Oxford author Philip Pullman is positive a sequel will be made to the controversial movie The Golden Compass

Please no The Golden Compass was one of the worst films ever made.

Peter wrote:

Oxford author Philip Pullman is positive a sequel will be made to the controversial movie The Golden Compass

Please no The Golden Compass was one of the worst films ever made.

you mean in your opinion?

if not then you would be an arrogant opinionistic idiot.

Tom wrote:

Peter wrote:

Oxford author Philip Pullman is positive a sequel will be made to the controversial movie The Golden Compass

Please no The Golden Compass was one of the worst films ever made.

you mean in your opinion? if not then you would be an arrogant opinionistic idiot.

No it is a statement of FACT the fim was **** and the books as bad.

Andy wrote:

Tom wrote:

Peter wrote:

Oxford author Philip Pullman is positive a sequel will be made to the controversial movie The Golden Compass

Please no The Golden Compass was one of the worst films ever made.

you mean in your opinion? if not then you would be an arrogant opinionistic idiot.

No it is a statement of FACT the fim was **** and the books as bad.

Another arrogant opinionistic idiot.

Try Bollywood?

Andy wrote:

Tom wrote:

Peter wrote:

Oxford author Philip Pullman is positive a sequel will be made to the controversial movie The Golden Compass

Please no The Golden Compass was one of the worst films ever made.

you mean in your opinion? if not then you would be an arrogant opinionistic idiot.

No it is a statement of FACT the fim was **** and the books as bad.

Giving YOUR opinion does NOT make it a statement of FACT. Opinions are purely subjective whereas facts require objective evidence. Get it now? Maybe not but there may be hope it will sink in in time

whereas facts require objective evidence

If you had seen the film you would have objective evidence and know that its crap FACT

Shane wrote:

whereas facts require objective evidence

If you had seen the film you would have objective evidence and know that its crap FACT

Is that you Shane Richie?

I love the books and I love the movie (FACT) I hope there is a sequel. I don't think you have to watch it if you don't want to boys!!

As an exercise in god bothering it may have been less successful than was hoped for.

Shane wrote:

whereas facts require objective evidence

If you had seen the film you would have objective evidence and know that its crap FACT

Shane you are obviously poorly educated!! Now I will explain this to you only once so read carefully. As befits your mental age I must ask if you are sitting comfortably, Good, I will begin.

Definition of SUBJECTIVE - something which takes place within the mind and modified by individual bias, ie YOUR opinion.

Definition of OBJECTIVE - something uninfluenced by emotions or personal prejudices

Definition of a FACT - something which is known to be true by OBJECTIVE evidence.

So hopefully you now understand that your opinion is not objective nor is it factual.

QED that you actually talk crap.

Well said Archie. Nothing like a spot of numpty bashing. I reckon you are wasting your time trying to 'educate' the likes of Shane (the name says it all). But good try mate

Shane wins the award for objective critique.

Archie gets the grapes of wrath award for his sour demeanour

All your postings say nothing much about the movie or books, just quoting the dictionary. As a Christian mom of 4 daughters and a US citizen, I was glad to see the movie bomb in the US. I was very surprised that the rest of the world did not see or care that Pullman's underlying motive to promote anti-Christian ideas in children's minds. The movie was at least rated PG-13 which deterred some kids to watch it. It was also banned and pulled from many public, private and Christian elementary schools. The Catholic churches in the Philadelphia area all urged parents to boycott the movie and books. My hope is that the next movie is not made, but Pullman has a right to his views on religion, and all people have a right to the books and the movies if they choose - my family will never go to see it though.

Anne wrote:
All your postings say nothing much about the movie or books, just quoting the dictionary. As a Christian mom of 4 daughters and a US citizen, I was glad to see the movie bomb in the US. I was very surprised that the rest of the world did not see or care that Pullman's underlying motive to promote anti-Christian ideas in children's minds. The movie was at least rated PG-13 which deterred some kids to watch it. It was also banned and pulled from many public, private and Christian elementary schools. The Catholic churches in the Philadelphia area all urged parents to boycott the movie and books. My hope is that the next movie is not made, but Pullman has a right to his views on religion, and all people have a right to the books and the movies if they choose - my family will never go to see it though.

That is your choice and I support your right to believe in 'sky fairies' and to read the biggest work of fiction ever written, ie the bible, if you so wish. Myself I prefer to deal in FACTS of which about religion there is precious little, except it causes much killing in this world.

