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Oxford residents face fines for excess rubbish


RESIDENTS across Oxford have been warned they face fines of £80 if they dump sacks of rubbish outside their homes.

From today, Oxford City Council is launching a fresh clampdown on what it describes as “excess rubbish” — non-recyclable waste put out for collection next to or on top of green wheelie bins — in a bid to clean up city grot spots.

And last night the man in charge of the scheme said he would not hesitate to fine offenders.

City councillor John Tanner, executive member for a cleaner, greener city, said: “There are still people across the city who are not playing by the rules and leave piles of rubbish next to their wheelie bins.

“We want them to stop.

“The idea of introducing wheelie bins was to get rid of the piles of rubbish all over the streets which were a mess and a hazard to our binmen because they never knew what was in a bag and how heavy it was going to be.

“We are getting tough on excess rubbish because it’s messy and costs us money.”

Householders who put out too much non-recyclable rubbish over the next four weeks will have a warning card posted through their door — and the extra waste will not be collected.

From August 31, repeat offenders will be fined.

The Town Hall said eliminating excess rubbish would help it meet waste reduction and recycling targets set by the Government.

In a leaflet entitled Bin All Your Rubbish, which has been distributed to every household in the city, it stated: “If we fail to meet these targets, we will face huge fines that will ultimately result in increases in council tax.”

Mr Tanner said it was acceptable for householders to leave neat piles of bottles, paper and plastic next to their recycling boxes if they were full — but not mixed waste.

He said: “We are much more sympathetic to recycling because we want people to recycle, but if it’s mixed waste there’s no excuse.”

The clampdown has sparked a mixed reaction from residents.

Kennett Road resident Stephanie Jenkins said: “What provision is going to be made for student houses, where they dump all their excess rubbish to be collected in the front garden rather than on the pavement?

“Unless and until these sacks become a hazard, people can’t be fined for leaving bags on their own property, can they?

“It’s an ill-conceived plan. Fine the offenders, yes — but don’t leave the rubbish behind for the neighbours to endure.”

Nigel Magnay, of Burrows Close, added: “Householders will discover the easy solution — simply leave your excess rubbish next to someone else’s bins.”

Mr Tanner admitted the council’s powers to tackle littering were limited.

He said: “If people flytip or put rubbish in other people’s gardens we will certainly take action, but if people leave an untidy garden full of rubbish there’s not a lot we can do unless it’s a health hazard. We would simply urge people to be considerate to their neighbours.”


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William Windsor, Oxford says...
7:43am Mon 3 Aug 09

He said: “We are much more sympathetic to recycling because we want people to recycle, but if it’s mixed waste there’s no excuse.”

So why then when I rang up to say I had more recycling than I could fit in to the four plastic boxes I was provided with was I told to throw the excess away?

This excess creates at least three extra bin bags a week and I have now been told I can have another smaller green 'land fill' wheelie bin for free but if I want the rubbish recycled and a 'blue' wheelie bin I will have to pay £30.00.

I'm not paying for a blue wheelie bin so it can go to landfill, perhaps if you gave blue bins away and charged for extra green bins the targets may be met. I refuse to pay for something that ultimatley results in the council making more money to waste on salaries and expenses.

tanchris, oxford says...
7:45am Mon 3 Aug 09

Tenaants of a lot of Let houses couldn't care less.Whats the answer? Weekly collections, or is that too radical and forward thinking!!!

Al Terego, Oxford says...
8:07am Mon 3 Aug 09

The message is clear: don't dump any extra rubbish on top of your own bin - leave it on top of your neighbour's and let him pay the £80 fine. I can't see that this is workable.

sparro, torbay says...
8:19am Mon 3 Aug 09

This will cause more fly tipping. people will be dumping bags anywhere. Wait & see

William Windsor, Oxford says...
8:25am Mon 3 Aug 09

Just one more thing. the council are using section 46 of the Environmental Protection Act 1990 which states the types of receptacle that have to be used. Despite the leaflet saying the council will fine you for having the bin lid open and the rubbish piled high on the bin, the act does not cover the closure of the lid and they therefore cannot fine you for this. So long as the bin bags are piled on the bin and not the ground they have to be collected.

