Protesters rage at higher education fees

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SCORES of students and lecturers protested against higher education minister David Willetts when he visited Oxford on Friday.

Mr Willetts, inset, took part in a symposium on politics and language alongside columnist Polly Toynbee, TV presenter Andrew Marr and former chief civil servant Gus O’Donnell.

Protesters said between 180 and 200 students and lecturers, angry about the Government’s higher education policies, lobbied the event at St Peter’s College, New Inn Hall Street, following a no-confidence vote in the minister by lecturers and students in June 2011.

One of the protesters, fine art student John Scott, left, said: “I was delighted to see his speech was cut short by the noise from the protest outside.

“We believe that David Willetts’s policies are socially divisive and aimed at promoting inequality.

“Willetts and the Government want to keep Oxford and other top universities for the rich by using debt and higher fees to discourage working class students.

“We believe in an education system open to all, not just those lucky enough to attend private schools.”

No-one from Mr Willetts’ office was available for comment.

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2:45pm Mon 12 Nov 12

CowleyBoy says...

Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?
Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree? CowleyBoy
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4:06pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Sid Hunt says...

CowleyBoy wrote:
Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?
Good question.
[quote][p][bold]CowleyBoy[/bold] wrote: Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?[/p][/quote]Good question. Sid Hunt
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4:19pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Pavinder Msvarensy says...

Because without him, who is going to tell us that Munch's The Scream is worth nearly £100,000,000, his skills once he gets his degree will be vital to, err...???
Because without him, who is going to tell us that Munch's The Scream is worth nearly £100,000,000, his skills once he gets his degree will be vital to, err...??? Pavinder Msvarensy
  • Score: -103

5:29pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Pavinder Msvarensy says...

only -64, you can do better than that. What a major troll you are following my every word, in fact it is very flattering that you go to all the trouble to find my posts and then use your time (and software) to vote me down. At the moment I am going for the -200 vote as nobody as hit that yet, not even Bart. Please oblige.
only -64, you can do better than that. What a major troll you are following my every word, in fact it is very flattering that you go to all the trouble to find my posts and then use your time (and software) to vote me down. At the moment I am going for the -200 vote as nobody as hit that yet, not even Bart. Please oblige. Pavinder Msvarensy
  • Score: -65

5:36pm Mon 12 Nov 12

carfax cabby ox1 says...

Pavinder Msvarensy wrote:
only -64, you can do better than that. What a major troll you are following my every word, in fact it is very flattering that you go to all the trouble to find my posts and then use your time (and software) to vote me down. At the moment I am going for the -200 vote as nobody as hit that yet, not even Bart. Please oblige.
Not to worry Parvinder, I get this all the time, he must hate Cabbies as well
[quote][p][bold]Pavinder Msvarensy[/bold] wrote: only -64, you can do better than that. What a major troll you are following my every word, in fact it is very flattering that you go to all the trouble to find my posts and then use your time (and software) to vote me down. At the moment I am going for the -200 vote as nobody as hit that yet, not even Bart. Please oblige.[/p][/quote]Not to worry Parvinder, I get this all the time, he must hate Cabbies as well carfax cabby ox1
  • Score: -81

5:45pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Lord Palmerstone says...

"One of the protesters, fine art student John Scott, left, said: “I was delighted to see his speech was cut short by the noise from the protest outside"
Very positive-and far better than rational debate.But reading the drivel he then spouts suggests that an education, rather than the rehashing of the empty cliches of the 1960's, would benefit this particular young person.
"One of the protesters, fine art student John Scott, left, said: “I was delighted to see his speech was cut short by the noise from the protest outside" Very positive-and far better than rational debate.But reading the drivel he then spouts suggests that an education, rather than the rehashing of the empty cliches of the 1960's, would benefit this particular young person. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: -4

9:50pm Mon 12 Nov 12

Christine Hovis says...

Mr Scott is quoted as providing a series of exciting slogans that don't make sense. Mr Willetts isn't planning to exclude anyone, it's just that his market plans will have that effect.

It's nearly the same as Mr Scott not really have wanted to disrupt a symposium on politics and language, but he and his cohort had that effect.
Mr Scott is quoted as providing a series of exciting slogans that don't make sense. Mr Willetts isn't planning to exclude anyone, it's just that his market plans will have that effect. It's nearly the same as Mr Scott not really have wanted to disrupt a symposium on politics and language, but he and his cohort had that effect. Christine Hovis
  • Score: 0

11:10pm Mon 12 Nov 12

OxTownMan says...

CowleyBoy wrote:
Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?
Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people.

