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5:30am Thursday 10th July 2008

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Fortnightly bin collections for household rubbish will be spread across Oxfordshire within two years, it emerged last night.

Council bosses at local authorities in the Vale of White Horse and South Oxfordshire have agreed to a combined scheme of collecting general waste and recycling on alternate weeks.

And yesterday West Oxfordshire District Council announced it would also change its general rubbish collections to every two weeks - meaning all Oxfordshire districts will have fortnightly collections of one sort or another by 2010.

The Vale, South Oxfordshire and West Oxfordshire will have weekly food waste collections, however, and West Oxfordshire will have weekly recycling.

David Dodds, cabinet member for environmental services at South Oxfordshire District Council, said people would have to get used to the changes.

He said: "We have to radically reduce the amount of waste we send to landfill as space is rapidly running out and we face large penalties from the Government if we don't."

Local authorities insist the move is to encourage people to recycle and cut costs, but people are worried about rat infestations caused by festering rubbish.

Father-of-three Mark Allinson, 33, of Broadway, Didcot, said: "I'm not impressed. I heard about some of the problems they have in other places with pests. It's not welcome at all as far as I'm concerned."

The changes have courted controversy around the country and residents in Oxford have voiced their concerns about the system.

Eric Murray, of Bridge Street, Oxford, and co-founder of pressure group Collect Refuse in Oxford Weekly (CROW), said the city's fortnightly collection system was not working.

He said: "Most of the city is a mess, it is filthy and it's a disgrace. If you leave the rubbish in the back garden for two weeks, it stinks."

However, Jean Fooks, a Lib Dem city councillor who was criticised over Oxford's new waste collection system, said: "Fortnightly collections are a good idea because they make people think more about what they can recycle."

The new schemes in South Oxfordshire, West Oxfordshire and the Vale are expected to be rolled out in June 2009 and autumn 2010.

Barry Norton, leader of West Oxfordshire District Council, said: "It's inevitable that things have to change.

"The system we have is not good enough to avoid the penalties coming into force. We need to recycle more and help the environment."

Jenny Hannaby, a Vale district councillor and executive member for waste procurement, said: "To make storing rubbish and recycling easier, we will be introducing wheeled bins which will also reduce the risk of waste littering the streets when it's windy."

Leslie Gillham, 77, of Berry Croft, Abingdon, said: "The very thought of it - with waste staying so long, rotting and decaying. It's going to cause all sorts of problems."


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roland rat &freddy the fox, oxon says...
5:40am Thu 10 Jul 08

what a good idea!i feel a few more offsprings mouths could be fed!

malc, Chinnor says...
7:10am Thu 10 Jul 08

I look forward to the 50% reduction in the portion of our Council Tax that is used for refuse collection.

Environmental policy, my arse. Two bags once a week or four bags once a fortnight; what's the difference.

Oh yes, less expenditure.

Jamie, cumnor says...
7:21am Thu 10 Jul 08

I totally agree with Malc.Its about saving money!!!Not saving the planet.All this mumbo jumbo about global warming is just a load of rubbish itself!

neil, carterton says...
8:05am Thu 10 Jul 08

It's not going to make a scrap of difference to the way people dispose of their rubbish. It'll just mean I'll be getting 2 extra wheelie bins and it'll take the rubbish distributors (sorry refuse collectors) twice as long to throw stuff around our streets (sorry I mean take our rubbish away).

Toad of Toad Hall, Toad Hall says...
8:08am Thu 10 Jul 08

Surely the intro should be: Council jobsworths are planning to spread millions of rats across Oxfordshire within two years.

malcolm baker, Long hanbourgh says...
8:19am Thu 10 Jul 08

Yet again those who are voted in by the electorate, fail to listen to the electorate. It happens both at National and local level. Why do we spend vasts amounts of money on elections when none of those elected give any thought to the people they serve. We pay over £1300 per year and what do we get for that sweet fa.
I thought West Oxfordshire DC were better than that. Where does Barry Norton expect us to keep all these different wheelie bins. Will there be weekly food waste collected. Its just another tax on the over taxed public, sneeked in under the "green" banner.

Zimmer, Oxon says...
8:28am Thu 10 Jul 08

We welcome the yokels from West & South to the 21st Century.
What a load of nonesense you are spouting.
The same nonesense that was heard from the population of Our fair County City. It's a load of old tosh. Rats are around humans because we are least than fastidious in our habits. All you need is common sense. Just think that you will be recycling for the sake of your children's children. Just talk to most residents of Cherwell District if you are not convinced. Recycling 45% and rising. That's the way to do it Roland, Freddie, Malc, Jamie, Neil and Toady.You know it makes sense!!!!!!

malcolm baker, Long hanbourgh says...
8:31am Thu 10 Jul 08

Zimmer wrote:
We welcome the yokels from West & South to the 21st Century. What a load of nonesense you are spouting. The same nonesense that was heard from the population of Our fair County City. It's a load of old tosh. Rats are around humans because we are least than fastidious in our habits. All you need is common sense. Just think that you will be recycling for the sake of your children's children. Just talk to most residents of Cherwell District if you are not convinced. Recycling 45% and rising. That's the way to do it Roland, Freddie, Malc, Jamie, Neil and Toady.You know it makes sense!!!!!!
Thats why whenever the TV cover the rat infestation caused by fortnightly collection of food waste, they AWAYS film live from your fiar city.
PS Why is Harold Bishop leader of West Oxfordshire DC???