William Windsor, Oxford says...
8:31am Mon 3 Aug 09

Ok one more thing, Mr Tanner says 'The idea of introducing wheelie bins was to get rid of the piles of rubbish all over the streets which were a mess and a hazard to our binmen because they never knew what was in a bag and how heavy it was going to be'

Is he now implying that the binmen of today compared to those of ten or fifteen years ago are 'wimps' and not capable of lifting a bin bag ?

Who else can remember bin men collecting metal rubbish bins and lifting the bin and its contents up into the wagon, this was when they would then put the bin back where it came from, smile at you and were polite, instead of today where they launch the bins from one side of the street to the other and make more mess themselves than the rubbish they collect.

Roger Casement, Frejus says...
8:48am Mon 3 Aug 09

Would the OM please publish Mr. Tanner's address, so the citizens know where to take their surplus waste?
Alternatively bloggers can put it up from election material. I can't because I am a lucky man. I live nowhere near the Great Mess.

oxfordgirl1974, oxford says...
10:27am Mon 3 Aug 09

I'd like to know when the council are going to address the problem of recycling for flats. We live in flats where basically we have 2 places to recycle our stuff and they are always full up because these 2 lots of wheely bins are meant to be enough for over 100 households. We have a bin area with 1 dustbin each.

We have been promised time and time again that our recycling facilities would be sorted out, and yet whenever it is brought up, we are ignored.

Personally, I feel that the council should be concentrating their efforts on us for a change, instead of all the houses.....

Andrew:Oxford, Oxford says...
10:51am Mon 3 Aug 09

One day, I came back from work early as I'd booked a half day. The bins hadn't been collected at that point, however, I'd found that my originaly 3/4 full bin was now packed solid with the lid half open. Bit annoying, but didn't really matter that a neighbour had taken advantage of the opportunity. It would now...

I know that it is possible to get a wheely bin lock that opens automatically when the bin is inverted at the municipal vehicle. Could the Oxford Mail investigate and pubish which model is recommended by Oxford City Council?

rb, East Oxford says...
11:03am Mon 3 Aug 09

Any one with a problem regarding the council taking a stand on this issue, should pitch at number 82 Magdalen Road and see with their own eyes the sheer disgusting mess created by leaving dust bin bags on the ground. Now that the foxes and rats have had their feast. Then they should contemplate the anguish and disgust it creates.

Bargain Bucket, KFC says...
11:23am Mon 3 Aug 09

As the above posts say this is not a problem, just make sure there is nothing with your name and adress in the rubbish bags and dump them where you like. If we all did this weekly collections would soon make a comeback

Bargain Bucket, KFC says...
11:25am Mon 3 Aug 09

P.S. forgot to add. If there is nothing to associate you with the rubbish the council can't nick you even if it is next to your wheely bin.

Oxford resident, Oxford says...
12:37pm Mon 3 Aug 09

John Tanner says: "The idea of introducing wheelie bins was to get rid of the piles of rubbish all over the streets which were a mess and a hazard". But the wheelie bins and recycling boxes are a mess and a hazard, as they are left all over the pavement and road, instead of being returned to where they came from. Dustbinmen always returned dustbins to where they picked them up, so why can't modern rubbish operatives do the same?

ducati57, Oxford says...
1:41pm Mon 3 Aug 09

So any extra bags left will result in a fine!! I had three letters sent to my property over a period of weeks telling me not to leave rubbish bags on view in my garden and that they should be put in the bin.
The muppet who's job it was to drive round the streets looking for such offenders obviously couldnt be bothered to get out of his van to inspect the bags on my property. If he/she had, they would have realised that they contained building material and not refuse!! And yes I took three phone calls from me each time informing the council of the contents. This new plan will definately increase fly tipping and the dumping of rebbish in the streets and on other peoples property. Well done again Mr Tanner you really do earn you wages thinking up these monumental cockups!! I know full well that if I recieve such a fine then the council had better be able to prove that the rubbish is mine because belive me I will not bend over and be shafted by the council, but I will see you in court OCC.

Concerned one, Oxford says...
2:52pm Mon 3 Aug 09

Not content with increasing our council tax by 4.5% the council will now regulate how much non-recyclable waste we should produce. Yes, you may get some of the rubbish off the streets Mr. Tanner, however, it will either be fly-tipped or left in front/back gardens attracting vermin. Do any of our worthy councillors ever look and see what has been done to our environment with overflowing recycling boxes, wheelie bins and rubbish taking pride of place in our small front gardens?

