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20mph scheme likely to be driven through


Oxford is set to become only the second city in Britain to introduce a 20mph speed limit on most of its residential roads.

Oxfordshire County Council head of transport Ian Hudspeth will decide on Thursday whether to drive ahead with the £233,000 scheme and follow a recommendation by head of transport Steve Howell.

His recommendation came after two-thirds of people backed the idea in a survey.

However, the majority of Oxford’s main routes, such as the Botley, Woodstock and Iffley roads will retain 30mph limits and only see speeds reduced in certain sections.

Road safety campaigners had been calling for a blanket 20mph zone across the entire city, however they have still welcomed the reduced proposals calling them a “bold and imaginative move”.

Paul Cullen is the founding co-ordinator of Life begins at 20, which has fought a two-year campaign for the speed limits.

He said: “Oxford is now set to become one of the pioneers on 20mph speed limits and we’re very pleased about that.

“Oxford has a reputation for being ahead of the game on innovative approaches to traffic management such as the park-and-rides.

“I think it’s something Oxford can be proud of that it’s bitten the bullet and is prepared to accept the challenges of this.”

Only 146 people responded to the council’s formal consultation on the speed limits, far less than the 574 replies it received for its informal consultation in October 2008.

In total, 69 per cent backed the proposals, however some Oxford residents who replied called the scheme a waste of money and felt it would have little impact on reducing accident rates.

Richard Bradley, co-ordinator of campaign group Life begins at 20, said: “I think it will help to save lives and it will also help to reduce the severity and number of injuries inflicted on our roads.

“We very warmly welcome these recommendations and we hope the county council will follow it through.”

In three years from January 2006 to December 2008 there were two fatal, 81 serious and 583 slight injury accidents on Oxford roads.

County head of road safety Geoff Barrell said: “Our proposal to Mr Hudspeth is for him to approve this scheme following consultation.

“If this measure cuts speed by even just a 1mph average, that will deliver a five per cent reduction in casualties – nationally accepted speed statistics prove that.

“If this saves one life or cuts injury statistics, it will have been worth it.”

Mr Cullen said: “This will give the streets of Oxford back to the people.

“It’s a bold and imaginative move.”

Drivers in Oxford will not be fined for breaking the 20mph limits as Thames Valley Police is following national guidelines not enforce 20mph zones.

North Hinksey and Botley, which had originally been included in the proposals for 20 mph speed limits, are set to be omitted as the majority of the community did not back the scheme.

In June 2007 Portsmouth became the first city to introduce 20mph limits on the majority of its residential roads.



Your Say YourOxford

oxfordmaillogin, says...
9:16pm Sun 19 Apr 09

Let me get this straight..

They are going to spend £233,000 of taxpayers money in a recession on something that cannot be legally enforced????.

I am sticking to my 29 miles per hour ALL over Oxford.

Try and stop me...

oxfordmaillogin, says...
9:18pm Sun 19 Apr 09

Maybe the money might be better spent educating the people who cycle dangerously and those in cars who drive dangerously.

The problem with wooly hatted people is that they think every road problemm boils down to speed.

It does not.

Mullarkian, York says...
9:27pm Sun 19 Apr 09

**** ridiculous! This'll really upset the 'greenies' as cars do not run efficiently in 2nd or 3rd gear all the time. But on the other hand maybe all the extra CO2 will choke them.

brianbbleys, bbleys says...
7:09am Mon 20 Apr 09

agree with all comments, a complete waste of money and if the police aren't going to enforce it a total waste of taxpayers money, but there again the County Council doesn't care it's not theirs.

William Bonnie, Boot Hill says...
7:25am Mon 20 Apr 09

What will "road safety campaigners" do when they've got their 20 mph limit?10mph, man with red flag? It will certainly never be to understand that it is profoundly stupid people (e.g."road safety campaigners") behind the wheels of cars who are the problem and that all the speed limits on the planet can't un-stupid them

LadyPenelope, Oxford says...
8:19am Mon 20 Apr 09

Such a waste of taxpayer's money in a recession, and although I'm not a betting lady, I'll take a bet that this does NOT reduce the incidents on the roads.

These incidents are caused by stupid people driving like idiots, who will continue to do so regardless of the speed limit.

I, for one, will not be sticking to 20mph.

Gunslinger, Abingdon says...
8:45am Mon 20 Apr 09

Is there perhaps an election in the offing?
Are the CC Tories trying to woo the city ivory tower brigade, who seem to want to make it as difficult as possible foe people to get through or to 'their' city, regardless of the consequences for the economic vitality of the centre and jobs?

