Oxford United's boycott warning

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OXFORD United have been warned they risk a fan boycott after signing controversial goalkeeper Luke McCormick.

The former Plymouth Arglye stopper was sentenced to more than seven years after admitting killing two children while drink-driving in 2008.

Fans voted with their feet at his previous club Truro City and avoided games while McCormick was at the club.

Truro chairman Peter Masters, said the club came under substantial criticism for taking him on and it proved “costly”.

Now fears have been raised that the U’s could suffer a similar fate.

Oxford resident Tony Fallows said he thought his fellow fans would turn away in their droves.

The 25-year-old, who has been attending games since 1996, said: “There is definitely a downbeat feeling around the club at the moment and this could be something which makes fans’ minds up to not come back for a while.”

John Jefferies, from Binsey, added: “I like to think that we, as a club, have always garnered respect from other clubs for trying to do things right, this jeopardises our reputation.”

U’’s supporters trust OxVox said the signing was emotive.

Their statement said: “While it’s fair to say he has served his sentence and has every right to seek employment, we appreciate that fans may have a split view on him signing.”

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9:51am Sat 2 Feb 13

BigAlBiker says...

Wilder has lost his marbles, we have a great prospect in Max Crocombe who performed well against Burton and a reserve keeper Wayne Brown, he lets Tyrone Marsh out on loan who again has played one scored one and is quick and young, and he was close to loaning Chapman out, then he brings in this joker proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he has to go, it is P45 time and the sooner the better.
Wilder has lost his marbles, we have a great prospect in Max Crocombe who performed well against Burton and a reserve keeper Wayne Brown, he lets Tyrone Marsh out on loan who again has played one scored one and is quick and young, and he was close to loaning Chapman out, then he brings in this joker proving beyond a shadow of a doubt he has to go, it is P45 time and the sooner the better. BigAlBiker
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11:24am Sat 2 Feb 13

Manor Born says...

On the day the chairman announces losses of 450k and pleads with supporters to get behind the club, they go and do this? A signing that only goes to discourage people from attending. If it is a matter of wages, then why did he sanction the Richards signing? A player who was deemed to be not good enough when we were in the Conference.

Richard's wages and this other player's wages, would have surely been enough to secure the services of a decent keeper with the right experience & without the baggage.

Marsh would gain far more from being involved with the first team week in week out and should have been given the opportunity over a previously tried and failed ex-loanee.

Lenagan comes out with this bull he only wants to sign players who will take us forward one minute, only to sign a player that takes us backwards the next. But that's ok, because he is cheap.

This club is morally bankrupt and it would appear that financially, we're not far off that either.
On the day the chairman announces losses of 450k and pleads with supporters to get behind the club, they go and do this? A signing that only goes to discourage people from attending. If it is a matter of wages, then why did he sanction the Richards signing? A player who was deemed to be not good enough when we were in the Conference. Richard's wages and this other player's wages, would have surely been enough to secure the services of a decent keeper with the right experience & without the baggage. Marsh would gain far more from being involved with the first team week in week out and should have been given the opportunity over a previously tried and failed ex-loanee. Lenagan comes out with this bull he only wants to sign players who will take us forward one minute, only to sign a player that takes us backwards the next. But that's ok, because he is cheap. This club is morally bankrupt and it would appear that financially, we're not far off that either. Manor Born
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11:30am Sat 2 Feb 13

Tony Fallows says...

I don't recall using the phrase "turn away in their droves". It could be the final straw for some wavering fans though.

However, for every fan that does boycott (there will be some) that's effectively the cost of Luke McCormick to OUFC. It's been claimed he is a cheap option, well he could turn out to be one of our most expensive signings ever!