Religion, utter tosh. Latest news from the States…..a gunman opens fire at a Tennessee church and kills two people as parishioners watch a children's musical. If there was an all powerful God would he have not prevented such a thing in his ‘own house’? or stopped Catholic priests, who preach in his name, mucking around with little boys, etc, etc. The sooner we all get over this anachronistic rubbish the better, it has not part in a modern world.

Anne wrote:
All your postings say nothing much about the movie or books, just quoting the dictionary. As a Christian mom of 4 daughters and a US citizen, I was glad to see the movie bomb in the US. I was very surprised that the rest of the world did not see or care that Pullman's underlying motive to promote anti-Christian ideas in children's minds. The movie was at least rated PG-13 which deterred some kids to watch it. It was also banned and pulled from many public, private and Christian elementary schools. The Catholic churches in the Philadelphia area all urged parents to boycott the movie and books. My hope is that the next movie is not made, but Pullman has a right to his views on religion, and all people have a right to the books and the movies if they choose - my family will never go to see it though.

IF you're that frightened that it's going to put anti-christian thoughts in your children's heads, then you can't be that secure in your religion!

Here in the UK, we believe in freedom of speech, and we (try to) keep an open mind to everyone's beliefs.

I think the fact that it bombed in the US box office just goes to show how they still live in the dark ages and have a long way to go!

Here in the UK, we believe in freedom of speech, and we (try to) keep an open mind to everyone's beliefs.

Unless the person who is speaking happens to be a white englishmen.

It is amazing how the readers of this paper get so wound up over such trivial and unimportant matters on a daily basis. I am surprised the heart attack and stroke rate in Oxford is not rocketing you are all clearly over stressed about something.

Stan wrote:

Here in the UK, we believe in freedom of speech, and we (try to) keep an open mind to everyone's beliefs.

Unless the person who is speaking happens to be a white englishmen.

It is amazing how the readers of this paper get so wound up over such trivial and unimportant matters on a daily basis. I am surprised the heart attack and stroke rate in Oxford is not rocketing you are all clearly over stressed about something.

.....and you Stan are obviously wound up about the bias against white Englishmen, not that I would disagree with you of course. This country bends over backwards to accommodate everyone who is not indigenous but takes no notice of the white 95% of the population. And to think I was always taught that God made Englishmen in his image. Guess that proves there is no God or he has forsaken us.

Look! I saw the Golden Compass, and as far as I can see there was nothing anti-religious at all in it, what it was really trying to say is that there should be a freedom of religion, that no religion should be taught to children as pure fact.

The current interpretation would be that: at the moment there are many schools that teach that evolution is true, it is mearly a theory, it is giving no room for christianity of Islam, or any such religion.

The film trys to guard against things like this! So in no ways is it anti christian!

Now I was very dissapointed to hear some of you call the Bible fiction... that is technically illegal to say in the UK, and I think you aught to say sorry for it! it is totally unfair and unjust, as far as humans are concerned, none of us know the truth, so who are you to say what is right and what is wrong! I think an appology would be suitable! Thanks!

Now I was very dissapointed to hear some of you call the Bible fiction... that is technically illegal to say in the UK, and I think you aught to say sorry for it! it is totally unfair and unjust, as far as humans are concerned, none of us know the truth, so who are you to say what is right and what is wrong! I think an appology would be suitable! Thanks!

I'm sorry. Sorry for reading the absolute load of crap you wrote. It is not 'technically illegal' to say the bible is fiction, never has been never will. MUPPET.

New Labour again and their meddling.

Blasphemy laws removed to get their gays into the churches.

Mbuckingham wrote:
Look! I saw the Golden Compass, and as far as I can see there was nothing anti-religious at all in it, what it was really trying to say is that there should be a freedom of religion, that no religion should be taught to children as pure fact.

The current interpretation would be that: at the moment there are many schools that teach that evolution is true, it is mearly a theory, it is giving no room for christianity of Islam, or any such religion.

The film trys to guard against things like this! So in no ways is it anti christian!

Now I was very dissapointed to hear some of you call the Bible fiction... that is technically illegal to say in the UK, and I think you aught to say sorry for it! it is totally unfair and unjust, as far as humans are concerned, none of us know the truth, so who are you to say what is right and what is wrong! I think an appology would be suitable! Thanks!

There are many more facts to support evolution than the preposterous notion that the Earth was created in 7 days!! Surely it is about time people realised than religion was INVENTED for two reasons, power and fear. Power for the priests and fear to keep the largely ignorant populous under control and in awe of the church. This is of course the same church whose Pope (god's representative on Earth, now there's a laugh) tried for years to cover up paedophile priests fiddling with altar boys!!

