We went out with a whimper, says Oxford chairman Thomas

Peter Leven sums up the feeling shared by Oxford United’s players, management, staff and fans after their play-off dream ended at Port Vale on Saturday

Peter Leven sums up the feeling shared by Oxford United’s players, management, staff and fans after their play-off dream ended at Port Vale on Saturday

First published in Sport Oxford Mail: Photograph of the Author by , Chief Sports Reporter covering Oxford United. Follow us on twitter: @oxfordmailoufc. Call me on 01865 425458

Oxford United chairman Kelvin Thomas will be looking to help recruit some “stronger” players during the summer in a bid to avoid a repeat of this season’s disappointing finish.

A 3-0 defeat at Port Vale on the final day extended United’s winless run to seven games – with only rock bottom Macclesfield Town below them in the npower League Two’s form table during the run-in.

It saw the U’s blow a four-point cushion over Crewe Alexandra, whose 16-game unbeaten run saw them finish four points in front to set up a play-off semi-final against Southend United.

Thomas, who felt performances earlier in the season were worthy of a side heading for automatic promotion, was dejected with the way the season panned out.

“We’re all disappointed with the way we’ve finished and (against Port Vale) we went out with a bit of a whimper, so we’ve got to put that right,” he said.

“This is a setback really and we’ve got to see how we come back from it.

“We’ve got to find some stronger players who can finish the season off better.”

The U’s chief stressed it was important not to over-react and did not expect wholesale changes to the playing staff during the close season.

Thomas will be meeting manager Chris Wilder this week to begin the task of learning from the season to make sure improvements are made in time for the new campaign.

He said: “We’ve got to be fitter and stronger.

“We’ve had too many injuries and we’ve got to look at the department as a whole, from the playing side and look at how to improve.

“I think over the last seven or eight games the performances haven’t been terrible, but we haven’t scored when we needed to and I don’t think we’ve finished strongly enough, that’s plain to see.

“We are low and hurting as a football club. But we will be positive, this isn’t a case of clearing everything out and starting again.

“We’ve improved on last season – not by enough – but we have to use those experiences to get better.”

l Port Vale v United match report: Pages 38-39 l More reaction: Page 37 l The four games United will rue: Page 36

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9:23am Mon 7 May 12

BigAlBiker says...

Yes we have improved, but not by much, and nowhere near what the loyal fans expect, I don't like losing but when you play as bad as we do sometimes then it's frustrating, 433 is not the way to play and yes Kelvin realises we need fitter, stronger faster players, perhaps he might wise up and give CW his P45 as in my opinion his tactics are flawed.
Yes we have improved, but not by much, and nowhere near what the loyal fans expect, I don't like losing but when you play as bad as we do sometimes then it's frustrating, 433 is not the way to play and yes Kelvin realises we need fitter, stronger faster players, perhaps he might wise up and give CW his P45 as in my opinion his tactics are flawed. BigAlBiker
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9:41am Mon 7 May 12

sprouts says...

So if I get this right, Kelvin's main concerns are: selection of players, fitness, tactics (= not "finished strongly enough").

Well, that's not the players' fault, is it? So, who else, ...
So if I get this right, Kelvin's main concerns are: selection of players, fitness, tactics (= not "finished strongly enough"). Well, that's not the players' fault, is it? So, who else, ... sprouts
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10:02am Mon 7 May 12

dave from witney says...

I suppose this means Wilder is staying, too expensive to get rid of him. Not sure I agree with BigAl that we have seen an improvement this year, apart from the odd flash of determination it's been pretty uninspiring. The strikers, with the exception of Hall during his loan spell have never got it together and the least said about the other loanees the better.
I suppose this means Wilder is staying, too expensive to get rid of him. Not sure I agree with BigAl that we have seen an improvement this year, apart from the odd flash of determination it's been pretty uninspiring. The strikers, with the exception of Hall during his loan spell have never got it together and the least said about the other loanees the better. dave from witney
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10:10am Mon 7 May 12

Brenda Jackson says...

''I think over the last seven or eight games the performances haven’t been terrible, but we haven’t scored when we needed to and I don’t think we’ve finished strongly enough, that’s plain to see''

'Haven't been terrible' ? i can think of one or two at least i could describe as 'terrible' - Problem is, when you're manager or Chairman of a Club it's in your interests to Promote it, and there's little in Kelvins statement that inspires me or convinces me next season will be significantly better. If you want to shift some season tickets there needs to be a 'statement of intent' and to do that we need a few 'marque signings' on contracts, not on loan mercenries or young lads!!
''I think over the last seven or eight games the performances haven’t been terrible, but we haven’t scored when we needed to and I don’t think we’ve finished strongly enough, that’s plain to see'' 'Haven't been terrible' ? i can think of one or two at least i could describe as 'terrible' - Problem is, when you're manager or Chairman of a Club it's in your interests to Promote it, and there's little in Kelvins statement that inspires me or convinces me next season will be significantly better. If you want to shift some season tickets there needs to be a 'statement of intent' and to do that we need a few 'marque signings' on contracts, not on loan mercenries or young lads!! Brenda Jackson
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10:22am Mon 7 May 12

Joe1 says...