I'm not comfortable with this, but would never turn my back on the club. We've made a mistake, I just hope it doesn't prove too costly.
I don't recall using the phrase "turn away in their droves". It could be the final straw for some wavering fans though. However, for every fan that does boycott (there will be some) that's effectively the cost of Luke McCormick to OUFC. It's been claimed he is a cheap option, well he could turn out to be one of our most expensive signings ever! I'm not comfortable with this, but would never turn my back on the club. We've made a mistake, I just hope it doesn't prove too costly. Tony Fallows
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2:31pm Sat 2 Feb 13

jasperwasp says...

before you start cheering him on .THINK that he killed two young kids .who could have a life today,
before you start cheering him on .THINK that he killed two young kids .who could have a life today, jasperwasp
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3:34pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Richard Wickson says...

Manor Born wrote:
On the day the chairman announces losses of 450k and pleads with supporters to get behind the club, they go and do this? A signing that only goes to discourage people from attending. If it is a matter of wages, then why did he sanction the Richards signing? A player who was deemed to be not good enough when we were in the Conference.

Richard's wages and this other player's wages, would have surely been enough to secure the services of a decent keeper with the right experience & without the baggage.

Marsh would gain far more from being involved with the first team week in week out and should have been given the opportunity over a previously tried and failed ex-loanee.

Lenagan comes out with this bull he only wants to sign players who will take us forward one minute, only to sign a player that takes us backwards the next. But that's ok, because he is cheap.

This club is morally bankrupt and it would appear that financially, we're not far off that either.
I agree with every word, while its accepted he has served the sentence handed down in a court of law and also has to live with what he did every day for the rest of his life, 3 and a half years for two young lives is pretty cheap. Yes you could say he deserves a second chance but sweeping roads or emptying bins not getting a decent wage for playing football. I have supported this wonderful club since 1960 and did go to a handful of games before that but whats going on at the club presently does make me wonder if the management and board of directors deserve the support the fans give them? The players in the main do but i seriously believe many fans, particularly those who take young children to games will now take a long hard look at the situation. Expect a backlash Messrs. Lenaghan and Wilder. The supporters deserve better.
[quote][p][bold]Manor Born[/bold] wrote: On the day the chairman announces losses of 450k and pleads with supporters to get behind the club, they go and do this? A signing that only goes to discourage people from attending. If it is a matter of wages, then why did he sanction the Richards signing? A player who was deemed to be not good enough when we were in the Conference. Richard's wages and this other player's wages, would have surely been enough to secure the services of a decent keeper with the right experience & without the baggage. Marsh would gain far more from being involved with the first team week in week out and should have been given the opportunity over a previously tried and failed ex-loanee. Lenagan comes out with this bull he only wants to sign players who will take us forward one minute, only to sign a player that takes us backwards the next. But that's ok, because he is cheap. This club is morally bankrupt and it would appear that financially, we're not far off that either.[/p][/quote]I agree with every word, while its accepted he has served the sentence handed down in a court of law and also has to live with what he did every day for the rest of his life, 3 and a half years for two young lives is pretty cheap. Yes you could say he deserves a second chance but sweeping roads or emptying bins not getting a decent wage for playing football. I have supported this wonderful club since 1960 and did go to a handful of games before that but whats going on at the club presently does make me wonder if the management and board of directors deserve the support the fans give them? The players in the main do but i seriously believe many fans, particularly those who take young children to games will now take a long hard look at the situation. Expect a backlash Messrs. Lenaghan and Wilder. The supporters deserve better. Richard Wickson
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4:15pm Sat 2 Feb 13

BenkiuGuasu says...

He has served his time and needs to get on with his own life and career. Welcome to the club.
He has served his time and needs to get on with his own life and career. Welcome to the club. BenkiuGuasu
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8:45pm Sat 2 Feb 13

Richard Wickson says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
He has served his time and needs to get on with his own life and career. Welcome to the club.
Its lovely you have such a quaint old fashioned view, i wonder if you would if the children were related to you. i cannot share your view and certainly wont renew my season ticket or take in any more games either at home or away while this club that i have supported for over 50 years employs ex cons. i allowed myself to be swayed over Chapman but not this time.
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: He has served his time and needs to get on with his own life and career. Welcome to the club.[/p][/quote]Its lovely you have such a quaint old fashioned view, i wonder if you would if the children were related to you. i cannot share your view and certainly wont renew my season ticket or take in any more games either at home or away while this club that i have supported for over 50 years employs ex cons. i allowed myself to be swayed over Chapman but not this time. Richard Wickson
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10:10pm Sat 2 Feb 13

colin roberts says...

Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances.
Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances. colin roberts
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12:14am Sun 3 Feb 13

BenkiuGuasu says...

colin roberts wrote:
Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances.
Aye. His own demons will exceed anything any of us can throw at him. But he has served his time. Welcome to the club.
[quote][p][bold]colin roberts[/bold] wrote: Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances.[/p][/quote]Aye. His own demons will exceed anything any of us can throw at him. But he has served his time. Welcome to the club. BenkiuGuasu
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1:50am Sun 3 Feb 13

Manor Born says...

... And then he drove off leaving them all to die. He got into a car knowing he was unsafe and unfit to drive, he then caused a fatal a accident. He then proceeded to drive off without concern for his victims or for other road users who could just as easily become victims.

All through his trial his main concern was the damage he had done to his career and not the destruction he had caused to a young family.

I am all for giving people a second chance, but they have to earn that second chance and show some actual remorse.

This whole thing stinks. He should not have been given the privelige of wearing our shirt.
... And then he drove off leaving them all to die. He got into a car knowing he was unsafe and unfit to drive, he then caused a fatal a accident. He then proceeded to drive off without concern for his victims or for other road users who could just as easily become victims. All through his trial his main concern was the damage he had done to his career and not the destruction he had caused to a young family. I am all for giving people a second chance, but they have to earn that second chance and show some actual remorse. This whole thing stinks. He should not have been given the privelige of wearing our shirt. Manor Born
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2:25am Sun 3 Feb 13

BigCrompy says...

colin roberts wrote:
Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances.
You make it sound almost like a complete surprise. "Oooh...I'm going to have a couple of drinks...then a few more...then I wonder what'll happen if I get into this here car".

I for one may make many mistakes, but not THAT mistake - because I am not irresponsible, not folly and I don't feel bulletproof. I am well aware if I try to get into a car hammered then bad things will happen, and not due to personal experience.

Defend the guy if you will, but just please don't pass it off as 'a mistake' cos that implies that any of us could be narcissistic enough to do the same.
[quote][p][bold]colin roberts[/bold] wrote: Luke McCormick made a momentous mistake one that ended in horrific circumstances. Two children died because of his stupidity. Did he mean to kill anyone. no! The british justice system has deemed him to have paid his debt to society. The last thing he thinks about when he goes to sleep and the first thing he will think about when he awakes will be the regret and sorrow of his stupidity on that day. On top of that he will get chants from away fans of murderer! who is so perfect or so great that they can not see past giving this guy a second chance? he is a talented keeper and just wants to do the best he can in these sad circumstances.[/p][/quote]You make it sound almost like a complete surprise. "Oooh...I'm going to have a couple of drinks...then a few more...then I wonder what'll happen if I get into this here car". I for one may make many mistakes, but not THAT mistake - because I am not irresponsible, not folly and I don't feel bulletproof. I am well aware if I try to get into a car hammered then bad things will happen, and not due to personal experience. Defend the guy if you will, but just please don't pass it off as 'a mistake' cos that implies that any of us could be narcissistic enough to do the same. BigCrompy
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2:51am Sun 3 Feb 13

davecuddoufc says...

It's the last game of the season. We need three points to get into the play-offs. We're winning 1-0 with one minute left. They get a penalty - he saves it and we win 1-0. Do we cheer him and sing his name, or what..............? This will be said many more times; what would YOU think, if he'd have killed YOUR young children, whilst being drunk at the wheel. Don't just dismiss this as Cuddy having a rant............I'm a father of five children. Guess what I'd think if my kids were mown down by a drink - driver?
It's the last game of the season. We need three points to get into the play-offs. We're winning 1-0 with one minute left. They get a penalty - he saves it and we win 1-0. Do we cheer him and sing his name, or what..............? This will be said many more times; what would YOU think, if he'd have killed YOUR young children, whilst being drunk at the wheel. Don't just dismiss this as Cuddy having a rant............I'm a father of five children. Guess what I'd think if my kids were mown down by a drink - driver? davecuddoufc
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8:34am Sun 3 Feb 13

Doctor69 says...