I quite enjoyed the books, but never fancied the film from the trailros I saw, maybe I'll watch it one day but I quite think it would ruin it for me.

As for whether it's anti-christian, or anti-anything... if you don't like it, don't watch it. I'm sure there are more offensive things for you to get wound up about.

I have read all the trilogy and it knocks JK Rowling into a cocked hat - F##k the Yanks they have no taste in cinema , they are only interested in films that have a body count of over 50 a minuite - Go Mr Pullman , most excellent

Penny wrote:

Mbuckingham wrote: Look! I saw the Golden Compass, and as far as I can see there was nothing anti-religious at all in it, what it was really trying to say is that there should be a freedom of religion, that no religion should be taught to children as pure fact. The current interpretation would be that: at the moment there are many schools that teach that evolution is true, it is mearly a theory, it is giving no room for christianity of Islam, or any such religion. The film trys to guard against things like this! So in no ways is it anti christian! Now I was very dissapointed to hear some of you call the Bible fiction... that is technically illegal to say in the UK, and I think you aught to say sorry for it! it is totally unfair and unjust, as far as humans are concerned, none of us know the truth, so who are you to say what is right and what is wrong! I think an appology would be suitable! Thanks!

There are many more facts to support evolution than the preposterous notion that the Earth was created in 7 days!! Surely it is about time people realised than religion was INVENTED for two reasons, power and fear. Power for the priests and fear to keep the largely ignorant populous under control and in awe of the church. This is of course the same church whose Pope (god's representative on Earth, now there's a laugh) tried for years to cover up paedophile priests fiddling with altar boys!!

Absoulute nonsense - the old testament is the history of a people and thier relationshio with their GOD , the new testiment is the story of a person who had an alternative and very budhist outlook on life and was in all respects a humanist . As for the world being created in 6 days , the hindus believe that that with one breath of Krishna ( I think ) a eon passes , its all alligorical , but of course you have to have a smigin of intelligence to be able to see beyound the words .

The Church , which is an invention as with all big organisations , has lost its way and over the years has meddled in far too many things for its own good. However I would prefer any religion to the one that is being imposed by stealth upon this county by our government , one that advocates using women and children and the disabled to blow up non belivers in its satanic moon worshiping death cult . But we have already had many films made about that - Star wars , Star treck and of course The Lord of the rings . Assimilate or die .

Yep I sure hope so. I loved The Golden Compass, dispite what most people thought of it. It was entertaining enough to make me want to see the rest of the Trilogy.

Frankly I'm ashamed and dismayed at the apparent effect the religious right wing wackos in the US had on this film. I've watched it 3 times and have ordered the books including the prequel. I loved the movie and salute the viewing public in the UK and the rest of the world who seem to have as well. Going by the box office receipts there I think it would be a waste to not produce the rest of the trilogy. Oh and by the way I'm not an atheist but I have no use for religious organizations that fear for loss of control over their minions.

I personaly enjoyed both the movie and the books. I hope the sequels are made.

As for the anti-religious thing, well, don't like it, don't see it. Simple isn't it? And honestly, the way how americans reacted at the movie only increases my disgust for christianity; I have to tolerate stupid **** like The Chronicles of Narnia, so why can't those stupid american bigots just be cool with His Dark Materials?

arrogant ignorant religious idiots! your only problem is you misconceptions about the film promoting the rejection of "god"
while at most THE BOOKS (NOT THE MOVIE)

Might be said to promote freethinking so why don't you go pray to DoG for them to axe a sequel according to you it will work so knock yourselves out idiots!

arrogant ignorant religious idiots! your only problem is you misconceptions about the film promoting the rejection of "god"
while at most THE BOOKS (NOT THE MOVIE)

Might be said to promote freethinking so why don't you go pray to DoG for them to axe a sequel according to you it will work so knock yourselves out idiots!