It would also great to hear from our Chairman what is happening about obtaining the Stadium?
It would also great to hear from our Chairman what is happening about obtaining the Stadium? Joe1
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10:46am Mon 7 May 12

sprouts says...

dave from witney wrote:
I suppose this means Wilder is staying, too expensive to get rid of him. Not sure I agree with BigAl that we have seen an improvement this year, apart from the odd flash of determination it's been pretty uninspiring. The strikers, with the exception of Hall during his loan spell have never got it together and the least said about the other loanees the better.
Yes, I think you're right. You can really sense in KT's quotes how he is walking a tightrope. His concerns are clearly with issues that are the responsibility of the management team. On the other hand, he is obviously struggling to not draw the obvious conclusions. That's a tough position to be in.
[quote][p][bold]dave from witney[/bold] wrote: I suppose this means Wilder is staying, too expensive to get rid of him. Not sure I agree with BigAl that we have seen an improvement this year, apart from the odd flash of determination it's been pretty uninspiring. The strikers, with the exception of Hall during his loan spell have never got it together and the least said about the other loanees the better.[/p][/quote]Yes, I think you're right. You can really sense in KT's quotes how he is walking a tightrope. His concerns are clearly with issues that are the responsibility of the management team. On the other hand, he is obviously struggling to not draw the obvious conclusions. That's a tough position to be in. sprouts
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10:47am Mon 7 May 12

OX3 says...

I think we need a clear out and get some players in that will perform for the whole season and that are proven players of good quality. I do not have much faith in wilder getting the right players in as this season has shown with his loan signings etc also don't have faith in wilders tactics in games put it this way I don't have much faith left in wilder I hope he proves me wrong but can't see it. What I can see coming is wilder signing a bunch of loan players and only 1 or 2 or them will be decent and the rest will go missing in action. And as for the stadium I'm not even gonna go there on that one.
I think we need a clear out and get some players in that will perform for the whole season and that are proven players of good quality. I do not have much faith in wilder getting the right players in as this season has shown with his loan signings etc also don't have faith in wilders tactics in games put it this way I don't have much faith left in wilder I hope he proves me wrong but can't see it. What I can see coming is wilder signing a bunch of loan players and only 1 or 2 or them will be decent and the rest will go missing in action. And as for the stadium I'm not even gonna go there on that one. OX3
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10:47am Mon 7 May 12

AylesburyOx says...

Sorry that's just a f*cking insult to loyal Oxford fans - Thomas and Wilder get over yourselves you are not bigger than the club and certainly not the week-in week-out mugs like myself who pay your wages!

'performances haven't been terrible'
What planet are you on?! They've been rubbish since since the turn of the new year and the last time I can say I saw Oxford perform with any real conviction (Swindon game aside) was AFC Wimbledon away.
I expect better than 'not been terrible' in fact I expect 100% from you, the coaching staff, chairman and players. It costs me and fellow Oxford fans thousands of pounds a season in ticket money, petrol, food and drink, programmes and giving money to the club for things like the 12th man to be presented with performances like Port Vale, Torquay, Gillingham, Morecambe - essential, winnable games and what happens? Excuse on excuse.
I want 100% from the top on down -
I want to hear how purchasing the stadium is going, with a target date for completion.
I want to hear about a scouting network and links to local sides; look at Brackley, look at Oxford City; have we spotted some talent from them?
I want to see new coaches getting hired, those with experience, who can train the strikers to hit the back of the net and the midfielders complete more passes.
I want to see the future prospects of the clubs; the youth players and them being given the opportunity in the first team over loan signings.
I want honest players; those that train hard and give it their all on a match day and a dedicated manager who punishes those that don't.

When I start to see those things I'll start believing that Kelvin Thomas and Chris Wilder are the people to get this club back to what it once was.
Sorry that's just a f*cking insult to loyal Oxford fans - Thomas and Wilder get over yourselves you are not bigger than the club and certainly not the week-in week-out mugs like myself who pay your wages! 'performances haven't been terrible' What planet are you on?! They've been rubbish since since the turn of the new year and the last time I can say I saw Oxford perform with any real conviction (Swindon game aside) was AFC Wimbledon away. I expect better than 'not been terrible' in fact I expect 100% from you, the coaching staff, chairman and players. It costs me and fellow Oxford fans thousands of pounds a season in ticket money, petrol, food and drink, programmes and giving money to the club for things like the 12th man to be presented with performances like Port Vale, Torquay, Gillingham, Morecambe - essential, winnable games and what happens? Excuse on excuse. I want 100% from the top on down - I want to hear how purchasing the stadium is going, with a target date for completion. I want to hear about a scouting network and links to local sides; look at Brackley, look at Oxford City; have we spotted some talent from them? I want to see new coaches getting hired, those with experience, who can train the strikers to hit the back of the net and the midfielders complete more passes. I want to see the future prospects of the clubs; the youth players and them being given the opportunity in the first team over loan signings. I want honest players; those that train hard and give it their all on a match day and a dedicated manager who punishes those that don't. When I start to see those things I'll start believing that Kelvin Thomas and Chris Wilder are the people to get this club back to what it once was. AylesburyOx
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11:11am Mon 7 May 12

yellowhoods says...