Even the scum wouldn't sign him after fan pressure. We need to make our feelings towards this signing clear. LM is a child killer.
Even the scum wouldn't sign him after fan pressure. We need to make our feelings towards this signing clear. LM is a child killer. Doctor69
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5:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Southstandupper says...

The lad has made one terrible mistake which will never leave him. How many football fans go for a pint before a game eapecially away games then drive home I have seen many! how many ride their luck???? lots I know so we say there for the grace of god go I they don't get caught. This lad killed children but why tarnish one man why not slate every other drink driver who has killed people some children maybe some supporters in our club should we ban them? He has served his time, he will have nightmares for the rest of his life, but he now plays for our club at a wage we can afford. IF he proves his worth we will all support him and our club. If so called fans are so fickle as to want to stop supporting the team then are they real fans? Comeon you yellows you can still do it. Finally I see PDC is a typical Italian, no stomach for a fight (unless it iswith a ref) as he is reported to be considering his future hahahahahahaha.
The lad has made one terrible mistake which will never leave him. How many football fans go for a pint before a game eapecially away games then drive home I have seen many! how many ride their luck???? lots I know so we say there for the grace of god go I they don't get caught. This lad killed children but why tarnish one man why not slate every other drink driver who has killed people some children maybe some supporters in our club should we ban them? He has served his time, he will have nightmares for the rest of his life, but he now plays for our club at a wage we can afford. IF he proves his worth we will all support him and our club. If so called fans are so fickle as to want to stop supporting the team then are they real fans? Comeon you yellows you can still do it. Finally I see PDC is a typical Italian, no stomach for a fight (unless it iswith a ref) as he is reported to be considering his future hahahahahahaha. Southstandupper
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5:17pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Southstandupper says...

The lad has made one terrible mistake which will never leave him. How many football fans go for a pint before a game eapecially away games then drive home I have seen many! how many ride their luck???? lots I know so we say there for the grace of god go I they don't get caught. This lad killed children but why tarnish one man why not slate every other drink driver who has killed people some children maybe some supporters in our club should we ban them? He has served his time, he will have nightmares for the rest of his life, but he now plays for our club at a wage we can afford. IF he proves his worth we will all support him and our club. If so called fans are so fickle as to want to stop supporting the team then are they real fans? Comeon you yellows you can still do it. Finally I see PDC is a typical Italian, no stomach for a fight (unless it iswith a ref) as he is reported to be considering his future hahahahahahaha.
The lad has made one terrible mistake which will never leave him. How many football fans go for a pint before a game eapecially away games then drive home I have seen many! how many ride their luck???? lots I know so we say there for the grace of god go I they don't get caught. This lad killed children but why tarnish one man why not slate every other drink driver who has killed people some children maybe some supporters in our club should we ban them? He has served his time, he will have nightmares for the rest of his life, but he now plays for our club at a wage we can afford. IF he proves his worth we will all support him and our club. If so called fans are so fickle as to want to stop supporting the team then are they real fans? Comeon you yellows you can still do it. Finally I see PDC is a typical Italian, no stomach for a fight (unless it iswith a ref) as he is reported to be considering his future hahahahahahaha. Southstandupper
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6:46pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Brenda Jackson says...

Another hideous decision by those at the Club's helm. They should all consider handing in their resignations.

''Family Club of the Year'' ?

