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Square shape set to change


A £2M redesign of one of the Oxford’s worst traffic bottlenecks is being drawn up by transport planners.

Highways officers at the county council are to ask the public their views on how they think the road layout in Frideswide Square outside the railway station could be reshaped.

The current design was created following the completion of the Oxford Transport Strategy in 1999, but traffic has never flowed freely.

Traffic entering the city centre is often forced to queue along Botley Road and other approach roads.

Council leaders want to come up with a design which will help traffic flow more smoothly.

Ian Hudspeth, the cabinet member for growth and infrastructure, said removing all the traffic lights and installing a roundabout at each end of the square was one possibility.

The work will be carried out as part of the council’s Transform Oxford programme, which aims to pedestrianise more of the city centre, including Queen Street.

Mr Hudspeth said: “We want to create a proper welcome for people arriving at the railway station – at the moment they’re faced with a clutter of signs and traffic lights.

“We want to create a clear walk for them through to the city centre, but we need to devise something that will satisfy pedestrians, bus users, car users and cyclists.

“It’s possible the scheme could involve removing the traffic lights and having a roundabout at each end, rather than a large gyratory at the end of the square, but we haven’t made up our minds yet and we want to hear what the public has to say.

“If we remove all the traffic lights, we need to ensure the safety of pedestrians. If we redesign the square, it may mean fewer crossings for pedestrians.

“Traffic comes from the west and the north and gets stuck in Frideswide Square. It’s clearly a key junction which isn’t working to its best capacity.”

Mr Hudspeth said initial consultation with key organisations would take place this spring, with a further round of public consultation in the summer, before a final decision on the revised design was made by the end of the year.

He added that he hoped a new platform at the railway station, alongside the Becket Street car park, would be built next year, with work on the square taking place in 2012.

Mr Hudspeth added: “Two million pounds would pay for the pure transport side of the scheme, but we might be able to attract additional funding to make it top quality, with environmental enhancements.”

Graham Jones, a spokesman for traders’ group Rescue Oxford, said: “We suggested the two roundabouts scheme to the council four years ago, because it takes far too long for traffic to get through.

“Congestion in the square has been a nonsense for far too long and certainly needs addressing.”

Corinne Grimley Evans, of Oxford Pedestrians’ Association, welcomed the proposed rethink.

She said: “It’s not an easy square for pedestrians to cross.

“We look forward to an improved design.

“The association will play a full part in the consultation process.”

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Comments(17)

Pierre My says...
8:04am Thu 18 Mar 10

How about switching the lights off for a week and see what happens, the traffic always seems to flow freely on the odd occasion when the lights fail, and it would save a fortune on redesigning.

BigAlBiker says...
11:19am Thu 18 Mar 10

Pierre, never a good idea to solve the transport problem we have by telling those who know best how to do it, but your right of course, turning off the lights will indeed create less traffic, less pollution and easier throughput.

brianbbleys says...
11:20am Thu 18 Mar 10

"Mr Hudspeth said initial consultation with key organisations would take place this spring, with a further round of public consultation in the summer, before a final decision on the revised design was made by the end of the year."

yea right of coarse they'll take notice of what the peasants will say haven't they always done so in the past?? the last 11years the County hasn't taken any notice of what the public want to happen and this time will be NO different

PaulSte says...
11:31am Thu 18 Mar 10

Queen Street seems to work since the changes - not that all the armchair critics who spent last year offering their comments would acknowledge it.

Pierre My says...
12:10pm Thu 18 Mar 10

PaulSte wrote:
Queen Street seems to work since the changes - not that all the armchair critics who spent last year offering their comments would acknowledge it.
Yes Q.St, works well, with the limited bus stops, through buses, and the Taxi Rank. But when it is closed it will just add to the traffic jams on St Aldates with the extra buses stopping there, and god knows where the Taxis will go.

jockox3 says...
1:15pm Thu 18 Mar 10

These are the same people, in effect, who spent millions of our pound-things designing the current version. And we are giving them another go?

Madness. Clearly what is needed is a monster flyover from somewhere near county hall to somewhere around the Thames bridges on Botley Rd, and a tunnel running from somewhere near where the new Westgate car park might one day be and emerging from under the new canal basin onto Worcester St.

The remaining traffic can then negotiate a simple arrangement of four mini roundabouts arranged around the square so it looks like a Four Leaf Clover from approaching trains.

All pedestrian movement will be controlled via the Stargate at the entrance to the Old Jam Factory building.

Sorted.

security word: "drug-fire"

abingdonguy says...
4:27pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Nice to see Mr Buspeth wants to screw our roads up more with another one of his consultations with all and sundry except ordinary folk.
How come its taken OCC 11 years to realise what we knew from the first day it opened? One giant mess. And we are going to have to give them another 2M for the privilige? But it does need just putting back to how it was before it was there. Simple.

jockox3 says...
4:36pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Actually - remember when they were building it the first time, someone got to put in a statue for a few days made up of dozens of sets of traffic lights arranged as a sort of a tree?