Oxford united, small city, joke club, no money, 3 sided ground, no league pedigree, inbred fans, deluded fans, ugly fans, dumb fans, great manager, wilder in!!!!!well done christine wilder lol lol lol lol ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
Oxford united, small city, joke club, no money, 3 sided ground, no league pedigree, inbred fans, deluded fans, ugly fans, dumb fans, great manager, wilder in!!!!!well done christine wilder lol lol lol lol ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha yellowhoods
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12:29pm Mon 7 May 12

adlibber says...

Aylesbury Ox - your post should be put on Thomas's wall as it shows far more passion and honesty than management and most of the players. I usually appreciate KT's navigation but he's got it wrong here. Wilder blew it as did his team. If KT wants to keep the brilliant support of his team he needs to be radical before next season and bring in new blood on and off the pitch.
Aylesbury Ox - your post should be put on Thomas's wall as it shows far more passion and honesty than management and most of the players. I usually appreciate KT's navigation but he's got it wrong here. Wilder blew it as did his team. If KT wants to keep the brilliant support of his team he needs to be radical before next season and bring in new blood on and off the pitch. adlibber
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2:02pm Mon 7 May 12

Brian Gibbs says...

I have just read the comments from Chris Wilder "Reflections on the season" on the OUFC site and if ever a man has lost the plot that has to be it. To say the players we have brought in have done well is a joke and what the hell does formulating mean in football terms?
I have just read the comments from Chris Wilder "Reflections on the season" on the OUFC site and if ever a man has lost the plot that has to be it. To say the players we have brought in have done well is a joke and what the hell does formulating mean in football terms? Brian Gibbs
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2:32pm Mon 7 May 12

BigAlBiker says...

Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon.

Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not.
Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon. Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not. BigAlBiker
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2:44pm Mon 7 May 12

yellowhoods says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon. Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not.
Pointless but thanks
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon. Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not.[/p][/quote]Pointless but thanks yellowhoods
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2:47pm Mon 7 May 12

BigAlBiker says...

yellowhoods wrote:
BigAlBiker wrote:
Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon. Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not.
Pointless but thanks
Pleasure, as always.
[quote][p][bold]yellowhoods[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: Apart from Robbie Hall and Lee Holmes the rest of the players brought in by CW would not have made Oxford City's team this afternoon. Some of them had to be relatives of CW as they did nothing to enhance the team at all, in fact some of them were downright useless and should have been done for fraud, football players they were not.[/p][/quote]Pointless but thanks[/p][/quote]Pleasure, as always. BigAlBiker
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2:59pm Mon 7 May 12

Brenda Jackson says...

AylesburyOx wrote:
Sorry that's just a f*cking insult to loyal Oxford fans - Thomas and Wilder get over yourselves you are not bigger than the club and certainly not the week-in week-out mugs like myself who pay your wages! 'performances haven't been terrible' What planet are you on?! They've been rubbish since since the turn of the new year and the last time I can say I saw Oxford perform with any real conviction (Swindon game aside) was AFC Wimbledon away. I expect better than 'not been terrible' in fact I expect 100% from you, the coaching staff, chairman and players. It costs me and fellow Oxford fans thousands of pounds a season in ticket money, petrol, food and drink, programmes and giving money to the club for things like the 12th man to be presented with performances like Port Vale, Torquay, Gillingham, Morecambe - essential, winnable games and what happens? Excuse on excuse. I want 100% from the top on down - I want to hear how purchasing the stadium is going, with a target date for completion. I want to hear about a scouting network and links to local sides; look at Brackley, look at Oxford City; have we spotted some talent from them? I want to see new coaches getting hired, those with experience, who can train the strikers to hit the back of the net and the midfielders complete more passes. I want to see the future prospects of the clubs; the youth players and them being given the opportunity in the first team over loan signings. I want honest players; those that train hard and give it their all on a match day and a dedicated manager who punishes those that don't. When I start to see those things I'll start believing that Kelvin Thomas and Chris Wilder are the people to get this club back to what it once was.
Agree with everything you say, when it suits, Chairmen and managers refer to 'Your Club' as though Supporters own it- in reality it is a business like any other and i don't think we are getting value for money. There's no structure to the Club, and the reserve team is to be disbanded next season, meaning even less chance for Youth and trial players to prove their worth.
Forget the Stadium, we're told that 'It's getting nearer'- But the proverbial goal posts keep getting shifted!
[quote][p][bold]AylesburyOx[/bold] wrote: Sorry that's just a f*cking insult to loyal Oxford fans - Thomas and Wilder get over yourselves you are not bigger than the club and certainly not the week-in week-out mugs like myself who pay your wages! 'performances haven't been terrible' What planet are you on?! They've been rubbish since since the turn of the new year and the last time I can say I saw Oxford perform with any real conviction (Swindon game aside) was AFC Wimbledon away. I expect better than 'not been terrible' in fact I expect 100% from you, the coaching staff, chairman and players. It costs me and fellow Oxford fans thousands of pounds a season in ticket money, petrol, food and drink, programmes and giving money to the club for things like the 12th man to be presented with performances like Port Vale, Torquay, Gillingham, Morecambe - essential, winnable games and what happens? Excuse on excuse. I want 100% from the top on down - I want to hear how purchasing the stadium is going, with a target date for completion. I want to hear about a scouting network and links to local sides; look at Brackley, look at Oxford City; have we spotted some talent from them? I want to see new coaches getting hired, those with experience, who can train the strikers to hit the back of the net and the midfielders complete more passes. I want to see the future prospects of the clubs; the youth players and them being given the opportunity in the first team over loan signings. I want honest players; those that train hard and give it their all on a match day and a dedicated manager who punishes those that don't. When I start to see those things I'll start believing that Kelvin Thomas and Chris Wilder are the people to get this club back to what it once was.[/p][/quote]Agree with everything you say, when it suits, Chairmen and managers refer to 'Your Club' as though Supporters own it- in reality it is a business like any other and i don't think we are getting value for money. There's no structure to the Club, and the reserve team is to be disbanded next season, meaning even less chance for Youth and trial players to prove their worth. Forget the Stadium, we're told that 'It's getting nearer'- But the proverbial goal posts keep getting shifted! Brenda Jackson
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3:20pm Mon 7 May 12

