Lenagan: unfair to judge Oxford United boss now (From Oxford Mail)

northampton yellow says...
9:57am Mon 1 Oct 12

Well mr lenegan you are not going 2sack mr wilder which i find a joke what happens tuesday when the gate wont reach 3 or 4,000 and sat aswell bout time we say what we got 2say about this farce

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AylesburyOx says...
10:01am Mon 1 Oct 12

Definitely not the news I wanted to read.

So essentially it's the same excuse as last year only we'll continue to be dire all season rather than just part of it.
Excuse on excuse on excuse - I'm sick of hearing about injuries; players get injured - deal with it!
Wilder and co. should be working with the fit players and getting them working as a unit. Those on the pitch are playing without a clue and without any sort of character that I would deem acceptable of anyone wearing an Oxford United shirt.
I will not be attending any further games this season. Honestly, this is hopeless and an insult to those of us who genuinely believed in Lenagan, Wilder, Lewis etc. We meet our end of the deal by paying a great deal of money to ‘the biggest club in league 2’ and in return all we get is false hope and broken promises.

Absolute shambles.

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martico1 says...
10:08am Mon 1 Oct 12

Well I'm not happy either and I paid my money too - but where is all this anger and bile getting us? IL has put HIS money into our club, and has business and sporting experience way beyond mine (and I suspect thart of most other posters). He is making reasoned judgements and not panic-driven hasty decisions. You can bet every penny that CW knows the score : if he went now who on the current staff is equipped to step in and do better?? Trust ILand believe

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WindsorYellow says...
10:33am Mon 1 Oct 12

Not back and fit by November, that's October dealt with then and we will be below Barnet in the table !!!!

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Open your eyes says...
10:36am Mon 1 Oct 12

Joke decision and rather surprising from the owner. His stated aim of promotion now look like nothing more than hollow words! He cannot expect, despite his "we're only 9 points from the top" to even contemplate a challenge with this man in charge and with a bunch of dispirited and genuinely unmotivated players.

The injury excuse once again rears it's head when we were told no more excuses. I had faith in Ian Lenagan until this morning and he has done nothing at all to manage and act in the wake of an awful six game period, which needs to be looked at over a longer period of time (since early February 2012 and the terrible Novembers we have every single year).

If he expects me to come and support that clown tomorrow night, he can think again.

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BigOx22 says...
10:41am Mon 1 Oct 12

It might be unfair to judge a manager who doesn't have a full squad but its up to the manager to use what he has and get the results. We will get relegated this year if something isn't sorted soon. I will still go up as I love the club and we need the fans to cheer on the lads as that is the only way we can get something out of these dire times. Tomorrow night won't be easy. Let me guess Jack Midson will score against the team who stupidly let him go!!!

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Marina Morris says...
11:41am Mon 1 Oct 12

No excuses from me - I'll be there to support my team.

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BigYellowScarf says...
12:12pm Mon 1 Oct 12

I’m sorry some of you are sick of hearing the excuse about injuries. D’you know what? I’m sick of reading posts that bizarrely think of injuries as excuses. INJURIES MATTER – IN A BIG WAY. You’re doing a job with crucial equipment missing. And the scale of the problem that Wilder’s been facing – and for a very long period now – would have taxed ANY manager. It’s been exceptional (in the words of Mickey Lewis “I’ve known nothing like it in my 30 years in the game”) and it’s amazing that some people just don’t get that.

As for the notion that the team are unmotivated – or, as some rumour-mongers darkly suggest without ever giving their source, “don’t get on with Wilder” and “he’s lost the dressing room” – there isn’t the SLIGHTEST evidence of this. Read Wayne Brown’s current piece (“Everybody’s playing for Chris… There are people outside the club who are trying to put a divide between us, but we’re one unit”) – you can disbelieve him if you want, but why would you want to? I see every reason to believe him. Yes, we all know there have been a couple of very poor performances, but it’s always blindingly obvious when teams are unmotivated and don’t want to play for a manager, and at no point has it ever looked like that AT ALL.

Fortunately most of the people I know DO understand the impact of the injury crisis, and DO see a team that’s working for the manager, and they, like me, will be voting with their feet and turning up tomorrow to support. Come on you yellows.

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YellowRose says...
12:38pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Completely agree with BigYellowScarf. Injuries are a reason, not an excuse. If you decide not to attend a match because you can't get your own way that's your loss and you aren't a true supporter. As for someone on the radio saying players don't like the way they are spoken to....it's not a nursery!!