Maybe they could bring that back and switch it on. It couldn't be much worse than the current situation and at least when it got criticised people could explain that it was "artistic" after all!

Then they could spend 2m "ring-fencing" all traffic designers rather than their budgets.

Bogota Bob says...
7:40pm Thu 18 Mar 10

PaulSte wrote:
Queen Street seems to work since the changes - not that all the armchair critics who spent last year offering their comments would acknowledge it.
Queen Street is fine, because they've cut loads of traffic out of it. However the end result is lots of extra traffic in other parts like Castle Street and St Aldates.

Walking down St Aldates is a nightmare as the huge queues for Blackbird Leys buses fill the pavements up. And the buses regularly seem gridlocked because they can't squeeze by the parked buses on both sides of the street.

JanetJ says...
9:48pm Thu 18 Mar 10

Pierre My wrote:
PaulSte wrote: Queen Street seems to work since the changes - not that all the armchair critics who spent last year offering their comments would acknowledge it.
Yes Q.St, works well, with the limited bus stops, through buses, and the Taxi Rank. But when it is closed it will just add to the traffic jams on St Aldates with the extra buses stopping there, and god knows where the Taxis will go.
Nightmare trying to cross the road in St Aldates now.

GaryOxford says...
9:32am Fri 19 Mar 10

A radical solution would be to try do something that removes the need to use cars to commute to work, rather than trying to accomodate them.
Most people who drive into Oxford are commuting from outlying towns because there is inadequate housing provision in Oxford. Why don't they more housing in Oxford so that fewer people have to drive in? A long term goal I know but it would certainly help.

Pierre My says...
11:35am Fri 19 Mar 10

GaryOxford wrote:
A radical solution would be to try do something that removes the need to use cars to commute to work, rather than trying to accomodate them. Most people who drive into Oxford are commuting from outlying towns because there is inadequate housing provision in Oxford. Why don't they more housing in Oxford so that fewer people have to drive in? A long term goal I know but it would certainly help.
What planet you on mate. There are nearly 4,000 families on the waiting list in Oxford with an average of 210 affordable homes being built a year, and you want more people to come and live here. Where do the 4,000 new homes, plus the few thousand homes for your new people go?

Andrew:Oxford says...
12:53pm Fri 19 Mar 10

The trouble is the piecemeal approach to everything. Ideally before anything else is done, the underbridge to the Botley Road really needs sorted out. It's too narrow, regularily floods and is unpleasant for both cyclists and pedestrians alike. Once that is sorted, make Hythe Bridge Street a pedestrian boulevard (except for access to Fisher Row if traffic cannot be routed an alternative way). Put a central bus lane down Park End Street with flow control so that it is used only for buses entering the city between 6am and 10am and for buses leaving the city between 3pm & 7pm with deliveries banned to premises in Park End Street during those times.

LadyPenelope says...
1:00pm Fri 19 Mar 10

GaryOxford wrote:
A radical solution would be to try do something that removes the need to use cars to commute to work, rather than trying to accomodate them. Most people who drive into Oxford are commuting from outlying towns because there is inadequate housing provision in Oxford. Why don't they more housing in Oxford so that fewer people have to drive in? A long term goal I know but it would certainly help.
Most people I know who work in Oxford and don't live there do so because they don't actually want to live in Oxford.
They also drive because they HAVE to, due to inadequate or slow public transport links.
Opening more train stations i.e Witney Oxford route would reduce car numbers.

pater mcvey says...
10:08pm Fri 19 Mar 10

I didn't realise there was a train line from our fair city to the yokels in Witney, maybe Lady P you could persuade the government to build one at a cost of £upteen millions just to bring a few people in a day. That makes perfect sense.

jockox3 says...
10:22pm Fri 19 Mar 10

There *was* one though once wasn't there: you go over the old trackbed at the bridge just before the Cassington traffic lights. And from memory there's another section of old trackbed between Lew and Brize. Still, that was then.

pater mcvey says...
9:33pm Mon 22 Mar 10

jockox3 wrote:
There *was* one though once wasn't there: you go over the old trackbed at the bridge just before the Cassington traffic lights. And from memory there's another section of old trackbed between Lew and Brize. Still, that was then.
went through Eynsham if I remember correctly along the new road after the toll bridge.


What was the western end of Park End Street in 1998, after the former Rewley Road railway station building was removed Frideswide Square now

What was the western end of Park End Street in 1998, after the former Rewley Road railway station building was removed

Frideswide Square now



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