I'd rather we played Micky Lewis in goal than stoop so low as to sign someone guilty of killing two children, putting their father in a wheel chair for life, and destroying their immediate family.
Another hideous decision by those at the Club's helm. They should all consider handing in their resignations. ''Family Club of the Year'' ? I'd rather we played Micky Lewis in goal than stoop so low as to sign someone guilty of killing two children, putting their father in a wheel chair for life, and destroying their immediate family. Brenda Jackson
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7:38pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Beau champ mummy says...

We seem to b a club for every paedo and convict going
We seem to b a club for every paedo and convict going Beau champ mummy
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8:03pm Sun 3 Feb 13

Grunden Skip says...

Goodbye all you hundred fickle fans, hello League one, and thousands of new real fans. Brenda, so by your logic, nobody that has done a crime and done their time should ever work again. Just tell that to Archer, Aitken, and all those other Taody politicians, what about Adams who went on to Captain his country. I hope you never make a bad decision in your life, but if you do, I really hope that you are judged by your own standards.
Goodbye all you hundred fickle fans, hello League one, and thousands of new real fans. Brenda, so by your logic, nobody that has done a crime and done their time should ever work again. Just tell that to Archer, Aitken, and all those other Taody politicians, what about Adams who went on to Captain his country. I hope you never make a bad decision in your life, but if you do, I really hope that you are judged by your own standards. Grunden Skip
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7:52am Mon 4 Feb 13

greengarden says...

Brenda Jackson wrote:
Another hideous decision by those at the Club's helm. They should all consider handing in their resignations.

''Family Club of the Year'' ?

I'd rather we played Micky Lewis in goal than stoop so low as to sign someone guilty of killing two children, putting their father in a wheel chair for life, and destroying their immediate family.
so Brenda tell me what society should do when attempting to rehabilitate criminals. hang um, shoot em put them on them on benefits for rest of their lives, let them stave on the streets, stick them in a Victorian workhouse...... His crime was disgusting I agree, but under the law of the land he has served his time. God help us if you should ever make a terrible error of judgement with that view. I'm not defending McCormick, far from it, nor Chapman or any other drunk or mobile phone user driver that has killed innocent people (they are despicable people yes including Chapman)!!

My heart goes out to that family I cannot even begin to understand their pain and how they go about coping. But you tell me what do we with these people in a modern society when they have served their time under the law of land?? Perhaps both Chapman and McCormick should have stayed behind bars for life and don't tell me there is a difference between drink driving and txting because their isn't, both can KILL innocent people !!!
[quote][p][bold]Brenda Jackson[/bold] wrote: Another hideous decision by those at the Club's helm. They should all consider handing in their resignations. ''Family Club of the Year'' ? I'd rather we played Micky Lewis in goal than stoop so low as to sign someone guilty of killing two children, putting their father in a wheel chair for life, and destroying their immediate family.[/p][/quote]so Brenda tell me what society should do when attempting to rehabilitate criminals. hang um, shoot em put them on them on benefits for rest of their lives, let them stave on the streets, stick them in a Victorian workhouse...... His crime was disgusting I agree, but under the law of the land he has served his time. God help us if you should ever make a terrible error of judgement with that view. I'm not defending McCormick, far from it, nor Chapman or any other drunk or mobile phone user driver that has killed innocent people (they are despicable people yes including Chapman)!! My heart goes out to that family I cannot even begin to understand their pain and how they go about coping. But you tell me what do we with these people in a modern society when they have served their time under the law of land?? Perhaps both Chapman and McCormick should have stayed behind bars for life and don't tell me there is a difference between drink driving and txting because their isn't, both can KILL innocent people !!! greengarden
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9:17am Mon 4 Feb 13

Brenda Jackson says...