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jbowling says...
12:47pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Very patronising attitude.

I think its time for true supporters to either demonstrate (see Bournemouth fans) or boycott games.

Drastic measure required - the bloke just isn't listening

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oldun says...
12:50pm Mon 1 Oct 12

IL - count those who are neither season nor away fans tomorrow.

Mind you, an Interest point might be folks expecting to see a record breaking 7th consecutive league defeat.

They will be disappointed - Wimbledon are poor - and

we will get at least a point. Hopefully 3. COYY

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oldun says...
12:50pm Mon 1 Oct 12

IL - count those who are neither season nor away fans tomorrow.

Mind you, an Interest point might be folks expecting to see a record breaking 7th consecutive league defeat.

They will be disappointed - Wimbledon are poor - and

we will get at least a point. Hopefully 3. COYY

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ox85 says...
1:05pm Mon 1 Oct 12

I find it amazing that people say they won't be attending because of the results. It seems a very childish attitude just because the chairman has a different viewpoint to you. I personally am undecided on whether Wilder has had his time, but it is apparent that we have lost some momentum and the football is becoming a bit stale. However, if there is one thing that was apparent from today's IL interview it is that he won't be pushed by fan pressure into making a decision on Wilder's future. It therefore seems to me that the only option tomorrow is to support the team as much as possible, because win or lose Wilder will still be the manager come Wednesday morning. I for one would rather see us 3 points better off and out of this run of form.

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Doctor69 says...
1:12pm Mon 1 Oct 12

IL has bottled it big time, i suspect its down to money.
The reality is, it may cost X amount to get shot of Wilder, BUT, it will cost an awful lot more when we are sucked into a relegation dog fight and the crowds drop.....lets not even think beoynd that now!

Wilder has clearly taken us as far as he can. He has assembled the squad. Its lop sided. 3 left backs, 1 right back? No pace in the middle of the park. Injury prone players (Dubes, Leven), lack of creativity, and a lack of goalscorers. the warning signs were there last season and injuries were blamed. Why were they not addressed over the summer?

The current run of form since the Swindon game (early March 2012) to today is appaling, its got to be pushing the worst in the league?

I understand injuries are mounting up, BUT why is this? We were told that fittness would be improved, investments would be made, and here we are again. Also, how many of the injured players would come into the team and actually turn us around?......

Will still be there tomorrow, but the support for the manager has gone for me. the sooner he goes the better.

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oldun says...
1:14pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Season tickets are always included. Apart from them and the Dons' fans, how many others will turn up - under 1500? Under 150?

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oldun says...
1:20pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Since March 28th - 12 points and 9 defeats from 15 league matches.

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Malkym says...
1:22pm Mon 1 Oct 12

IAN Lenagan has defended under-fire Chris Wilder, saying it would be "wrong and unfair" to judge the Oxford United manager with the number of injuries in the squad.

Equals the dreaded vote of confidence!!!

For whom the bell tolls - it tolls for thee "Gene" Wilder

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OUFC 4 EVA says...
2:13pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Why don't you all get a grip and start supporting your team (and its manager!) and try to give the players the motivation to give that little bit more and win a game? it's not all about Wilder and how bad he is, he can only pick a side from the squad he has available! How about the players take some of the blame for this as well?

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Patrick in Devon says...
2:26pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Injuries and loss of form are not uncommon - when they both coincide its bad. One has to ask, is the playing squad simply too small for an ambitious club? Perhaps thats the root of all the recent problems, and its the thing the Chairman is holding the purse strings on.

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Doctor69 says...
2:31pm Mon 1 Oct 12

OUFC 4 EVA wrote:
Why don't you all get a grip and start supporting your team (and its manager!) and try to give the players the motivation to give that little bit more and win a game? it's not all about Wilder and how bad he is, he can only pick a side from the squad he has available! How about the players take some of the blame for this as well?

its the managers squad, he knew the long term injuries and the shortcomings it had (lack of goals and a serious lack of pace and quality in the middle of the park).
The chairman isnt blameless, he holds the money, and it looks like he wont invest, like he wont bite the bullet and sack wilder.

