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Rodney Rose Rodney Rose

OXFORDSHIRE’S parking boss is threatening to hike the price of permits after the county council was exposed as making a profit out of the scheme.

The council made a profit of £110,442 from its Oxford residents’ parking permit scheme in the 2010-11 financial year, despite previous claims it would not.

And in total it made £1.13m profit from traffic – including parking charges and bus gate fines.

But Rodney Rose, county cabinet member for transport, insisted the council was making a loss because he claimed the cost of enforcing double yellow lines across the whole city should be included in calculations.

That meant a loss of £178,000 he claimed. He then threatened to charge the city’s 8,276 permit holders even more to cover the cost.

Mr Rose was accused of being spiteful after making the announcement just a week after the Oxford Mail and Oxford City Council launched a campaign to get permit holders a £10 rebate.

In a council cabinet meeting on Tuesday, he said calls for a rebate had only served to highlight the loss the scheme was making.

And he threatened: “It may be that permit charges have to go up to cover the loss I am making.”

He said if he did hike charges, he would tell permit holders it was the councillors calling for a rebate who were responsible.

Oxfordshire County Council said it was making a £178,219 loss as it cost £290,000 to enforce double-yellow lines in the city.

But the Department for Transport says yellow lines should be put in and enforced as a matter of traffic safety and for flow of traffic.

Speaking after the meeting, Mr Rose repeated that rather than get a £10 refund, residents could face an extra charge on their permits to cover the ‘loss’. That would be £21.53 each.

He said: “They are supposed to be self-funding but if people keep drawing attention to the fact that they are not, there might be pressure on me to do something about it.

“But I think we are charging an appropriate level so I don’t want to do that.”

Liberal Democrat John Goddard said: “To my mind it is a rather spiteful remark. If they are already paying too much then the right thing to do is repay the overcharging, not find reasons for charging even more.”

Lib Dem city member Alan Armitage said the council had been “misleading” people by claiming it had made a loss.

He said: “He is quite clearly out of order and if he really is threatening rises there will be an even bigger outcry.”

Permit-holder Bob Hughes, 64, of Boulter Street, St Clements, added: “It sounds like a very authoritarian, huffy response.”

The county council raised its basic permit charge to £50 from £40 in January.

Christine Hunt, of Islip Road, Summertown, said: “If there is another rise above £50, if they are making a profit, I certainly don’t think that is justified.”

TaxPayers’ Alliance campaign director Emma Boon said: “It would be completely unacceptable if the cabinet member for transport was insinuating the cost would go up because there had been complaints that the council was making money over it.”

Some 28 Oxford Mail readers have used the cut-out letter we printed last week to demand a refund from the county council.

Council spokesman Gemma Watts said: “Oxfordshire County Council makes a financial loss on residents’ parking zones. It is therefore not possible for there to be any kind of refund.”

Let Mr Rose know what you think. The council says you can write to him at 5 Wychwood Drive, Milton-under-Wychwood, OX7 6JA, email him at rodney.rose@oxfordshire.gov.uk or call him on 07919 298277

Comments(11)

Sid Hunt says...
9:39am Fri 22 Jul 11

"cost of enforcing double yellow lines across the whole city"

Does this relate to Oxford centre only or the suburbs as well? Yellow lines have been installed in our area but there is no enforcement of these.

Your_Kidding says...
9:47am Fri 22 Jul 11

And he threatened: “It may be that permit charges have to go up to cover the loss I am making.”

If this is an actual quote then clearly this man is under the impression that it is 'his' money and not in fact ours. He is employed by us to work for us and yet he clearly has his own little agenda going on.

ItscalledspinIcallitlying says...
11:50am Fri 22 Jul 11

What is it with the Tories and bullying?

camden says...
12:48pm Fri 22 Jul 11

Entered "define a road" in to google and here are some of the results,

"A long, narrow stretch with a smoothed or paved surface, made for traveling by motor vehicle, carriage, etc., between two or more points; street or highway"
"An open, generally public way for the passage of vehicles, people, and animals."
"A long piece of hard ground built between two places so people can walk, drive or ride easily from one place to the other".
There are many many more but none of them define a road as a place to park a vehicle !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Esprit says...
1:32pm Fri 22 Jul 11

Rodney Rose is on the County Council as representative for Wychwood. So, like the majority of county council members, he probably doesn't care a **** about Oxford City and the hardships its residents suffer from the expenses that the council imposes on them.