Mac27 says...

wilder out take your favourite jake wright with u! aylesbury ox spot on post!players worth keeping
clarke
dubery
davis
leven
whing
hall
j.p.pittman
craddock
every one else go take a run and jump! and why hasnt tyrone marsh been given a go.?
rather bring in lewis guy or morgan on loan total joke!
wilder out take your favourite jake wright with u! aylesbury ox spot on post!players worth keeping clarke dubery davis leven whing hall j.p.pittman craddock every one else go take a run and jump! and why hasnt tyrone marsh been given a go.? rather bring in lewis guy or morgan on loan total joke! Mac27
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4:51pm Mon 7 May 12

yellowhoods says...

Just said on the radio the club making a statement in one hour, wilder has quit his post
Just said on the radio the club making a statement in one hour, wilder has quit his post yellowhoods
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4:52pm Mon 7 May 12

oldun says...

442
442 oldun
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5:02pm Mon 7 May 12

BigAlBiker says...

yellowhoods wrote:
Just said on the radio the club making a statement in one hour, wilder has quit his post
One can hope.
[quote][p][bold]yellowhoods[/bold] wrote: Just said on the radio the club making a statement in one hour, wilder has quit his post[/p][/quote]One can hope. BigAlBiker
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6:25pm Mon 7 May 12

oldun says...

Why would he quit?
Why would he quit? oldun
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7:03pm Mon 7 May 12

northampton yellow says...

well if cw does decide to "RUN AND JUMP"i be having a beer to say good bye then hopefully the coaching staff will follow coz they are all "useless"
well if cw does decide to "RUN AND JUMP"i be having a beer to say good bye then hopefully the coaching staff will follow coz they are all "useless" northampton yellow
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7:17pm Mon 7 May 12

BenkiuGuasu says...

firstly, yellow hoods is a swindon fan.
secondly, there is no club announcement.
thirdly, wilder is going nowhere.
fourthly, CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER.....CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER!!!!!!!!!!
firstly, yellow hoods is a swindon fan. secondly, there is no club announcement. thirdly, wilder is going nowhere. fourthly, CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER.....CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER!!!!!!!!!! BenkiuGuasu
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8:03pm Mon 7 May 12

Brenda Jackson says...

aylesburyox -If you didn't know there's a mention of your post on 'yellows Forum' Under the management section - 'Official our players are wimps' thread. Do you post on there already?
aylesburyox -If you didn't know there's a mention of your post on 'yellows Forum' Under the management section - 'Official our players are wimps' thread. Do you post on there already? Brenda Jackson
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8:11pm Mon 7 May 12

yellowhoods says...

BenkiuGuasu wrote:
firstly, yellow hoods is a swindon fan. secondly, there is no club announcement. thirdly, wilder is going nowhere. fourthly, CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER.....CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER!!!!!!!!!!
Sad
[quote][p][bold]BenkiuGuasu[/bold] wrote: firstly, yellow hoods is a swindon fan. secondly, there is no club announcement. thirdly, wilder is going nowhere. fourthly, CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER.....CHRIS WILDER MY LORD...CHRIS WILDER!!!!!!!!!![/p][/quote]Sad yellowhoods
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8:38pm Mon 7 May 12

AylesburyOx says...