''so Brenda tell me what society should do when attempting to rehabilitate criminals. hang um, shoot em put them on them on benefits for rest of their lives, let them stave on the streets, stick them in a Victorian workhouse''

I'll tell you what society/Football SHOULDN'T do, allow people like LM who have committed such crimes back in the 'Public arena' -where young children look up to footballers (for instance) as role models. This to me is the cruxt of the matter.
I didn't agree with the signing of chapman either, but i do think there's a difference between someone doing an idiotic spur of the moment 'text' message while driving- and someone who drinks so much he's over twice the alcohol limit, refuses to stop driving
when pleaded to do so by a mate, and ploughs into a car whilst breaking the speed limit.
Yes, he's served his time, (whether it was an appropriate sentence is another matter) and should be allowed to work for a living, just not in the public eye.
''so Brenda tell me what society should do when attempting to rehabilitate criminals. hang um, shoot em put them on them on benefits for rest of their lives, let them stave on the streets, stick them in a Victorian workhouse'' I'll tell you what society/Football SHOULDN'T do, allow people like LM who have committed such crimes back in the 'Public arena' -where young children look up to footballers (for instance) as role models. This to me is the cruxt of the matter. I didn't agree with the signing of chapman either, but i do think there's a difference between someone doing an idiotic spur of the moment 'text' message while driving- and someone who drinks so much he's over twice the alcohol limit, refuses to stop driving when pleaded to do so by a mate, and ploughs into a car whilst breaking the speed limit. Yes, he's served his time, (whether it was an appropriate sentence is another matter) and should be allowed to work for a living, just not in the public eye. Brenda Jackson
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11:00am Mon 4 Feb 13

Southstandupper says...

Interesting comments Brenda. Does that mean just footballers or everyone in the public eye, sportsmen/women, actors, tv stars, media people, and anyone else who serves the public???? few opportunities left me thinks for anyone trying to rebuild a life if you have your way. LM has to live every second of everyday with his guilt, every time he walks on to the pitch he will suffer and whilst I am willing to give him a chance I can't say that I won't feel anger towards him. Lets all remember one thing, we are Oxford United Football Club fans, the club is bigger than anyone player or fan so get behind the club. Lets look at another point should we support a club who's success in the 1980's was built possibly on money stolen from peoples pension funds, remember Maxwell, we all thought he was our hero now should we not feel guilty for the thousands who lost their pensions to give us some good times ( and Derby). Whilst killing people through drink driving is a terrible crime,lets just think if it were a family member of ours in LMs situation, would we shun them???
Interesting comments Brenda. Does that mean just footballers or everyone in the public eye, sportsmen/women, actors, tv stars, media people, and anyone else who serves the public???? few opportunities left me thinks for anyone trying to rebuild a life if you have your way. LM has to live every second of everyday with his guilt, every time he walks on to the pitch he will suffer and whilst I am willing to give him a chance I can't say that I won't feel anger towards him. Lets all remember one thing, we are Oxford United Football Club fans, the club is bigger than anyone player or fan so get behind the club. Lets look at another point should we support a club who's success in the 1980's was built possibly on money stolen from peoples pension funds, remember Maxwell, we all thought he was our hero now should we not feel guilty for the thousands who lost their pensions to give us some good times ( and Derby). Whilst killing people through drink driving is a terrible crime,lets just think if it were a family member of ours in LMs situation, would we shun them??? Southstandupper
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1:11pm Mon 4 Feb 13

dafodils78 says...

Poor young lad
Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it?
Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!!
No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it.
I say give him a chance.
Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance. dafodils78
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1:19pm Mon 4 Feb 13

dafodils78 says...

And Young children may look up to Footballers, but they may never know what LM or AC did, unless being told by their Peers.
And Young children may look up to Footballers, but they may never know what LM or AC did, unless being told by their Peers. dafodils78
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1:44pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Brenda Jackson says...

dafodils78 wrote:
Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.
I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly?
[quote][p][bold]dafodils78[/bold] wrote: Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly? Brenda Jackson
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2:08pm Mon 4 Feb 13

dafodils78 says...

And If Luke McCormick, was your son or Relative would you want all this Negativity against him?

I think NOT!!

You are all Judging him, It aint Right!!
there are a lot of people out there that have done wrong, and are still trying to make things right.
Maybe given the chance - Luke is trying to do the same.