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OUFC 4 EVA says...
2:57pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Doctor69 wrote:

OUFC 4 EVA wrote: Why don't you all get a grip and start supporting your team (and its manager!) and try to give the players the motivation to give that little bit more and win a game? it's not all about Wilder and how bad he is, he can only pick a side from the squad he has available! How about the players take some of the blame for this as well?
its the managers squad, he knew the long term injuries and the shortcomings it had (lack of goals and a serious lack of pace and quality in the middle of the park). The chairman isnt blameless, he holds the money, and it looks like he wont invest, like he wont bite the bullet and sack wilder.

if the manager goes to the chairman and asks for money to buy a better squad and gets nothing apart from a few loans then what can he do? all you "fans" need to get real and get behind your team!

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Doctor69 says...
3:20pm Mon 1 Oct 12

OUFC 4 EVA wrote:

Doctor69 wrote:

OUFC 4 EVA wrote: Why don't you all get a grip and start supporting your team (and its manager!) and try to give the players the motivation to give that little bit more and win a game? it's not all about Wilder and how bad he is, he can only pick a side from the squad he has available! How about the players take some of the blame for this as well?
its the managers squad, he knew the long term injuries and the shortcomings it had (lack of goals and a serious lack of pace and quality in the middle of the park). The chairman isnt blameless, he holds the money, and it looks like he wont invest, like he wont bite the bullet and sack wilder.
if the manager goes to the chairman and asks for money to buy a better squad and gets nothing apart from a few loans then what can he do? all you "fans" need to get real and get behind your team!

True, the Chairman does seem to be trying to work on a reduced budget. He also shouldn’t have stated that promotion is the aim before a ball was kicked if he knew we couldn’t compete financially. It sets fans expectations to high and then when sh!t hits the fan, we all moan.

However, Wilder needed to address the shortcomings in his squad over the summer.

For instance, Constable, Smalley, Cradock, Potter, JPP didn’t do it last season, why will they suddenly improve this season?.....So, let’s sign a forward, actually, no, lets sign Rigg!!
Another example, Heslop, the most unfit and un-mobile midfielder around, on a 3 year deal?
Another example, Leven. Classy player when (if ever) fit. Capable of scoring long rangers, but has never been truly fit since arriving and is surely a luxury at this level?

Truth is, Wilder signed these players, gave them the long contracts, or decided they didn’t need replacing in the summer after last season’s implosion. Therefore, he has to take accountability.
I firmly believe Wilders time was up at the end of last season, and the longer he stays, the more stale we will become.

I would love to be proved wrong, but I cannot see it happening. A mid table finish isn’t acceptable to me. Year on year progression should always be the aim so Play Offs, at a minimum should be the benchmark.

And a final point ‘fans like me’ are the ones who buy a season ticket every season, go to cup games at £20 extra per game, travel up and down the country to away games, I think we are entitled to our views on the state the club finds itself. BSP was no fun last time, and I for one fear we would never recover if it happens again.

[quote][p][bold]OUFC 4 EVA[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]OUFC 4 EVA[/bold] wrote: Why don't you all get a grip and start supporting your team (and its manager!) and try to give the players the motivation to give that little bit more and win a game? it's not all about Wilder and how bad he is, he can only pick a side from the squad he has available! How about the players take some of the blame for this as well?[/p][/quote]its the managers squad, he knew the long term injuries and the shortcomings it had (lack of goals and a serious lack of pace and quality in the middle of the park). The chairman isnt blameless, he holds the money, and it looks like he wont invest, like he wont bite the bullet and sack wilder.[/p][/quote]if the manager goes to the chairman and asks for money to buy a better squad and gets nothing apart from a few loans then what can he do? all you "fans" need to get real and get behind your team![/p][/quote]True, the Chairman does seem to be trying to work on a reduced budget. He also shouldn’t have stated that promotion is the aim before a ball was kicked if he knew we couldn’t compete financially. It sets fans expectations to high and then when sh!t hits the fan, we all moan. However, Wilder needed to address the shortcomings in his squad over the summer. For instance, Constable, Smalley, Cradock, Potter, JPP didn’t do it last season, why will they suddenly improve this season?.....So, let’s sign a forward, actually, no, lets sign Rigg!! Another example, Heslop, the most unfit and un-mobile midfielder around, on a 3 year deal? Another example, Leven. Classy player when (if ever) fit. Capable of scoring long rangers, but has never been truly fit since arriving and is surely a luxury at this level? Truth is, Wilder signed these players, gave them the long contracts, or decided they didn’t need replacing in the summer after last season’s implosion. Therefore, he has to take accountability. I firmly believe Wilders time was up at the end of last season, and the longer he stays, the more stale we will become. I would love to be proved wrong, but I cannot see it happening. A mid table finish isn’t acceptable to me. Year on year progression should always be the aim so Play Offs, at a minimum should be the benchmark. And a final point ‘fans like me’ are the ones who buy a season ticket every season, go to cup games at £20 extra per game, travel up and down the country to away games, I think we are entitled to our views on the state the club finds itself. BSP was no fun last time, and I for one fear we would never recover if it happens again. Doctor69