Fat boy, Witney says...
10:50am Mon 20 Apr 09

What a brilliant headline. My guess is it will be driven through and at a lot faster speed than 20mph.
Lets all drive everywhere in 1st gear and flood the city with our extra co2.

veryberrie, oxford says...
11:28am Mon 20 Apr 09

Does anyone else think £233,000 is an exorbitant amount for this scheme to cost for what seems a relatively straightforward job of swapping the 2's on speed signs for 3's?

STBO, says...
1:18pm Mon 20 Apr 09

Or we could just teach people how to cross the road and they'll avoid being mown down. Then whatever speed you're going won't matter. You're safely The amount of people that step into the road without looking is unbelievable. Basic road safety not rocket science.

markmac, Oxford says...
1:39pm Mon 20 Apr 09

Typical politicians statisitics. The actual stats are:
For 0.06%
Agin 0.03%
No opinion / didn't know about the question / weren't asked 99.9%

The devil will be in the detail tho - if its like the mad scheme for Headington with random patches of 20mph on main roads, it'll be just another revenue earning camera scheme.

GaryOxford, Oxford says...
2:36pm Mon 20 Apr 09

Unfortunately the 20mph limit will go through even though it won't improve safety. Ian Hudspeth is only interested in raising his own profile. He, like most people, knows that Oxford's transport problems will take a lot of effort to resolve, not one pointless headline grabbing gesture.

Danny A, Headington says...
4:00pm Mon 20 Apr 09

Well I regularly see people doing nearer 40 that 30 round my way. This might just mean they can now manage 30mph.

Sophia, Oxford says...
4:15pm Mon 20 Apr 09

To recap: a scheme costing £250k that only 100 people supported and which the police wont even enforce? Bonkers. And these are supposed to be Tories! Much more like NuLab at is worst

philg, Oxford says...
7:43pm Mon 20 Apr 09

15 comments in 24 hours? All negative. That's already 10% of the number of comments the council apparently received. I smell a rat.

On a lot of Oxford's side-streets you can't do more than 20mph anyway, so it sounds like a waste of money.

What would be good would be to have a built-in review after two years: if it hasn't made a blind bit of difference, the scheme should be scrapped.

DanOxford, Oxford says...
12:08am Tue 21 Apr 09

Oh it WILL be enforced- and you'll pay for it through increased Council tax to provide ANPR cameras capable of measuring average speeds. TVP have just doubled their number of cameras around Oxford, again pid for by an increase in their share of Council Tax.

The true genius of the petty- minded, surveillance society based on flawed, mileading or downright dishonest 'evidence' is that our lives are not only made miserable for a handful of careerists, hand-wringers, single- issue NIMBY's and neo- puritans- but that they actually charge us for it.

DanOxford, Oxford says...
12:16am Tue 21 Apr 09

this site is essential reading and exposes the lies that are used to introduce ever- more draconian measures, justified by the lie that speed is a causal factor in a third of accidents:

http://www.safespeed
.org.uk/lie.html

The one mph lie

Examples:


For every one mph reduction in speed accidents reduce by 5%. Etc.

Sources

Finch 1994 (not available on the web)
TRL421 (copyright report, not available for public download)
TRL511 (download pdf)

Truth

It's utter fabrication, made of out bizarre manipulations of statistical models which start off proving that faster roads are safer and are then bent to show the opposite. Once the purported link between speed and accidents has been concocted, the reports authors make an enormous leap of faith by assuming that the relationship is causal, then declare that a reduction in speed of 1 mph will reduce accidents by 5%.

We know the authors of TRL421 and TRL511 cannot be trusted because they lied about the meaning of their research - within the research itself. It's completely amazing. But if you check the references listed below under further reading it's completely obvious.

TRL: we are so ashamed of you!

Further Reading

ABD : About Finch 1994
SafeSpeed: TRL421
SafeSpeed: TRL letters


No sane person would argue against a lower limit IF it would save lives, but the truth is- yet again- we will be delayed and fined FOR NO GOOD REASON WHATSOEVER.

The problem with 'political correctness' as opposed to 'factual correctness' is that vast amounts of time, energy, resources and money are poured into measures that do nothing to tackle the ACTUAL causes of any problem, because they are either too sensitive, too complicated or simply too unknown to be tackled by teh meddling classes who stick their collective, nannying oars in.

old zimmer, says...
11:26am Tue 21 Apr 09

Paul Cullen says "it will give the streets of oxford back to the people" Sir you are an IDIOT. The streets were built for motorists. So what you really mean is that you wish to hijack the streets. Please, at least be honest if you are going to be quoted. If I drive my car on the pavement would I be reclaiming them for the drivers?

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