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Taxis could be forced to carry large ID numbers on their roofs

Alan Woodward, secretary of Oxford Taxi Cab Association Alan Woodward, secretary of Oxford Taxi Cab Association

TAXIS in Oxford could have large numbers stuck on their roofs so they can be seen by police and CCTV operators.

Police officers said taxis were occasionally used by criminals and large numbers on the roofs would make them easier to track down in a chase.

They pitched the idea at a meeting with representatives from the city taxi trade last week, but were met with a mixed reaction.

If it goes ahead, police believe they could be the first force in the country to pioneer the idea.

Alan Woodward, secretary of the City of Oxford Licensed Taxi Cab Association, said: “Drivers were concerned paint work might start to deteriorate and were concerned it would devalue their cars.

“There needs to be some more investigation done into the type of material that’s going to be used.”

He added the numbers could leave a dull area on the vehicles’ roofs and they would have to be re-sprayed before being sold.

Mr Woodward said drivers were also concerned if numbers went missing or peeled off police might trace the wrong car by mistake.

Police cars and ambulances have numbers on their roofs already.

Det Sgt John Linsdell came up with the idea, and Oxford City Council is looking to take it forward in conjunction with local taxi companies.

The numbers could cost as little as £12, he said.

Det Sgt Linsdell said: “We would like to do it with the co-operation of the trade and with the support of our partners. I have taken the idea to the trade and asked them to consider the issues.

“Personally, I think it would be a good idea. People who commit serious crimes may leave the scene in a taxi or private hire car and this would assist us to trace them at an early stage of the enquiry.

“The police helicopter and CCTV services would be able to see the vehicles clearly.”

Det Sgt Linsdell said at the moment it could take time to trace the car a suspect got into, but being able to identify the vehicle immediately would increase chances of the crime being solved.

He also said CCTV in the city did not always pick up number plate details.

He said: “I can think of two cases last year that my team dealt with where serious offences took place and taxis were part of the investigation. If we had been able to identify the taxis at an early stage the chances of success would have improved.”

Julian Alison, Oxford City Council’s licensing team leader, said: “Oxford City Council’s licensing team is working with the police and local taxi companies to look at taking this forward.

“We are interested in assisting any initiative that will help make Oxford a safer place to visit, work and live in.”

Comments(21)

Joe Cooke says...
8:51am Mon 7 Feb 11

It's a good idea but how about a full check on the people driving taxis, hire cars and mini cabs?

Darkforbid says...
9:22am Mon 7 Feb 11

-Police officers said taxis were
occasionally used by criminals
and large numbers on the roofs
would make them easier to track
down in a chase-

would the police ever chase a taxi? And would that mean they endanger the driver?

Quiet, you! says...
9:25am Mon 7 Feb 11

I think Andy Woodward has a kind face.

Bart Simpson1 says...
9:26am Mon 7 Feb 11

Joe, there are already full checks done on all licence holders! Doh

jamesp says...
10:05am Mon 7 Feb 11

It would be relatively useful, but it wouldn't necessarily tell you who the driver is.
On more than one occasion, I have had the driver bragging to me, as he isn't licensed and shouldn't be driving the taxi. Unfortunately, in all those cases, I had paid up front.

Bart Simpson1 says...
10:41am Mon 7 Feb 11

Rubbish jamesp, all you had to do was report them afterwards!! Doh. and it was your fault if you allowed it to happen more than once.

slimjim says...
10:53am Mon 7 Feb 11

Quiet, you! wrote:
I think Andy Woodward has a kind face.
His name is Alan, not andy

Quiet, you! says...
11:13am Mon 7 Feb 11

slimjim wrote:
Quiet, you! wrote: I think Andy Woodward has a kind face.
His name is Alan, not andy
Underneath his photo it says 'Andy'.

Lord Palmerstone says...
12:25pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Bart Simpson1 wrote:
Joe, there are already full checks done on all licence holders! Doh
There are checks done on licence holders but Joe is quite right in that a lot of the men driving informal hire vehicles are way below the range of the City Council's radar. Taxi licensing makes an occupation for some clerks but it has nothing to do with protection or benefit for the public.

eatmygoal says...
1:06pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Quiet, you! wrote:
I think Andy Woodward has a kind face.
That is possibly the most well thought out, intelligent, insightful and worthwhile comment I have ever read on this site. Well done. Please post some more

Quiet, you! says...
2:03pm Mon 7 Feb 11

I aim to please, 'eatmygoal'. I see the caption has now been changed. Seems he was called Alan all along. Do you think he ever gets cross? I bet with a kind face like that, he never gets cross.