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oldun says...
3:43pm Mon 1 Oct 12

£175k (or at the very least £125k) for Constable was rejected by the club - unbelievable . The fact that he is then not thought good enough to start by Wilder - even more unbelievable. 442

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Micky Hazard says...
3:47pm Mon 1 Oct 12

MELTDOWN!!!! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Haven't laughed so much at you lot since Lingy's Leyton Orient side sent you back to your rightful place, ie non-league.

Yeh yeh I know - "We beat you!" etc etc........look where that's got you. Can't wait for the next instalment from the Kassam 'Fawlty Towers' Stadium.

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swalker260 says...
4:15pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Some of the fans in my opinon are turnibg this into a Blackburn type issue where the so called fans started a witch hunt against Keane which I thought was and still is a total disgrace.
It does nothing for the club and team yes it is not good but we all know that this situation could change, when we had won our first games and everything looked rosy nothing was heard get behind the team otherwise these comments will pour more pressure on the players which we do not need,confidence is inportant and that will come once we start winning and that will start with Tuesday.

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Adman says...
4:18pm Mon 1 Oct 12

I thought Lenagan spoke a lot of sense, and clearly is his own man. It always makes me smile when people come on this site and start complaining that the chairman isnt putting his hands in his pockets frequently enough. What right does anyone who pays £250 a year to watch their club have to criticise someone who has already funded the club to the sum of £650,000? Get real, it is not your club, you just support it. You dont have to deal with the real repurcussions of failure (or success!). The club need a little luck, and a couple of results and we will be back in the frey. It's dismal I know losing 6 in a row, and I am not convinced that we can really make the play offs after such a setback, but I think that once Whing and Chapman and a few others come back full time, we can still make some sort of showing this year.

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OxRoxBox says...
4:28pm Mon 1 Oct 12

We all love OUFC - patience has worn thin really. I was under the impression that significant investment had been made in the Injury prevention via improved fitness???? Are the boys being over trained perhaps and a bit like Lewis Hamilton's last race they were impressive in qualification, bolted from the start of the season and then a bit like Oxford Piston broke (or similar!) and they and he broke down?

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Doctor69 says...
4:40pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Adman wrote:
I thought Lenagan spoke a lot of sense, and clearly is his own man. It always makes me smile when people come on this site and start complaining that the chairman isnt putting his hands in his pockets frequently enough. What right does anyone who pays £250 a year to watch their club have to criticise someone who has already funded the club to the sum of £650,000? Get real, it is not your club, you just support it. You dont have to deal with the real repurcussions of failure (or success!). The club need a little luck, and a couple of results and we will be back in the frey. It's dismal I know losing 6 in a row, and I am not convinced that we can really make the play offs after such a setback, but I think that once Whing and Chapman and a few others come back full time, we can still make some sort of showing this year.

The owner (chairman) has bankrolled us a bit i know. Its a tough decision, spend out and possibly be succesful or watch the pennies and struggle but ultimately be sustainable. The trouble is the owner & chairman came out and said promotion was the aim.....to achieve this we need investment because we are not good enough.

Also, it is the fans club. Look at any team that goes into administration. the Chairman and owners walk away. Who is left, the fans. Who really suffers, the fans. Are you telling me if pompy go out of business the 20K fans are not going to suffer? Tiem for you to get real. Business carries risks.

Chapman and Whing will help, although Chappy has only missed 2 games? I still feel there is a massive lack of creativity and ultimately goals?

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BigOx22 says...
4:43pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Micky Hazard (real name or just trying to be like Eden Hazard?) Congratulations on knowing how to laugh. I laugh so much at your manager every day, what a complete C**T! We will turn things around. It's not the end of the world. I am just happy to support Oxford United. I would rather be braindead then support the scum! I will laugh at you lot when PDC rinses your money even more and you go into administration!