Brenda Jackson wrote:
aylesburyox -If you didn't know there's a mention of your post on 'yellows Forum' Under the management section - 'Official our players are wimps' thread. Do you post on there already?
Haven't seen that. Shall have a look. Cheers
[quote][p][bold]Brenda Jackson[/bold] wrote: aylesburyox -If you didn't know there's a mention of your post on 'yellows Forum' Under the management section - 'Official our players are wimps' thread. Do you post on there already?[/p][/quote]Haven't seen that. Shall have a look. Cheers AylesburyOx
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2:20am Tue 8 May 12

mandate says...

I am sick to death of hearing Kelvin Thomas raving on about the club and it's well managed finances.

How is it possible that clubs like Cheltenham, Torquay and Crewe, with less than half the player budgets and fanbase, finish in the play-offs?

Thousands of loyal fans turn up at the Kassam week after week. Season ticket sales are already at high levels for next season. I want to know where all this money goes?

It is time for Kelvin Thomas to either make major investments in the club, or stand down.

Oxford United are far to big a club to be stuck in League 2. If the chairman and management can't get us to where we should be, then I think it's time for them all to leave the club, and get people in who are dedicated to making a serious go of making Oxford United FC a club to be proud of again.
I am sick to death of hearing Kelvin Thomas raving on about the club and it's well managed finances. How is it possible that clubs like Cheltenham, Torquay and Crewe, with less than half the player budgets and fanbase, finish in the play-offs? Thousands of loyal fans turn up at the Kassam week after week. Season ticket sales are already at high levels for next season. I want to know where all this money goes? It is time for Kelvin Thomas to either make major investments in the club, or stand down. Oxford United are far to big a club to be stuck in League 2. If the chairman and management can't get us to where we should be, then I think it's time for them all to leave the club, and get people in who are dedicated to making a serious go of making Oxford United FC a club to be proud of again. mandate
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5:15am Tue 8 May 12

Megastar07 says...

It's not rocket mandate
The money goes on the stadium
It's not rocket mandate The money goes on the stadium Megastar07
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7:38am Tue 8 May 12

oldun says...

How much do they pay - not that difference surely? Offer much less - Kassam won't be able to let it to anybody else , will he? Wasps won't go there
How much do they pay - not that difference surely? Offer much less - Kassam won't be able to let it to anybody else , will he? Wasps won't go there oldun
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8:25am Tue 8 May 12

BigAlBiker says...

Rumour has it the cost to Kassam is £450,000 per annum, thats a few quality players wth wages out the door, time to target wealthy business people or corprorations and get the stadium purchased and renamed.
Rumour has it the cost to Kassam is £450,000 per annum, thats a few quality players wth wages out the door, time to target wealthy business people or corprorations and get the stadium purchased and renamed. BigAlBiker
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8:56am Tue 8 May 12

Oxford Male says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
Rumour has it the cost to Kassam is £450,000 per annum, thats a few quality players wth wages out the door, time to target wealthy business people or corprorations and get the stadium purchased and renamed.
Brilliant. Bet no one has ever thought of that before.
Do you honestly think that people at the club have not been working on this for years. Perhaps the blame should be placed on those that negotiated the deal with Kassam and came to the agreed figure of £13m (or around that amount) for the future purchase of the stadium. Or those that claim to have forced Kassam out - he had always said that he would only sell the football club and stadium together. But look what happened.
Pity we didn't have better negotiators representing OUFC at the time.
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: Rumour has it the cost to Kassam is £450,000 per annum, thats a few quality players wth wages out the door, time to target wealthy business people or corprorations and get the stadium purchased and renamed.[/p][/quote]Brilliant. Bet no one has ever thought of that before. Do you honestly think that people at the club have not been working on this for years. Perhaps the blame should be placed on those that negotiated the deal with Kassam and came to the agreed figure of £13m (or around that amount) for the future purchase of the stadium. Or those that claim to have forced Kassam out - he had always said that he would only sell the football club and stadium together. But look what happened. Pity we didn't have better negotiators representing OUFC at the time. Oxford Male
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9:09am Tue 8 May 12

Tarkus says...

Sadly it looks like we have reached a crossroads for the club & management team.

Why did we bring a player in with a long throw & keeper whose kicks where acurate & long, then drop the most likely ball winner in the air & best holding it up i.e. Rendell. Also We should have started Johnson & Monatanio both have pace to burn which we lacked.

Why didn't Chapman start? He's more mobile than Leven & can deliver a killer ball, so play both!

If Asa Hall scores great but if he doesn't then the rest of his game is not strong enough, especially in tackling.
Sadly it looks like we have reached a crossroads for the club & management team. Why did we bring a player in with a long throw & keeper whose kicks where acurate & long, then drop the most likely ball winner in the air & best holding it up i.e. Rendell. Also We should have started Johnson & Monatanio both have pace to burn which we lacked. Why didn't Chapman start? He's more mobile than Leven & can deliver a killer ball, so play both! If Asa Hall scores great but if he doesn't then the rest of his game is not strong enough, especially in tackling. Tarkus
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9:36am Tue 8 May 12

Ab Boy says...