All of these Judgements are a waste of time, if they are not going to the right people, such as the Club itself.
And If Luke McCormick, was your son or Relative would you want all this Negativity against him? I think NOT!! You are all Judging him, It aint Right!! there are a lot of people out there that have done wrong, and are still trying to make things right. Maybe given the chance - Luke is trying to do the same. All of these Judgements are a waste of time, if they are not going to the right people, such as the Club itself. dafodils78
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2:50pm Mon 4 Feb 13

Grunden Skip says...

Brenda Jackson wrote:
dafodils78 wrote:
Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.
I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly?
Poor little Brenda, what about the thousands of families that have lost their children in Iraq, and still do in Afghanistan, due to being sent to their deaths by Blair, Brown and Cameron, they are killers as well. Should they be forced to work in Tesco on minimum wage. The Man done his crime, and paid his debt to society. He is now doing a job, and paying his taxes. All you have done is rant against him, so what is your suggestion? Hang him, Shoot him from the Upper Tier? Sorry love, but you need to look at the bigger picture, and not your bigoted stance on this minor matter in the great scheme of things. Go up to the JR at the next repatriation and decry the killers of our poor lads there, if you feel so strongly.
[quote][p][bold]Brenda Jackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dafodils78[/bold] wrote: Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly?[/p][/quote]Poor little Brenda, what about the thousands of families that have lost their children in Iraq, and still do in Afghanistan, due to being sent to their deaths by Blair, Brown and Cameron, they are killers as well. Should they be forced to work in Tesco on minimum wage. The Man done his crime, and paid his debt to society. He is now doing a job, and paying his taxes. All you have done is rant against him, so what is your suggestion? Hang him, Shoot him from the Upper Tier? Sorry love, but you need to look at the bigger picture, and not your bigoted stance on this minor matter in the great scheme of things. Go up to the JR at the next repatriation and decry the killers of our poor lads there, if you feel so strongly. Grunden Skip
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4:01pm Mon 4 Feb 13

dafodils78 says...

Me and 600+ fans went to Southend (Saturday) to watch our Team, a decent supporter Shook Luke McCormick's hand and everyone who were there to support Oxford United gave him a "clap" .. Of appreciation .. Because he was taking Control of what he is good at - Working as Our Goalie.
He has made a Huge Mistake in his Life and now trying to make it better.
Haters and Judger's aren't Real enough to comment, only on here.. sad really!
Me and 600+ fans went to Southend (Saturday) to watch our Team, a decent supporter Shook Luke McCormick's hand and everyone who were there to support Oxford United gave him a "clap" .. Of appreciation .. Because he was taking Control of what he is good at - Working as Our Goalie. He has made a Huge Mistake in his Life and now trying to make it better. Haters and Judger's aren't Real enough to comment, only on here.. sad really! dafodils78
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4:53pm Mon 4 Feb 13

35 year fan says...

wilder does have the reputation of not giving young players a chance, looks very hasty to have binned crocombe after one game for this guy. if he had had 4 or 5 games and was struggling then sure look at a loan signing but not one who looks certain to knock 500-1000 off home gates which comes to serious money.

lenigan was quoted again recently saying he and his sons dont think they need any more directors at the club. with respect guys this saga shows you are wrong about that.
wilder does have the reputation of not giving young players a chance, looks very hasty to have binned crocombe after one game for this guy. if he had had 4 or 5 games and was struggling then sure look at a loan signing but not one who looks certain to knock 500-1000 off home gates which comes to serious money. lenigan was quoted again recently saying he and his sons dont think they need any more directors at the club. with respect guys this saga shows you are wrong about that. 35 year fan
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7:13pm Mon 4 Feb 13

BenkiuGuasu says...