Caroline, Witney says...
8:44am Thu 10 Jul 08

My problem is with fortnightly recycling as I already fill 4 to 6 boxes weekly. The operatives keep driving over the lids on the way back down the street so they don't stay on and the paper blows about. To improve recycling rates we need smaller bins for waste and bigger ones for recycling with incentives for parents not to use disposable nappies!!!

Zimmer, Oxon says...
9:04am Thu 10 Jul 08

Local TV Dear, By the way it is not my fair city .
Caroline, You've got it in one. They have a job to run over wheelie bins!

MIKE, oxford says...
9:32am Thu 10 Jul 08

Caroline - read before you type please. WestOx recycling stays weekly. This is a sensible response to the increase in recycling and the matching result in rubbish reduction.

M, Oxford says...
9:35am Thu 10 Jul 08

Brilliant! My cat's bored so now it'll be able to hunt the rats in our communal rubbish area. Oh! And I can't wait for that delicious smell of wet rotting rubbish drying off after a deluge filling the evening air. Ahh, I can just smell it now, the odour of used nappies and 2 week old fish will be lovely.

Also, can't wait for the reduction in my council tax as one of the services I receive is cut by 50%. What's that you say? Not gonna happen? Bit of a con that, isn't it?

Well done to the county council, they'll be getting my vote in the next election.

Richard Tivens, Tampa, Fl says...
9:50am Thu 10 Jul 08

Hey you guys

Can’t believe all this. Here in the States we get all our trash together taken away TWICE a week and the yard waste (grass cutting, tree branches, etc) once a week. Also every week there is a truck collection of old furniture, washing machines, etc. What is going on in that little island over there!.

Lou, Oxford says...
9:59am Thu 10 Jul 08

So when can we look forward to a reduction in the amount we pay for council tax??? Seeing as the council have seen fit to reduce the services we are paying over the odds for!!

Fortnightly collections are a joke!! on a number of ocassions now I have had the pleasure of my 'wheelie bin' being infested with maggots as rubbish is left to rot over two weeks. Not to mention the increase in flies, which funnily enough only seem to have appeared since the fortnighly collections were introduced!

It's a complete farce!, plus the half hearted service we receive from the 'refuse operatives' or whatever ridiculous PC name we are supposed to call them now is beyond a joke! Boxes thrown back on your lawn if you're lucky! otherwise it's the usual hunt in the next road to find your precious box or bin!

Sort it out Oxford Council you are a complete waste of space!

David, wantage says...
10:01am Thu 10 Jul 08

If people take responsibility and secure their rubbish properly, the problem will be less.

Possibly flush soft food waste down the lavatory.

Having said that, there should be a reduction in council tax to allow for the missed collections - but there won't be.

The blame is being placed at the door of the Government, whether this is true or not, I don't know. Ironic that the Labour Party can't break even with its own party accounts (large deficit), yet are still running the country. But not for long.

David Allan, says...
10:01am Thu 10 Jul 08

Richard - you make it sound so attractive..... I'm just off out to get my visa.... & good riddance uk

Concerned, Oxford says...
10:05am Thu 10 Jul 08

The London Borough of Bexley with weekly collections of refuse has a recycle Rate of 40% (they hope to achieve 50% in the next two years). The propaganda that everyone has to have fortnightly collections to make them recycle is rubbish. A recent survey of 1,000 homeowners with fortnightly collections, carried out for the esure insurance company, reported a 23 per cent increase in sightings of pests and vermin since 2005. We now have the so called "super rat" in Oxford. National TV and press have constantly shown Oxford as a city where fortnightly collections do not work.Less and less services for council tax that increases year on year - our councillors should be making public health their main priority not following the governments diktat.

tpebop, Faliraki Rhodes says...
10:11am Thu 10 Jul 08

Here in Rhodes we have DAILY rubbish collection

L, Oxford says...
10:17am Thu 10 Jul 08

Oh and Jean Fooks the woman who made all this possible, loved your performance on Dom Jolly's The Complainers by the way!

Faced with an 11 day old box of rottiing rubbish umm what did you do...run off and cancel the interview I believe! All STINKS A BIT doesn't it Jean???!!!

Becky, Witney says...
10:21am Thu 10 Jul 08

Excellent news, very sensible idea for those of us who produce very little rubbish and are sensible about recycling and composting. We rarely put out more than one bag (i.e. about one third of a small wheelie bin) of rubbish each week so it really doesn't need to be emptied weekly.