The Manager and players should hold their heads in shame!!

You have to go into the game believing 100% that Crewe MIGHT drop points so you MUST win your game and see what happens!!

The players played like they knew it was a lost cause and you have to blame the manager for that!!!

Crewe were very lucky to get their draw on Sat and at 2-1 down very nearly went 3-1 down and how would the players felt then!!!

Total lack of professionalism by all at the club!!!

When Swindon had to get over the line to win it they dug deep and managed it and I believe that was the difference over the season between the two teams.

One wanted it and they played for their manager who's motavation and tactics were spot on and the other team were only really up for some big games!!

Its not winning some big games that win you the league, its those horrible away Tuesday night games in the winter that count!!!
The Manager and players should hold their heads in shame!! You have to go into the game believing 100% that Crewe MIGHT drop points so you MUST win your game and see what happens!! The players played like they knew it was a lost cause and you have to blame the manager for that!!! Crewe were very lucky to get their draw on Sat and at 2-1 down very nearly went 3-1 down and how would the players felt then!!! Total lack of professionalism by all at the club!!! When Swindon had to get over the line to win it they dug deep and managed it and I believe that was the difference over the season between the two teams. One wanted it and they played for their manager who's motavation and tactics were spot on and the other team were only really up for some big games!! Its not winning some big games that win you the league, its those horrible away Tuesday night games in the winter that count!!! Ab Boy
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9:43am Tue 8 May 12

oldun says...

£450,000 - a lot of money but our gate receipts outweigh the likes of so many clubs by much more than that - each 1000 for 23 games brings in about that much a season, doesn't it? So the extra 3.5 thousand - about 80,000 fans a year must bring in about 3 to 4 times that rental in gate money alone . We are being outdone by so many much smaller clubs - why?
£450,000 - a lot of money but our gate receipts outweigh the likes of so many clubs by much more than that - each 1000 for 23 games brings in about that much a season, doesn't it? So the extra 3.5 thousand - about 80,000 fans a year must bring in about 3 to 4 times that rental in gate money alone . We are being outdone by so many much smaller clubs - why? oldun
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9:55am Tue 8 May 12

horsham says...

Mac27 wrote:
wilder out take your favourite jake wright with u! aylesbury ox spot on post!players worth keeping
clarke
dubery
davis
leven
whing
hall
j.p.pittman
craddock
every one else go take a run and jump! and why hasnt tyrone marsh been given a go.?
rather bring in lewis guy or morgan on loan total joke!
Mac27, you are wrong about Jake Wright, he is the sort of player that Oxford DO need next season.
[quote][p][bold]Mac27[/bold] wrote: wilder out take your favourite jake wright with u! aylesbury ox spot on post!players worth keeping clarke dubery davis leven whing hall j.p.pittman craddock every one else go take a run and jump! and why hasnt tyrone marsh been given a go.? rather bring in lewis guy or morgan on loan total joke![/p][/quote]Mac27, you are wrong about Jake Wright, he is the sort of player that Oxford DO need next season. horsham
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12:17pm Tue 8 May 12

Manchester Yellow says...

A lot of disappointing negativity here - which is understandable to an extent due to us hitting a poor run of form at the death - though notwithstanding that it does remind me of some of the stuff that was being said on here at the end of season 08-09; especially the anti-Chris Wilder feelings. We've only been back in the league 2 years and this season put in a solid attempt at getting into the play offs. Yes we have or should have a bigger budget than some of the other teams but its not the be all and end all. Are the 15 teams that finished behind us all calling for their managers to be sacked too? It's more difficult to be successful than it is to fail - Getting rid of the manager at this point would (a) be letting the players off lightly, and (b) potentially destabilise the club. I'll take another 4 years in League 2 before I'd take relegation back down to that horrible league below. Also - we took 6 points off the scum! GET IN. COYY
A lot of disappointing negativity here - which is understandable to an extent due to us hitting a poor run of form at the death - though notwithstanding that it does remind me of some of the stuff that was being said on here at the end of season 08-09; especially the anti-Chris Wilder feelings. We've only been back in the league 2 years and this season put in a solid attempt at getting into the play offs. Yes we have or should have a bigger budget than some of the other teams but its not the be all and end all. Are the 15 teams that finished behind us all calling for their managers to be sacked too? It's more difficult to be successful than it is to fail - Getting rid of the manager at this point would (a) be letting the players off lightly, and (b) potentially destabilise the club. I'll take another 4 years in League 2 before I'd take relegation back down to that horrible league below. Also - we took 6 points off the scum! GET IN. COYY Manchester Yellow
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12:25pm Tue 8 May 12

oldun says...