Every goalkeeper in the land needs to play games on loan at a lower division club before they are ready. Same applies to Crocombe.
Every goalkeeper in the land needs to play games on loan at a lower division club before they are ready. Same applies to Crocombe. BenkiuGuasu
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9:02am Tue 5 Feb 13

Richard Wickson says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
Every goalkeeper in the land needs to play games on loan at a lower division club before they are ready. Same applies to Crocombe.
You can't go any lower in the Football League than we are or have you forgotten which division we are in? This lad needs match time at our level not non league to really move him on, as we almost certainly can't make the play offs and hopefully won't get relegated Wilder should have pitched him in and as another poster suggested if after 5 or so games was struggling then we go for a loanee, he looks a prospect and I am sure will move on to greater things, our loss his gain, good luck Max,
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: Every goalkeeper in the land needs to play games on loan at a lower division club before they are ready. Same applies to Crocombe.[/p][/quote]You can't go any lower in the Football League than we are or have you forgotten which division we are in? This lad needs match time at our level not non league to really move him on, as we almost certainly can't make the play offs and hopefully won't get relegated Wilder should have pitched him in and as another poster suggested if after 5 or so games was struggling then we go for a loanee, he looks a prospect and I am sure will move on to greater things, our loss his gain, good luck Max, Richard Wickson
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9:15am Tue 5 Feb 13

Brenda Jackson says...

Grunden Skip wrote:
Brenda Jackson wrote:
dafodils78 wrote: Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.
I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly?
Poor little Brenda, what about the thousands of families that have lost their children in Iraq, and still do in Afghanistan, due to being sent to their deaths by Blair, Brown and Cameron, they are killers as well. Should they be forced to work in Tesco on minimum wage. The Man done his crime, and paid his debt to society. He is now doing a job, and paying his taxes. All you have done is rant against him, so what is your suggestion? Hang him, Shoot him from the Upper Tier? Sorry love, but you need to look at the bigger picture, and not your bigoted stance on this minor matter in the great scheme of things. Go up to the JR at the next repatriation and decry the killers of our poor lads there, if you feel so strongly.
Your username says it all.
[quote][p][bold]Grunden Skip[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Brenda Jackson[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]dafodils78[/bold] wrote: Poor young lad Receiving all this flack He did his time, maybe not enough for killing 2 young boys, but if he is good at his job, Why keep going on about it? Onna bout Ex-Cons, Chapman is one!! No matter what anyone says on here, Chris Wilder aint gonna change his mind, If you all slate the matter get over to the Kassam, make your point of view count. Say it to those who need to hear it. I say give him a chance.[/p][/quote]I sincerely hope you never have to endure and suffer like the parents of the '2 young boys' - but if you do would you be so flippant and prepared to forgive and forget, honestly?[/p][/quote]Poor little Brenda, what about the thousands of families that have lost their children in Iraq, and still do in Afghanistan, due to being sent to their deaths by Blair, Brown and Cameron, they are killers as well. Should they be forced to work in Tesco on minimum wage. The Man done his crime, and paid his debt to society. He is now doing a job, and paying his taxes. All you have done is rant against him, so what is your suggestion? Hang him, Shoot him from the Upper Tier? Sorry love, but you need to look at the bigger picture, and not your bigoted stance on this minor matter in the great scheme of things. Go up to the JR at the next repatriation and decry the killers of our poor lads there, if you feel so strongly.[/p][/quote]Your username says it all. Brenda Jackson
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11:07pm Tue 5 Feb 13

Bicester Ryan says...

When I said similar about Chapman I got slated for it. Now everyone is saying this about this keeper which I agree with but what is the difference. A man died in the Chapman incident and 2 childrn died in the LM incident. To me there is no difference both should never play football again.
Shame on OUFC.
I have never set foot at the kassam since Chapman came back and I am proud of that fact, morals and whats right comes above football. Shame its took alot of people a year or two to realise they have morals.
When I said similar about Chapman I got slated for it. Now everyone is saying this about this keeper which I agree with but what is the difference. A man died in the Chapman incident and 2 childrn died in the LM incident. To me there is no difference both should never play football again. Shame on OUFC. I have never set foot at the kassam since Chapman came back and I am proud of that fact, morals and whats right comes above football. Shame its took alot of people a year or two to realise they have morals. Bicester Ryan
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