Bargain Bucket, KFC says...
3:27pm Mon 3 Aug 09

I just called the council telling them of my intention. They threatened me with a fine. But when I asked them how they would prove who left the excess waste the answer was "I DON'T KNOW" The council seem to think they are doing us a favour by collecting our waste, no no no Mr Fannyer man we pay you to collect it, so don't try any or this threatening malarky with us. You will only lose in the long run

hughcurran, london says...
6:33pm Mon 3 Aug 09

what a bunch of negative prats we have in here! i re-cycle EVERYTHING! its so simple its laughable, & what REALLY bugs me is if you seperate your rubbish from the stuff you re-cycle you STILL HAVE THE SAME AMOUNT OF WASTE! ;like i said its simple, in fact its so simple. a TWO year old could do it lol! AND I REMEMBER THE DAYS WHEN EVERYBODY PUT THERE OWN BINS OUT! how many of the negetive PRATS in here do that? i bet a lot of them EXPECT the binmen to fetch from there propertys! LAZY GITS, wish all the negatives in here would get a life & stop winging for once, TWATS...

hughcurran, london says...
6:46pm Mon 3 Aug 09

William Windsor wrote:
Ok one more thing, Mr Tanner says 'The idea of introducing wheelie bins was to get rid of the piles of rubbish all over the streets which were a mess and a hazard to our binmen because they never knew what was in a bag and how heavy it was going to be' Is he now implying that the binmen of today compared to those of ten or fifteen years ago are 'wimps' and not capable of lifting a bin bag ? Who else can remember bin men collecting metal rubbish bins and lifting the bin and its contents up into the wagon, this was when they would then put the bin back where it came from, smile at you and were polite, instead of today where they launch the bins from one side of the street to the other and make more mess themselves than the rubbish they collect.
many of the binmen of yesteryear are now paying the price, I.E bad backs-elbows-wrists & the like! its called arthritis! this is FACT! ask the ones that sit in templers Sq & they will tell you of the suffering they now have, caused thru excesive weights they picked up during there working lives, happy retirement....

subman, oxford says...
7:36pm Mon 3 Aug 09

As an Ex printer the nice (very expensive) which I assume we all read and understood.
So please explain to me why the last 2 out of 5 collections my wheelie-bin is left blocking the middle of a public pavement and NOT returned to the edge of my property as per the leaflet.

hughcurran, london says...
9:44pm Mon 3 Aug 09

subman wrote:
As an Ex printer the nice (very expensive) which I assume we all read and understood. So please explain to me why the last 2 out of 5 collections my wheelie-bin is left blocking the middle of a public pavement and NOT returned to the edge of my property as per the leaflet.
is there anything more important in your life?????????????...
............

Bargain Bucket, KFC says...
7:13am Tue 4 Aug 09

Obviously Hughey you have such an empty life that you have much time to spare and a suitable space to keep all of your recepticles, unlike many of us. Remember, we pay the council for this service they aren't doing us a favour. And by using bully boy tactics they will only shoot themselves in the foot. We are fortunate in having 2 big wheely bins so everything fits in them and we can use the recycling bins for the kids toys and storage. Tell the council you live in a HMO and they give you another Wheely without even checking. By all means Recycle if you like but I find it far easier using the old system.

hughcurran, london says...
12:37pm Tue 4 Aug 09

i live in a flat & im a HGV 1st class driver! i pay my council tax just like everyone else & im 99% happy with the services i get! we dont live in a perfect world & we never will, thats life whether we like it or not! to many whingers & lazy people in this city, get a life as your obviously one of them! next your be reporting me for being abusive! SADDO,,,....

William Windsor, Oxford says...
8:39pm Tue 4 Aug 09

hughcurran wrote:
i live in a flat & im a HGV 1st class driver! i pay my council tax just like everyone else & im 99% happy with the services i get! we dont live in a perfect world & we never will, thats life whether we like it or not! to many whingers & lazy people in this city, get a life as your obviously one of them! next your be reporting me for being abusive! SADDO,,,....
It's a shame being literate is not a requirement of driving a HGV. FOOL !!

Bargain Bucket, KFC says...
10:22pm Tue 4 Aug 09

Hughey I would never report anybody as I believe in free speech, carry on posting as we like a good debate on here, But as I said if you want to be a council puppet good on you, but respect those of us who question and ultimately beat the system.

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