COYY

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Beau champ mummy says...
4:55pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Taxi for lenagan and his wasters

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adlibber says...
5:02pm Mon 1 Oct 12

I think the club is falling apart. Really don't understand Lenagan - he more or less said he expecting the club to in league One next season yet he's watching a team that would struggle in the Conference on current form. I agree with other posters on here it seems to be more about money than faith in the manager. Crowds will drop if this dire run continues. It feels like the daft days of Patto where blind faith by half the fans kept Patto in a job far longer than he deserved. I really think Wilder has lost the plot.

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kckidlington says...
6:06pm Mon 1 Oct 12

BigYellowScarf wrote:
I’m sorry some of you are sick of hearing the excuse about injuries. D’you know what? I’m sick of reading posts that bizarrely think of injuries as excuses. INJURIES MATTER – IN A BIG WAY. You’re doing a job with crucial equipment missing. And the scale of the problem that Wilder’s been facing – and for a very long period now – would have taxed ANY manager. It’s been exceptional (in the words of Mickey Lewis “I’ve known nothing like it in my 30 years in the game”) and it’s amazing that some people just don’t get that.

As for the notion that the team are unmotivated – or, as some rumour-mongers darkly suggest without ever giving their source, “don’t get on with Wilder” and “he’s lost the dressing room” – there isn’t the SLIGHTEST evidence of this. Read Wayne Brown’s current piece (“Everybody’s playing for Chris… There are people outside the club who are trying to put a divide between us, but we’re one unit”) – you can disbelieve him if you want, but why would you want to? I see every reason to believe him. Yes, we all know there have been a couple of very poor performances, but it’s always blindingly obvious when teams are unmotivated and don’t want to play for a manager, and at no point has it ever looked like that AT ALL.

Fortunately most of the people I know DO understand the impact of the injury crisis, and DO see a team that’s working for the manager, and they, like me, will be voting with their feet and turning up tomorrow to support. Come on you yellows.

At last someone with sense

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oldun says...
6:43pm Mon 1 Oct 12

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you put up with the continued long term mediocrity of 4th tier football . Most of my first 35 years (1961-96) of following United was great - 1960-61 non league 1995-96 - in what is now called the Championship - in between - six promotions. Rising to second tier through three promotions in the happy 60s. Championhips of the second tier , third tier (twice) and the Southern League twice. . League Cup won . League victories over Moanurenited, Chelsea Arsenal, City , Newcastle, Everton etc etc . I was (and my generation were ) so spoiled for most of 35 years (OK 1975 - 1981 was awful - but not as bad as now - Foley, Jeffrey, Tait, Taylor and the great Burton were relative superstars ) . Since 1996 - three relegations - just one promotion. Yep, I deserve some stick for saying that . I can't understand why some of you are not incandescent with rage (oh, what good what that do... ?) over the continued mediocrity. I admire your patience (not meant to be patronising - may you be rewarded)

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oldun says...
6:43pm Mon 1 Oct 12

It never ceases to amaze me how some of you put up with the continued long term mediocrity of 4th tier football . Most of my first 35 years (1961-96) of following United was great - 1960-61 non league 1995-96 - in what is now called the Championship - in between - six promotions. Rising to second tier through three promotions in the happy 60s. Championhips of the second tier , third tier (twice) and the Southern League twice. . League Cup won . League victories over Moanurenited, Chelsea Arsenal, City , Newcastle, Everton etc etc . I was (and my generation were ) so spoiled for most of 35 years (OK 1975 - 1981 was awful - but not as bad as now - Foley, Jeffrey, Tait, Taylor and the great Burton were relative superstars ) . Since 1996 - three relegations - just one promotion. Yep, I deserve some stick for saying that . I can't understand why some of you are not incandescent with rage (oh, what good what that do... ?) over the continued mediocrity. I admire your patience (not meant to be patronising - may you be rewarded)

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wend says...
7:30pm Mon 1 Oct 12

To all the detractors of OUFC - If they win tomorrow night, and I'm sure they will, I hope you eat your words. I've rarely seen such negativity in some of the comments posted recently. OU are not my team as I don't come from this area, being a former Watford FC season ticket holder; we have always been a bit of a yo-yo club but we are still supporters of our club no matter what div they are in. I disagree that 4th tier football is mediocre - I've seen mediocre football in every division where players are just going through the motions and have little or no passion. Lower tier may not be as skilful but it's no less exciting. As long as the players play with passion and a will to win, matches will always be good to watch. I enjoy watching non-league Oxford City and do not think there is anything mediocre about the football played at this level. Just support your club whatever division they play in. OU will gain confidence from your support but not from constant criticism.