Headington Jim says...
6:18pm Fri 22 Jul 11

Clearly Mr Rose should be running British Gas instead of one department in the County Council. He certainly has a flair for justifying hiking prices.
Still it is only a problem he has to worry about in the Office (where no doubt he has his own personal parking space). No worries about parking in Milton under Wychwood though!
Bet he also has one of those County Council park anywhere permits. I have to pay £50 to park outside my house but the space is often taken by those permit holders on "business in the JR".

Victor Meldrew2 says...
7:53pm Fri 22 Jul 11

I see the OCC website defines residents parking as 'a controlled parking zone (CPZ) is an area where on-street parking controls have been introduced by the local council to manage parking' - so thats a total lie then - it has been introduced to make up a shortfall in parking losses elsewhere - OCC please change your website that is misleading

Lord Peter Macvey says...
9:07pm Fri 22 Jul 11

All it needs is a Good Lawyer amongst us to mount a legal challenge (with us all sticking 50p-£1 in the pot to cover costs) and then we will really see the true figures in court.

GaryOxford says...
9:09pm Fri 22 Jul 11

The controlled parking zones were not universally welcomed when brought in. In order to get the voting masses on side it was decided that the scheme wouldn't make a profit. However now it has been shown that the scheme does make a profit; Rodney Rose is now attempting to mislead people. The enforcement of yellow lines should be paid for by the fines they generate or out of the revenue collected from the extortionate council tax, not from an entirely different parking system that was agreed to be not for profit from the beginning. If Rodney Rose is looking for funding to cover the 'loss he is making' I would suggest he start by repaying the £22737.24 he was paid in allowances last year, he'd be 1/8th of the way there!

saysme36 says...
11:06pm Fri 22 Jul 11

Whilst not a huge fan of the Tories, I have to say in this instance I feel that Mr Rose is doing the right thing for the majority of County Council residents. I live outside of Oxford and see no reason why i should be subsidising a facility that provides a benefit to the residents of Oxford whilst also adding value to their properties. i moved from London a couple of years ago and had a controlled parking zone installed whilst i was there. I seem to remember loads of yellow lines going in at the same time where there had been none before which in the council literature that was circulated at the time made perfect sense. If you are controlling parking you need to show people where they can and cannot park. My value of my property increased as a result and I was finally able to park where previously the road was packed with commuters to the local station resulting in me having to park quite some distance away. I paid £85 a year for my permit and did not expect other taxpayers to fund this benefit so personally i would thoroughly resent subsidising this facility in Oxford when Libraries and other essential services are at risk.

Lord Peter Macvey says...
8:40pm Sun 24 Jul 11

saysme36 wrote:
Whilst not a huge fan of the Tories, I have to say in this instance I feel that Mr Rose is doing the right thing for the majority of County Council residents. I live outside of Oxford and see no reason why i should be subsidising a facility that provides a benefit to the residents of Oxford whilst also adding value to their properties. i moved from London a couple of years ago and had a controlled parking zone installed whilst i was there. I seem to remember loads of yellow lines going in at the same time where there had been none before which in the council literature that was circulated at the time made perfect sense. If you are controlling parking you need to show people where they can and cannot park. My value of my property increased as a result and I was finally able to park where previously the road was packed with commuters to the local station resulting in me having to park quite some distance away. I paid £85 a year for my permit and did not expect other taxpayers to fund this benefit so personally i would thoroughly resent subsidising this facility in Oxford when Libraries and other essential services are at risk.
Sesame, then the simple answer is for The County Council to hand over the roads to us. The City Council would then make £millions through the fines for the bus gates, car parks, yellow lines etc. But guess what, The County Council makes too much money from it to hand over, so in fact it is us City Residents, subsidising your low council tax, not the other way round.

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