I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life.

those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories.
[quote][p][bold]CowleyBoy[/bold] wrote: Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?[/p][/quote]Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people. I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life. those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories. OxTownMan
  • Score: 1

1:03am Tue 13 Nov 12

Tekfur says...

Pavinder Msvarensy wrote:
Because without him, who is going to tell us that Munch's The Scream is worth nearly £100,000,000, his skills once he gets his degree will be vital to, err...???
so art is all about auction prices? clearly you're judging others by your own standard
[quote][p][bold]Pavinder Msvarensy[/bold] wrote: Because without him, who is going to tell us that Munch's The Scream is worth nearly £100,000,000, his skills once he gets his degree will be vital to, err...???[/p][/quote]so art is all about auction prices? clearly you're judging others by your own standard Tekfur
  • Score: 2

7:24am Tue 13 Nov 12

Lord Palmerstone says...

OxTownMan wrote:
CowleyBoy wrote:
Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?
Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people.

I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life.

those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories.
Oh please. You're as gullible as Scott. If people like you keep on spouting nonsense from the 19th century at least educated youngsters will get jobs while you'll go on persuading yourself it's all a conspiracy against unmotivated people like yourself.
[quote][p][bold]OxTownMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CowleyBoy[/bold] wrote: Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?[/p][/quote]Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people. I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life. those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories.[/p][/quote]Oh please. You're as gullible as Scott. If people like you keep on spouting nonsense from the 19th century at least educated youngsters will get jobs while you'll go on persuading yourself it's all a conspiracy against unmotivated people like yourself. Lord Palmerstone
  • Score: -1

10:35pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Revolutionary but gangsta says...

Because the creative industries bring in as much as the financial sector to the UK's economy...
Because the creative industries bring in as much as the financial sector to the UK's economy... Revolutionary but gangsta
  • Score: -4

11:39pm Tue 13 Nov 12

Lord Brockway says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
OxTownMan wrote:
CowleyBoy wrote:
Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?
Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people.

I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life.

those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories.
Oh please. You're as gullible as Scott. If people like you keep on spouting nonsense from the 19th century at least educated youngsters will get jobs while you'll go on persuading yourself it's all a conspiracy against unmotivated people like yourself.
Oh please, "Lord" Palmerston, if you only would stop living in the 19th century yourself (though I believed you were already dead). Your brand of reactionary claptrap has no place in these modern times. If you truly believe in the Victorian concept of the deserving and undeserving poor, then you're in the wrong century. Any intelligent person can see that people are born into a variety of social and economic situations and this should never preclude their ability to live an interesting and fulfilling life. OxTownMan's prescient comment demonstrates how far removed our society is from that and I would rather you kept your bigoted opinions to yourself.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OxTownMan[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]CowleyBoy[/bold] wrote: Will someone give me a good reason why my tax money should pay for John Scott's "Fine Arts" degree?[/p][/quote]Don't be a fool - everyday people like us don't have to pay. Theres more than enough wealth to pay for every to go to university - its just its all owned by a very small elite of people. I for one support the ideals of the students - especially Mr Scott. Only 7% of the population goes to a private school and yet they take 50% of universities places. Thats not a fair system. Everyone, regardless of the wealth of their parents should have the opportunity to learn and progress in life. those of us that struggle at the moment on do so because the wealth we create is stolen by bankers and investors and tories.[/p][/quote]Oh please. You're as gullible as Scott. If people like you keep on spouting nonsense from the 19th century at least educated youngsters will get jobs while you'll go on persuading yourself it's all a conspiracy against unmotivated people like yourself.[/p][/quote]Oh please, "Lord" Palmerston, if you only would stop living in the 19th century yourself (though I believed you were already dead). Your brand of reactionary claptrap has no place in these modern times. If you truly believe in the Victorian concept of the deserving and undeserving poor, then you're in the wrong century. Any intelligent person can see that people are born into a variety of social and economic situations and this should never preclude their ability to live an interesting and fulfilling life. OxTownMan's prescient comment demonstrates how far removed our society is from that and I would rather you kept your bigoted opinions to yourself. Lord Brockway
  • Score: 0

5:28pm Wed 14 Nov 12

Pavinder Msvarensy says...

Tekfur, you may have a degree in fine art, but unfortunately you also gained a sense of humour by-pass at the same time, has it never occurred to you that may be the reason why us mere plebs take the p
Tekfur, you may have a degree in fine art, but unfortunately you also gained a sense of humour by-pass at the same time, has it never occurred to you that may be the reason why us mere plebs take the p Pavinder Msvarensy
  • Score: -44

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