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oldun says...
7:45pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Eating our words?? Winning at home to a relegation club - big deal . Eating our words for that , no way . Not saying we will win . COYY

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Beau champ mummy says...
8:06pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Wend stick to east Enders and making tea

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wend says...
9:08pm Mon 1 Oct 12

Beau champ mummy wrote:
Wend stick to east Enders and making tea

Oh dear a gender neanderthal - I've never watched eastenders. If you can't make a sensible comment don't make any. Shtum pal

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marathon2012 says...
11:34pm Mon 1 Oct 12

well its happening what is said in a past post would happen.
Jim Rosenthal gone Kelvin Thomas gone football gone to pot.
Lenagan has got what he wants Rugby at the kassam why would he put money in to the football when he has Premiership Rugby the only sport he really understands
This could be the demise of oxford as we know it. I hope not supported them for 50 years since i was a kid and i have not known it this bad went to the Rugby and who was there Lenagan make your own minds up.

COYY

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hawkeye1 says...
12:36am Tue 2 Oct 12

I have a bad feeling that tomorrows game will be loss number 7, probably lose = Oxford 1 Wimbledon 3, and if he plays then probably 2 goals from Midson, the knife is already in so he will just be there to turn it, I really hope I am wrong, but that is how much confidence I have left in our team.

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In_The_Nikon_Time says...
12:41am Tue 2 Oct 12

I always thought that TRUE fans supported their club through thick and thin. Yes voice your opinions, you are all entitled to them but, if you are a true supporter of Oxford United then get behind them. Nine points off the leaders at this stage of the season isn't a disaster, disappointing yes but turned around by a couple of successful results. I've never heard such pessimistic drivel from grown men. No one frog marches you to watch the games. Do you think this negativity motivates the players?

Most you thought Wilder was a god after the first 3 games, nothing has changed. Stability is the key to success.

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oldun says...
4:24am Tue 2 Oct 12

Lenagan is a Rugby League man !! United are now co tenants of the stadium!! He will have preferred little London Welsh to have stayed within the M25

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oldun says...
4:24am Tue 2 Oct 12

Lenagan is a Rugby League man !! United are now co tenants of the stadium!! He will have preferred little London Welsh to have stayed within the M25

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adlibber says...
7:06am Tue 2 Oct 12

Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.

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AylesburyOx says...
9:22am Tue 2 Oct 12

adlibber wrote:
Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.

As usual, you talk a lot of sense. Well said.

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Brenda Jackson says...
9:34am Tue 2 Oct 12

We're told by the Chairman Mr Lenagan
''I'll judge the manager when he has a full Squad to choose from'' - Like most of last season Mr Lenagan -When we were atrocious?
We have the same squad of players now
albeit many of them on the sick list, what makes the Chairman think that once they
are ready to return they will be suddenly much better players than last season?
I predict a 'mini revival' and we'll get four points out of the next two home matches, then the old habits will return- a pattern that will repeat itself, and we will just about, but only just, avoid the fall.
Talking of falling, when the inevitable happens and the gates fall, what's the betting the Chairman will be complaining about lack of support?
My answer would be, you have had tremendous support as a bottom tier football club- and what have you done to repay that support?
Served up dire, and losing 'football' in a souless stadium- did you really think you could hang on to 7/8,000 attendances?
Major changes are needed, not just managerial either imo.

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In_The_Nikon_Time says...
10:20am Tue 2 Oct 12

adlibber wrote:
Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.

9 points from the league leaders is FACT not rubbish. we are less than 2 months into the season so to talk of relegation IS Rubbish. I don't have "Blind Faith", I can see things are not right but, I support my team through thick and thin not just when things are going well. We all want to win every week but no matter who the manager is, it's never going to happen.

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OxRoxBox says...
10:42am Tue 2 Oct 12

Nikon - clearly your lens needs polishing! Just look at the run since March? Without the satisfaction of 3 victories over Swindon last season was almost a disaster - to snatch mid league mediocrity from the jaws of the play offs and instant promotion was dreadful.
This season is heading in a similar fashion.
Please polish your lens and see the clearer picture - your long lens should help you then realise that our form is on the wane and spiralling

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adlibber says...
12:19pm Tue 2 Oct 12

In_The_Nikon_Time wrote:

adlibber wrote:
Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.
9 points from the league leaders is FACT not rubbish. we are less than 2 months into the season so to talk of relegation IS Rubbish. I don't have "Blind Faith", I can see things are not right but, I support my team through thick and thin not just when things are going well. We all want to win every week but no matter who the manager is, it's never going to happen.