Andrew:Oxford says...
3:18pm Mon 7 Feb 11

It's funny how in other cities specific rules can apply to Taxis without much fuss? In Leeds all hackney carriages are painted white with a black bonnet to identify them. Could do something similar in Ox and have them painted in Oxford Blue with an Ox on the roof with registration plate underneath. ...
If you can't afford to meet the standards, don't play the game.

jamesp says...
3:33pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Bart Simpson1 wrote:
Rubbish jamesp, all you had to do was report them afterwards!! Doh. and it was your fault if you allowed it to happen more than once.
Were you there? No, didn't think so.
Try getting home from town at 3 in the morning, and find a taxi that won't charge you up front. Some of them are fine, some are not. They don't really like taking people outside of the ringroad, on the meter, as it is not worth it for them.

OxfordResident says...
3:35pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Surely a lot more crimes involve private cars (rather than cabs). Why not ask for all cars to have reg #'s on roof?
And bikes, and buses......

JanetJ says...
6:13pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Only let the cabs with id on the roof use the bus lanes

Ni Mula says...
8:06pm Mon 7 Feb 11

OxfordResident wrote:
Surely a lot more crimes involve private cars (rather than cabs). Why not ask for all cars to have reg #'s on roof?
And bikes, and buses......
I agree about the bikes. Cyclists should have their heads shaved then tattooed with a number. It would make it a lot easier for the police when pursuing cyclists with the police helicopter!

Marina Morris says...
8:21pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Isn't Det Sgt Linsdell the bloke who's been making things difficult for OUFC supporters and the landlord of the Priory pub lately? Mmmm, I reckon he's got a promotion interview coming up soon and as looking for things to tell them about.

eatmygoal says...
8:29pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Quiet, you! wrote:
I aim to please, 'eatmygoal'. I see the caption has now been changed. Seems he was called Alan all along. Do you think he ever gets cross? I bet with a kind face like that, he never gets cross.
I quite agree. I bet he is has a very high tolerance threshold, is patient with his family and kind to animals.

I like Mr Woodward.

Ni Mula says...
9:03pm Mon 7 Feb 11

Do you think he is related to Edward Woodward, he was a kind man?

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon says...
7:23pm Wed 9 Feb 11

jamesp wrote:
Bart Simpson1 wrote:
Rubbish jamesp, all you had to do was report them afterwards!! Doh. and it was your fault if you allowed it to happen more than once.
Were you there? No, didn't think so.
Try getting home from town at 3 in the morning, and find a taxi that won't charge you up front. Some of them are fine, some are not. They don't really like taking people outside of the ringroad, on the meter, as it is not worth it for them.
Of course if you go outside the ring road you will be ripped off and pay up front because Alan has agreed a rate that you lose money on going out of the ring road. He doesn't drive a Taxi so doesn't care. That is why you pay up front, and pay a lot more than you should. Don't blame the Driver. Blame Alan (or Andy if you are quiet you)

Mr peter Mcvey says...
9:30pm Wed 9 Feb 11

Apu Nahasapeemapetilon wrote:
jamesp wrote:
Bart Simpson1 wrote:
Rubbish jamesp, all you had to do was report them afterwards!! Doh. and it was your fault if you allowed it to happen more than once.
Were you there? No, didn't think so.
Try getting home from town at 3 in the morning, and find a taxi that won't charge you up front. Some of them are fine, some are not. They don't really like taking people outside of the ringroad, on the meter, as it is not worth it for them.
Of course if you go outside the ring road you will be ripped off and pay up front because Alan has agreed a rate that you lose money on going out of the ring road. He doesn't drive a Taxi so doesn't care. That is why you pay up front, and pay a lot more than you should. Don't blame the Driver. Blame Alan (or Andy if you are quiet you)
Thats right it cost me £30 from George St to Kidlington last night, but she was a babe so maybe it was worth it.

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