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Minister's fears for county's housing

5:56am Friday 1st August 2008

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New housing estates are desperately needed to solve Oxford's chronic homes shortage, the Government's housing minister said on a visit to the city yesterday.

In a defiant message to opponents of two controversial housing developments, Caroline Flint compared Oxford's housing market to a pressure cooker, during a visit to a social housing development in Rose Hill.

She told the Oxford Mail that plans to build 4,000 homes south of Grenoble Road were essential to the future economic prosperity of the city.

And she reiterated the Government's support for eco-towns - including the planned 15,000-home development at Weston Otmoor, near Bicester.

She said: "There's only so much housing you can build in Oxford and given its historical architecture it can be pretty limiting.

"Oxford is a city that is bursting at the seams - it's like a pressure cooker.

"There are between 3,000 and 4,000 people on the city's social housing list and about the same in Cherwell. And that doesn't even cover people wanting to buy a home."

Mrs Flint said the Grenoble Road plans were "an important part of the solution to Oxford's housing needs".

But she added: "It still won't be enough for the needs of people living in Oxford and the surrounding area and we have to look at other options further afield."

Mrs Flint met city, district and parish councillors during her visit to Oxfordshire, as well as opponents of the proposed eco-town at Weston Otmoor.

Alan Cotton, a spokesman for Weston Front, the campaign group fighting the Weston Otmoor scheme, said flooding and transport worries made the proposal unsustainable.

He said: "The plans don't meet the objectives the Housing Minister has put forward for eco-towns."

Oxford City Council leader Bob Price said: "We appreciated the chance to show the minister our support for the eco-town and to explain the need for more housing in the city both for rent and to buy at affordable rates."

He said of the Grenoble Road site: "It's low grade agricultural land with very little landscape value and it has a huge advantage in terms of access to current transport links and urban facilities."

Neighbouring Baldons Parish Council is vehemently opposed to the Grenoble Road scheme.

Chairman Dorothy Tonge said: "We think the development would have a major impact in terms of traffic and congestion and remove a significant stretch of green land that provides a breathing space for residents in Blackbird Leys."

Oxfordshire County Council also opposes moves to build on Green Belt land, preferring to build in market towns like Didcot, Bicester and Banbury, which all adjoin the A34 dual carriageway.

County Hall leader Keith Mitchell said: "It would be another Blackbird Leys, which is not the most successful housing estate.

"It's a long way from the city centre and it would create a car-bound community that's as likely to commute to Reading and London than Oxford.

"It would have little sense of community."


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Jock, Headington says...
7:56am Fri 1 Aug 08

What's pretty limiting is the minister's imagination...

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Michael, Oxford says...
9:53am Fri 1 Aug 08

Here we see the true position of Keith Mitchell - slating Blackbird Leys for no good reason and keeping the housing away from the leafy Tory areas of north Oxfordshire.

All he wants is for the houses to be dumped in Didcot, Bicester and Grove so that weveryone has to travel to Oxford and destroy the Green Belt with traffic.

Grenoble Road makes a lot of sense. It is close to Oxford minimising tavel and in an area that (lets face it) is not full of scenic beauty.

Come on Mr. Mitchell wake upto common sense and forget all your party political stuff.

Jay, Oxford says...
10:09am Fri 1 Aug 08

She told the Oxford Mail that plans to build 4,000 homes south of Grenoble Road were essential to the future economic prosperity of the city.


Well how about building a car free area where residents are not permitted to own a car??

4000 homes = 4000+ cars = A34 coming to a standstill.

The A34 CAN NOT support any more traffic!!

They should build outside Oxford (Grove, Bicester etc...) then invest massively in public transport, perhaps even opening up the railway line in Grove again.

They need a LONG term solution, and building the houses off Grenoble road isn't going to work, and the A34 cannot be made into a motorway.

Sasquatch, your back garden says...
10:24am Fri 1 Aug 08

She's a bit of allright!!!

Dave, Abingdon says...
10:53am Fri 1 Aug 08

"It's a long way from the city centre" - yes Mr Mitchell, so are Didcot, Grove, Bicester and Banbury.

Andrew, Oxford says...
11:18am Fri 1 Aug 08

Dave wrote:
"It's a long way from the city centre" - yes Mr Mitchell, so are Didcot, Grove, Bicester and Banbury.
It's not *that* far from the city centre...

Having walked from Grenoble Road to the Railway Station many, many times I can assure you it takes less than 50 minutes to Magdalen Bridge and less than an hour to the Railway Station.

Angry, Grove says...
11:56am Fri 1 Aug 08

It's a long way from the city centre


Pathetic!. Its actually rather close and Grove is 20 miles away on a narrow road which is nowhere near the A34. This Tory policy of dumping housing in the market towns and villages is nothing more than an election ploy. We wont forget!

Phil Gale, Oxford says...
12:16pm Fri 1 Aug 08

It's a long way from the city centre
Pathetic!. Its actually rather close


Surely his point is that it's far enough that a lot of those 4000 houses would need to be car-owning, perhaps multiple car-owning. And there's no way you can jam another 4000 cars into the city every day.

Time for more creative thinking: how about extending the railway line (the old branch line) down to Grenoble road, and guaranteeing very regular trains/trams to Oxford city centre. Then, living down there could be quite an attractive proposition.