Now thats a good comment

Wow. I think stereotyping an entire country is hilarious. Yeah, the U.S. is a majority of Christians who believe in God, but I don't see anything wrong with that. It hasn't stopped the country from being successful. And religious morals are what helped put together the Constitution, which is what helped create the successful democracy that a lot of countries around the world today have adapted as their own form of government. And the people in the U.S. who boycotted the film were just using their freedom to disagree with something that they thought wasn't right. Yeah, religion may have caused plenty of problems in the past and some in the present too, but it's because humans aren't exactly perfect. God is meant to guide us, not smite us every time we start a war. We're meant to learn from our mistakes, right?
I've read both His Dark Materials and The Chronicles of Narnia and I thought both were amazing. There's nothing wrong with being atheist and there's nothing wrong with being religious. They're just two different opinions. What's wrong with having an opinion? I just think it's amazing that people go on and on about how ignorant religious people or atheists are just to prove that they're opinion is right. I'm pretty sure freedom of religion allows people to practice whatever religion they want to, so whatever you all believe in, go ahead and practice it, but don't scold someone else that what they believe in is wrong. That's pretty rude.
So let's get back to what we're really supposed to be talking about. I really hope they finish making all the movies from the trilogy because the series is absolutely amazing. The Golden Compass was literally the first book that I couldn't put down after starting it. The first movie was successful worldwide so I don't see any reason for not making the next movie.

"Shane you are obviously poorly educated!!"

Thank you Archie, for your example of subjective, biased opinion.

There are many more facts to support evolution than the preposterous notion that the Earth was created in 7 days!! Surely it is about time people realised than religion was INVENTED for two reasons, power and fear. Power for the priests and fear to keep the largely ignorant populous under control and in awe of the church. This is of course the same church whose Pope (god's representative on Earth, now there's a laugh) tried for years to cover up paedophile priests fiddling with altar boys!!

Ah, another example of subjective, biased opinion. Thanks for the guidelines, Archie.

arrogant ignorant religious idiots!

More subjective, biased opinion. Will it ever end?

That is your choice and I support your right to believe in 'sky fairies' and to read the biggest work of fiction ever written, ie the bible, if you so wish. Myself I prefer to deal in FACTS of which about religion there is precious little, except it causes much killing in this world.

Yet more subjective, biased opinion. My goodness, it's rampant among anti-Christian ranters!

Mr Pullman said he hoped there would not be too long a delay before work started on the sequel because Dakota Blue Richards, the 12-year-old star of The Golden Compass, was growing up quite quickly.

Mr. Pullman -- a little reality -- Warner Brothers is not going to make a sequel. Accept it. Sequels with child actors get greenlit quickly or they don't get greenlit at all. Warner Brothers knows Dakota Blue Richards is getting older. That's why they're stalling. They don't want to make the sequel and they don't want to come right out and say it. Solution? Let Dakota Blue Richards get older, while they don't say for sure one way or the other. Wait another year -- the problem takes care of itself, from their point of view.

Those who think its anti-christian, grow up with your thoughts please. If you are really strong in your faith, why worry about what others write? Unless there is indeed evidence in the history of Christianity that something is indeed wrong and the christians of today are so desperately trying to cover these untold histories.

Didn't Da Vinci's Code shake the very foundation of Christianity when it launched?

Personally, I have read all 3 books of His Dark Materials, I loved it and I thought it was original and nicely done. The movie though, wasn't so nicely ended since the ending of the The Golden Compass the book did not end the way it is in the movie.

I'm still waiting for the Subtle Knife to be made into the movie. I'll be waiting to see how good is the director gonna make the movie to portray the story.

Edward wrote:
Frankly I\'m ashamed and dismayed at the apparent effect the religious right wing wackos in the US had on this film. I\'ve watched it 3 times and have ordered the books including the prequel. I loved the movie and salute the viewing public in the UK and the rest of the world who seem to have as well. Going by the box office receipts there I think it would be a waste to not produce the rest of the trilogy. Oh and by the way I\'m not an atheist but I have no use for religious organizations that fear for loss of control over their minions.

There's a Prequel? What's the name of it?

Actually I thought the author might continue writing the next set of trilogies to further the story in His Dark Material...

I live in Singapore, I'm brought up in racial and religious harmony. However even christianity is trying aggressively to increase the number of christians. Ask yourself, what good is it to force belief in Jesus and the god / creator? Pointless. Best of all, christianity preaches that he who does not believe in him is sinning and will be condemned to hell. Sorry it does not appeal to me and I personally find it rather offending, like only god exists but not other religious gods / beliefs.

Farkas wrote:

Mr Pullman said he hoped there would not be too long a delay before work started on the sequel because Dakota Blue Richards, the 12-year-old star of The Golden Compass, was growing up quite quickly.

Mr. Pullman -- a little reality -- Warner Brothers is not going to make a sequel. Accept it. Sequels with child actors get greenlit quickly or they don't get greenlit at all. Warner Brothers knows Dakota Blue Richards is getting older. That's why they're stalling. They don't want to make the sequel and they don't want to come right out and say it. Solution? Let Dakota Blue Richards get older, while they don't say for sure one way or the other. Wait another year -- the problem takes care of itself, from their point of view.

