaism or any other religion... open the true bible and read what god says about lifestyle.. religions dont depend upon what people practice, it depends upon what the principles are... There are a lot of things people practice regardless of any religion which are just customized according to their wants but god is never wrong and his words are always true. So if you want to study about religions , spare some time and read the holy books and they will guide you. one thing good about muslims is you will still never find even the most ignorant muslims ever disrespecting moses or jesus Peace be upon them all ! I am so sorry you need to learn a lot..

belgarion, Wallingford says...
11:17pm Sun 19 Oct 08

I only need to know one thing about Islam. Practically every terrorist act in the world today is perpetrated in the name of Islam! Women and children being slaughtered by suicide bombers who profess to do this in the name of the prophet. Why do we not have Hindu or Budhist suicide bombers for instance? and you talk of peace!! your religion belongs in the barbaric age in which it was formed not in todays world.

abubaker, oxford says...
11:11pm Mon 20 Oct 08

dear belgarion let me ask you something really simple... did you ever hear about suicide bombing when there were world wars where millions of people were slaughtered? and before that? Well Islam has been there for hundereds of years! no one ever heard about muslims slaughtering when the whole world was involved in bloodshed in wars? Whats suddenly changed? Why do you think we suddenly in the past decade, find people pumping hatred in people regarding islam and what never hasnt changed in more than 1400 years suddenly started changing within 10 years? I think it is not about religion.

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