Tom, says...
1:08pm Fri 1 Aug 08

Another lying politician who trys to protray that she actually cares......she does not.

simon, oxford says...
1:51pm Fri 1 Aug 08

Watched BBC South yesterday, and the way she pranced out of her vehicle and swept her hair back, I thought it was a celeb!

JaY, oxford says...
2:28pm Fri 1 Aug 08

simon wrote:
Watched BBC South yesterday, and the way she pranced out of her vehicle and swept her hair back, I thought it was a celeb!
big eye bags though!!

Tom, says...
3:38pm Fri 1 Aug 08

JaY wrote:
simon wrote: Watched BBC South yesterday, and the way she pranced out of her vehicle and swept her hair back, I thought it was a celeb!
big eye bags though!!
That is what happens when you are afraid of being arrested......

jj, oxfordshire says...
4:22pm Fri 1 Aug 08

Instead of building large estates out of town, why not build smaller communities within the ciy in the brownfield sites, they are all over the place, then car usage hopefully will not increase too much. Also they need to be kept at low rental rates, and lower prices, maybe council owned..yes new council houses what a novel idea.
There were some "affordable houses" build near me in a otherwise expensive small estate, what they though by affordable I do not know, I have a very good wage and they were over my limit were bought by someome people at lower rates and then sold when the prices went up so they are now not afforadable for a lot of people.

Janet, Oxford says...
5:45pm Fri 1 Aug 08

jj wrote:
Instead of building large estates out of town, why not build smaller communities within the ciy in the brownfield sites, they are all over the place, then car usage hopefully will not increase too much. Also they need to be kept at low rental rates, and lower prices, maybe council owned..yes new council houses what a novel idea.
There were some "affordable houses" build near me in a otherwise expensive small estate, what they though by affordable I do not know, I have a very good wage and they were over my limit were bought by someome people at lower rates and then sold when the prices went up so they are now not afforadable for a lot of people.
Doesn't "affordable", mean "social", housing. From my observations in Oxford The developers have to agree to build a few extras - usually at lower standards and then the council pass them over to a a housing association to manage - so they are effectively council houses. Even key workers properties are part owned by housing associations Or have I got that wrong??

Rockabilly Dude, Half Way To Memphis says...
6:24pm Fri 1 Aug 08

Well spotted JJ - you've neatly summed up the entire ethos behind 'eco' housing. The entire idea is supposed to regenerate brownfield sites. Somewhat bizarely, flint and Parkridge/Prologis have all stated that 'Weston Otmoor' is brownfield! Quite how they arrive at that, nobody knows - neither Flint nor Parkridge/Prologis will say...so much for 'consultation'. What is obvious though, is that if local, existing, brownfield sites were to be developed for 'eco' housing, Parkridge/Prologis wouldn't get their warehousing and distribution hub - and without that, they would lose interest at an embarrising rate - leaving poor old Flint high and dry, and looking for a new job.

Jock, Headington says...
8:25pm Fri 1 Aug 08

Janet, yes, that's more or less it. There are different key worker schemes that don't necessarily involve co-ownership, but mostly they do. Except, believe it or not, a great deal of the "social" housing is to a higher standard. May not be as pretty or as full of gadgets, but basics such as energy efficiency and floorspace are usually better as being publicly funded they tend to have to comply with more standards like eco-homes and lifetime homes. It's supposed to be fifty per cent of the units are affordable in any development over a certain size - 10 units I think still. In practice developers can use a number of tactics to reduce that requirement.

In fact, Oxford's housing crisis is a bit of a myth if you look at it dispassionately (which is indeed difficult to do when you're the one in unaffordable or overcrowded housing). It is mostly caused not by a physical lack of property or building land but because there are no real incentives for people to match their housing to their needs. For every overcrowded house there are up to ten underoccupied. Nearly everyone on the waiting list has a roof over their head of some kind, just that it may not be affordable or suitable.

But the bedspaces are there if there was an incentive to make use of them better. Many people approaching retirement for example say they would downsize if there was something appropriate for them to downsize to in their community, so making our housing match our population's various needs at different times in their lives would solve most of the problem.

Besides, if the problem were as big as planners interpret it to be (wrongly in my opinion), the four thousand homes outside Greater Leys (which I also think is a bad idea both for the people who will live there and for those who already live in what are the least well off wards in the city), would not even keep pace with supposed current demand let alone those already in housing need.

We also need to start replacing our housing stock - much is getting old, is not energy efficient for the future ahead of high energy prices and so will decline in value fairly quickly as running costs increase. At the rate we demolish and rebuild housing in this country each new home built today would have to expect to last as long as the Egyptian pyramids!

Joe, Marston Road says...
11:01pm Fri 1 Aug 08

"Banbury, which all adjoin the A34 dual carriageway"

Banbury. Adjoining the A 34?????

OCC aware as ever!

My map must be out of date or something!

Jock, Headington says...
1:22am Sat 2 Aug 08

Of course that bit is not a quote from OCC, Joe. But then let's not let a little journalistic simplification of actual policy (on major transport routes in general, such as the A34) get in the way of having a pop at the inept "authorities".

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