Many of those 15 clubs are traditionally 4th tier or non league clubs with gates of 4000 . As such they probably understand that they are doing very well , thank you. Rovers, Argyle and Bradford fans might think like us - but they have all very recently been in the third tier . We are the long-term underachievers of the division - aren't we? Last in third tier 2000-2001 .
Many of those 15 clubs are traditionally 4th tier or non league clubs with gates of 4000 . As such they probably understand that they are doing very well , thank you. Rovers, Argyle and Bradford fans might think like us - but they have all very recently been in the third tier . We are the long-term underachievers of the division - aren't we? Last in third tier 2000-2001 . oldun
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12:32pm Tue 8 May 12

Manchester Yellow says...

oldun wrote:
Many of those 15 clubs are traditionally 4th tier or non league clubs with gates of 4000 . As such they probably understand that they are doing very well , thank you. Rovers, Argyle and Bradford fans might think like us - but they have all very recently been in the third tier . We are the long-term underachievers of the division - aren't we? Last in third tier 2000-2001 .
I agree oldun. All I'm saying is that it takes time to build a sustainable successful club. We're a few years into that programme. What would be the point of being promoted into League 1 and then coming straight back down again because the club's/ team's not ready? Like Wycombe. Would set us back further. And as we found out to our detriment 2006-10, just because we are a big club, that doesn't give us a right to be in the league. Don't rate the idea of change for change sake, and CW has been loyal to us, so we should show him some loyalty.
[quote][p][bold]oldun[/bold] wrote: Many of those 15 clubs are traditionally 4th tier or non league clubs with gates of 4000 . As such they probably understand that they are doing very well , thank you. Rovers, Argyle and Bradford fans might think like us - but they have all very recently been in the third tier . We are the long-term underachievers of the division - aren't we? Last in third tier 2000-2001 .[/p][/quote]I agree oldun. All I'm saying is that it takes time to build a sustainable successful club. We're a few years into that programme. What would be the point of being promoted into League 1 and then coming straight back down again because the club's/ team's not ready? Like Wycombe. Would set us back further. And as we found out to our detriment 2006-10, just because we are a big club, that doesn't give us a right to be in the league. Don't rate the idea of change for change sake, and CW has been loyal to us, so we should show him some loyalty. Manchester Yellow
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12:39pm Tue 8 May 12

oldun says...

Loyal to us? Loyal? He has a good job, hasn't he? What else was he going to do?
Loyal to us? Loyal? He has a good job, hasn't he? What else was he going to do? oldun
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12:57pm Tue 8 May 12

Major Oxford says...

Wilder staying, stadium catering staff ahve all walked out in protest, demo outside bowlplex tonight
Wilder staying, stadium catering staff ahve all walked out in protest, demo outside bowlplex tonight Major Oxford
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1:05pm Tue 8 May 12

adlibber says...

As long as beat Swindon twice that's good enough eh? Jeez all this rubbish about taking time to get used to league two football - like Stevenage hung about didn't they? The longer we stay in lge 2 the more chance we have of being a conference club again. If CW is here next season I trust he'll change his negative attitude when things are not working on the pitch instead of just carrying on regardless. CW also needs to grow up and stop snapping at his critics like a spoilt brat. He has deserved criticism just as much as he deserved praise for getting us back into the league that's football management for you.
As long as beat Swindon twice that's good enough eh? Jeez all this rubbish about taking time to get used to league two football - like Stevenage hung about didn't they? The longer we stay in lge 2 the more chance we have of being a conference club again. If CW is here next season I trust he'll change his negative attitude when things are not working on the pitch instead of just carrying on regardless. CW also needs to grow up and stop snapping at his critics like a spoilt brat. He has deserved criticism just as much as he deserved praise for getting us back into the league that's football management for you. adlibber
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11:46pm Tue 8 May 12

mandate says...

I'm not negative, I just feel passionate about Oxford United. If other Oxford fans feel it is acceptable for us to have not played in a higher division than League 2 since 2001, then maybe they have'nt been Oxford fans for so long.

As for Chris Wilder, I truly believe he is not the right man for the managerial position.

We need a manager like Dennis Smith back in charge. He was a superb manager and was totally respected by all.

Chris is relatively inexperienced as a manager and would do well to learn is trade from the likes of Dennis Smith.

As for the chairman Kelvin clown, I feel the club would be in a better place if he was to start showing some real commitment to the club. A good start would be by having talks with Barnet FC about buying Izale McLeod. He would be a fantastic asset to the team next season.
I'm not negative, I just feel passionate about Oxford United. If other Oxford fans feel it is acceptable for us to have not played in a higher division than League 2 since 2001, then maybe they have'nt been Oxford fans for so long. As for Chris Wilder, I truly believe he is not the right man for the managerial position. We need a manager like Dennis Smith back in charge. He was a superb manager and was totally respected by all. Chris is relatively inexperienced as a manager and would do well to learn is trade from the likes of Dennis Smith. As for the chairman Kelvin clown, I feel the club would be in a better place if he was to start showing some real commitment to the club. A good start would be by having talks with Barnet FC about buying Izale McLeod. He would be a fantastic asset to the team next season. mandate
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10:44am Wed 9 May 12

LeGod says...