Reality check Farkas,

The girl in the story did grow up along the way.

Girls grow up faster than boys when we reach certain age due to growth spurts. That's normal. Dakota is a lovely girl...

It would be too bad if the entire story is not being made into film. However I think alot of people have a slight misconception. The stars of the shows may be replaced when necessary.

Anyways, let's just wait to see if there are more concrete news of the sequel release...

I'm from the UK, I am a catholic and i LOVE the books and really enjoyed the film and want the others to be released.

I think anyone of any religious denomination wanting to boycott a film like this because of their beliefs are kidding themselves. This, like harry potter, will not turn anyone away from religion who would not otherwise have been. It is fiction, both the film and the books, forms of entertainment which EVERYONE watching knows of. No one is watching these things thinking "wow, that must be real" no matter what their age. If i'm mistaken then lets run for the hills because Saruman and his evil orc army are coming to rule over us; no, seriously, i seen it in Lord of the Rings.

So, my point is that religious or not, neither the books or films should be avoided for reasons such as those being discussed. They're great stories. That's exactly what they are, stories.

My family including my husband and 7 grandchildren do hope that the sequels will be made of the Golden Compass. I reside in USA. I wish more had seen the movie here. I really didn't hear the hoop-la from the religious right. Many of the same things were being said about Harry Potter. So please, there are many of us that do want to see the sequels. We are also thankful for being introdused to the books that all of us have now read. Thank you. Lorraine.

Hime wrote:

Edward wrote: Frankly I\'m ashamed and dismayed at the apparent effect the religious right wing wackos in the US had on this film. I\'ve watched it 3 times and have ordered the books including the prequel. I loved the movie and salute the viewing public in the UK and the rest of the world who seem to have as well. Going by the box office receipts there I think it would be a waste to not produce the rest of the trilogy. Oh and by the way I\'m not an atheist but I have no use for religious organizations that fear for loss of control over their minions.

There's a Prequel? What's the name of it? Actually I thought the author might continue writing the next set of trilogies to further the story in His Dark Material... I live in Singapore, I'm brought up in racial and religious harmony. However even christianity is trying aggressively to increase the number of christians. Ask yourself, what good is it to force belief in Jesus and the god / creator? Pointless. Best of all, christianity preaches that he who does not believe in him is sinning and will be condemned to hell. Sorry it does not appeal to me and I personally find it rather offending, like only god exists but not other religious gods / beliefs.

Title of the prequel is "Once Upon a Time in the North"

You know, I just spent a good load of time reading all your posts *laughs* and its quite entertaining in itself, really. Thanks to everyone who's posted. It's a good time. Now to what I have to say:

I'm sure the reason the film bonked in the US is because people have been scared of the idea that the trilogy will eventually foretell the termination of the Authority. **SPOILER ALERT** It's true. The Authority does meet His end. I've read the books and love them, and I am also a confirmed and very pious Catholic. What people seem to be missing, but what I'm sure the sequel films will play out to enormity, is the story that foretells this girl's coming of age. It's all about growing up and gaining experience! Look at Nicole Kidman's portrayal of Marisa Coulter, for example: She captures the overwhelming sensuality of the character and that is the EXPERIENCE that accompanies growing up. When Will Parry comes into the tale, thats when the maturation of Lyra begins, because she comes into contact with a boy whom she fancies. Thats all folks. It's the most beautiful coming of age story I can think of. And Dust clearly comes from the creation of sin through knowledge from Adam and Eve (busting out the Catholicism), but the books clearly illustrate that the world(s) of Lyra and Will have created Churches which are seeking to bring Heaven to Earth! Blasphemy there! So by overthrowing the Magisterium/Church, Lyra is acting in the way of an imprisoned Authority/God and, in fact, in the books she sets him free!!! So please, read these posts and have a good chuckle because in the end, all this rubbish is just thousands of pages of a fantasy trilogy. If you're looking to get hot and bothered in a religious way, I suggest the films Cruel Intentions, The Age of Innocence and The Magdalene Sisters.

Cheers all.

LOL The Golden Compass was the greatest film after The Lord of The Rings. I have the film on DVD and see it 600times and is not badder^^.

and with religion, the film and the books in my opinion, little intervention. It is ledeglich by an almighty talk. But we were certainly times what sensible people already believe that, for example, the Bible or the Torah tells the truth? Both were written by people and are close to our present stories to compare. I personally do not believe one of the two agrees.