6 defeats on the bounce clearly fiction in your world yes?

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Doctor69 says...
1:17pm Tue 2 Oct 12

adlibber wrote:

In_The_Nikon_Time wrote:

adlibber wrote:
Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.
9 points from the league leaders is FACT not rubbish. we are less than 2 months into the season so to talk of relegation IS Rubbish. I don't have "Blind Faith", I can see things are not right but, I support my team through thick and thin not just when things are going well. We all want to win every week but no matter who the manager is, it's never going to happen.
6 defeats on the bounce clearly fiction in your world yes?

Yes we are only 9 points off the auto places....but are we really going to make them up, and stay constant over the course of the season not to drop further points? No way! The league winners will probably lose 6 games over the whole season.

As stated by myself, and several other posters, the run we are on, including end of last season is shocking. The 3 wins at the start of this season were a blip, thats all. I also dont belive that any fan who has been going for a number of seasons belived all our troubles were over 3 games into a new season.

3 points tonight is essential, because otherwise with Gillingham on saturday, and Port Vale the following Monday it could easily be no wins in 9

[quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]In_The_Nikon_Time[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]adlibber[/bold] wrote: Those defending Wilder and his fabulous achievements this season so far plus his spectacular avoidance of a certain play off spot last season - I hope your blind faith is rewarded with success. For the rest of us well we're only basing our doubt on many years of abject failure cheap fixes average players and managers that have one trick often overused in readiness for the next hapless Plan A specialist to take over. As for injuries as an excuse how do other teams cope better? Remembering laughing at our mighty team playing minnows like Crawley - look what happened to them eh - lost their manager brought in an unknown and hey look their still doing well. As for the 'we're only 9 pts from top of table' rubbish no one is mentioning that we're only 5pts from relegation and given our last 6 performances I'm guessing the part of the table we'll be most fond of is the bottom bit. Lenagan is not interested in football.[/p][/quote]9 points from the league leaders is FACT not rubbish. we are less than 2 months into the season so to talk of relegation IS Rubbish. I don't have "Blind Faith", I can see things are not right but, I support my team through thick and thin not just when things are going well. We all want to win every week but no matter who the manager is, it's never going to happen.[/p][/quote]6 defeats on the bounce clearly fiction in your world yes?[/p][/quote]Yes we are only 9 points off the auto places....but are we really going to make them up, and stay constant over the course of the season not to drop further points? No way! The league winners will probably lose 6 games over the whole season. As stated by myself, and several other posters, the run we are on, including end of last season is shocking. The 3 wins at the start of this season were a blip, thats all. I also dont belive that any fan who has been going for a number of seasons belived all our troubles were over 3 games into a new season. 3 points tonight is essential, because otherwise with Gillingham on saturday, and Port Vale the following Monday it could easily be no wins in 9 Doctor69

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In_The_Nikon_Time says...
6:36pm Tue 2 Oct 12

adlibber wrote:

"6 defeats on the bounce clearly fiction in your world yes?"

Your words not mine, fortunately I live in the real world and I can speak for myself. Yes its a FACT we have lost 6 on the bounce we well may lose more. My post is and was about getting behind and supporting my team - Oxford United. You are absolutely entitled to your opinion as I am mine, neither is more valid than the other.

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oldun says...
6:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

9 defeats on the bounce - close to an all time league record for ANY LEAGUE club!!

Severely struggling teams at any level above parks pitch will draw two or three of any nine matches

seven in a row can't happen - a new club record for United - impossible - Dons are struggling

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oldun says...
6:57pm Tue 2 Oct 12

9 defeats on the bounce - close to an all time league record for ANY LEAGUE club!!

Severely struggling teams at any level above parks pitch will draw two or three of any nine matches

seven in a row can't happen - a new club record for United - impossible - Dons are struggling

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oldun says...
9:48pm Tue 2 Oct 12

glad for you loyal spectators - 3 points is 3 points - now win on Sat - COYY - United will play much better now that the worst pressure is off - 442 CW

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