Mandate- you always did talk rubbish. What makes you think your team is too big for L2?
You've only been up from the conference a couple of seasons.
No club is too big for any league if you dont earn the right to be where you think you should be then you shouldnt be there.
So Sheff Weds for example should be in the premier league as they would pulll in crowds of 40000 so does that mean they should be there-No- there team isnt good enough.
you have to earn the right and Oxford arent good enough to be in a highere division otherwise you would have been top 3 this season.

You can always change your support to a team down the road who play in Red as we are going up.

Bye bye mandate. Next season the clubs pushing will be Rotherham-Rovers-Ply
mouth and Chesterfield and whichever team is left behind from this seasons play offs.
Mandate- you always did talk rubbish. What makes you think your team is too big for L2? You've only been up from the conference a couple of seasons. No club is too big for any league if you dont earn the right to be where you think you should be then you shouldnt be there. So Sheff Weds for example should be in the premier league as they would pulll in crowds of 40000 so does that mean they should be there-No- there team isnt good enough. you have to earn the right and Oxford arent good enough to be in a highere division otherwise you would have been top 3 this season. You can always change your support to a team down the road who play in Red as we are going up. Bye bye mandate. Next season the clubs pushing will be Rotherham-Rovers-Ply mouth and Chesterfield and whichever team is left behind from this seasons play offs. LeGod
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12:37pm Wed 9 May 12

Brenda Jackson says...

mandate wrote:
I'm not negative, I just feel passionate about Oxford United. If other Oxford fans feel it is acceptable for us to have not played in a higher division than League 2 since 2001, then maybe they have'nt been Oxford fans for so long. As for Chris Wilder, I truly believe he is not the right man for the managerial position. We need a manager like Dennis Smith back in charge. He was a superb manager and was totally respected by all. Chris is relatively inexperienced as a manager and would do well to learn is trade from the likes of Dennis Smith. As for the chairman Kelvin clown, I feel the club would be in a better place if he was to start showing some real commitment to the club. A good start would be by having talks with Barnet FC about buying Izale McLeod. He would be a fantastic asset to the team next season.
Agree with you, especially about the lack of ambition.
And when a Clubs' manager rubbishes their History yet keeps harping on about 'where we were' before he came in you know we have a problem.
Ignore the trolls, what a sad life
they must lead coming on here just to have a dig or two.
I'm considering whether to re-new my season ticket, i have not heard anything that encourages me to do so yet.
[quote][p][bold]mandate[/bold] wrote: I'm not negative, I just feel passionate about Oxford United. If other Oxford fans feel it is acceptable for us to have not played in a higher division than League 2 since 2001, then maybe they have'nt been Oxford fans for so long. As for Chris Wilder, I truly believe he is not the right man for the managerial position. We need a manager like Dennis Smith back in charge. He was a superb manager and was totally respected by all. Chris is relatively inexperienced as a manager and would do well to learn is trade from the likes of Dennis Smith. As for the chairman Kelvin clown, I feel the club would be in a better place if he was to start showing some real commitment to the club. A good start would be by having talks with Barnet FC about buying Izale McLeod. He would be a fantastic asset to the team next season.[/p][/quote]Agree with you, especially about the lack of ambition. And when a Clubs' manager rubbishes their History yet keeps harping on about 'where we were' before he came in you know we have a problem. Ignore the trolls, what a sad life they must lead coming on here just to have a dig or two. I'm considering whether to re-new my season ticket, i have not heard anything that encourages me to do so yet. Brenda Jackson
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12:58pm Wed 9 May 12

oldun says...

"Le god" - of course (like Swindon) we are too big for the fourth tier. You know that. Obviously it is achieved through results not crowds or income. Yes, on fan base, I am sure that Wednesday are one of the twenty biggest clubs in the country (only just). United fans must not be happy with being 9th in Div 4 - no matter where they were when Wilder took over. You know I am right and if your team had been 11 years out of the third tier, you would agree with we long-suffering yellows. Promotion to League One next season for very little Fleetwood and (maybe) for (bigger than Oxford) Luton
"Le god" - of course (like Swindon) we are too big for the fourth tier. You know that. Obviously it is achieved through results not crowds or income. Yes, on fan base, I am sure that Wednesday are one of the twenty biggest clubs in the country (only just). United fans must not be happy with being 9th in Div 4 - no matter where they were when Wilder took over. You know I am right and if your team had been 11 years out of the third tier, you would agree with we long-suffering yellows. Promotion to League One next season for very little Fleetwood and (maybe) for (bigger than Oxford) Luton oldun
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2:03pm Wed 9 May 12

yellowhoods says...

oxford still have no real league pedigree, how long have oxford been a proper league club????reading are towns oldest league rivals, followed by the bristol clubs. Oxford are a joke club
oxford still have no real league pedigree, how long have oxford been a proper league club????reading are towns oldest league rivals, followed by the bristol clubs. Oxford are a joke club yellowhoods
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1:33am Fri 11 May 12

BenkiuGuasu says...

and yellow hoods is a swindon fan. see...told yous all along...
and yellow hoods is a swindon fan. see...told yous all along... BenkiuGuasu
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