We would prefer a large, preferably wheeled, bin for recycleables though please, West Oxon DC. The boxes are fine but they're heavy to put out and the lids are a bit wonky - the two or three that we fill each week is probably eqivalent to one wheelie bin, which would be easier to store and much, much less hassle to move to the pavement each week.

Andrew, Oxford says...
10:41am Thu 10 Jul 08

It's all very simple.

If you want a weekly refuse collection, vote for the party that promises to deliver it at the next local election.

There is, of course, no absolute requirement for individuals to have refuse collected by the local authority. Commercial operators such as Biffa or Grundon would be delighted to provide a weekly or even daily service for the appropriate fee.

Zimmer, Oxon says...
10:51am Thu 10 Jul 08

How boaring this all is! You lot would soon moan when your Council Taxes go up because the Council is fined for not meeting the strict guide lines laid down by the EU for use of land-fill sites for the disposal of household waste. Note the European Union not HM Government or Oxfordshire or District councils in this country.
Perhaps you should all move to Tampa and deal with the 'gaiter problem which is exacerbated by household waste from the most wasteful society in the world namely the US of A.

Green, Oxford says...
10:52am Thu 10 Jul 08

"Most of the city is a mess, it is filthy and it's a disgrace. If you leave the rubbish in the back garden for two weeks, it stinks."

Yes, it will. However, if you leave rubbish in your wheelie bin, appropriately wrapped in a bin liner or similar, with the lid properly closed, it will be fine for a couple of weeks.

(And if you can't close the lid of your bin, you're producing too much rubbish and wasting too much food and not recyling enough!)

Agnes, Abingdon says...
11:06am Thu 10 Jul 08

I understand people's concern about rotting food and attracting rats etc. BUT food waste collections will remain weekly, thank goodness they saw sense (did I really say that!) in something. By far the bigger worry was that waste food will be lying around for two weeks. Yes the materials that can't be recycled, such as plastic tubs could cause a problem, but take some responsibility for your own actions - rinse them out before you put them into the bin - that's what you are supposed to do when you put bottles etc in the recycling bins.

Eric, Oxford says...
11:25am Thu 10 Jul 08

Green: Approx. 4,500 households in Oxford city have their refuse collected in lilac bags. I have a wheelie bin in my small back garden to store my rubbish free from vermin. I have no front garden and no side or rear access. I have to empty my wheelie bin after 2 weeks to transport the bags through the house for collection. I can assure you that rubbish
does smell after 2 weeks whether double wrapped or not. One scheme does not fit all.

Rob, Oxford says...
11:36am Thu 10 Jul 08

Fortnightly refuse collections work fine for us where I am in Oxford - family of 4 in Headington. No bags being ripped open by foxes now just put rubbish straight in the wheely bin which also seals the smells in. The recycling also works well with not much effort required to sort things into the right boxes. And no rats seen either!
I'd say it was an improvement over the service we got before. Where it is more of a problem is in densely packed streets of terraces where the occupants find it hard to find a place to store the boxes.
It won't be a problem out in the sticks in the rest of Oxfordshire where there is more space around houses.
The only other reason it may not work is that quite a few people just don't give a toss about recycling and want an easy life ('I pay my taxes!' yawn,yawn) but why should they dictate the refuse and recycling policy that ultimately effects all of us?

Malc, Chinnor says...
11:41am Thu 10 Jul 08

Playing the environmental card is side stepping the issue. I put out TWO recycling boxes every week and often a bag of shreded junk mail.

I put out two black bags; that's less than half a bag per person in my household - It ain't gonna go down much.

So we should "double wrap food waste" - isn't that just putting MORE plastic into landfill.

Less than 10% of this country's waste is produced by domestic premises. Tackle the waste at source and we will all be better off.

JK, Wantage says...
12:13pm Thu 10 Jul 08

I am fortunate that I have space to have a wheelie bin outside my house but what about those people whose front door opens directly onto the pavement and have no side entrance to their graden (there are a fair number in Wantage and many on the main routes through the town) - are they expected to wheel the bin through their house?! I think not ... which means they have no option but to block the pavements making a hazard for all pedestrians, pushchairs, wheelchair users - will the council pay compensation to those maimed or killed by having to step into the road to get around them only to be hit by traffic?

Debbie, Didcot says...
12:45pm Thu 10 Jul 08

I have just read through this stream and I must say that I am not suprised by the comments that have appeared.
I have one recycling box (without lid) and one garden waste wheelie bin. The rubbish is taken away in plastic bags but I keep it in a bin for a few weeks with the lid on and I have never had any vermin problems. It doesn’t usually smell that bad either unless the rain gets to it.
I recycle and compost veg waste (when I remember) but you know what the biggest difference I try to make is? I try not to buy stuff that has loads of packaging. I make a conscious effort not to buy tetrapaks (difficult to recycle) and never buy ready meals. Being a vegi the ready meal options should be condemned anyway! I work full time and study part-time but I can still find time to cook most days. Oh and I try not to waste cooked food either (not always possible when you make that cooking mistake!)
As someone has already hinted at this is one Earth and we are all in this together, let’s not try and sink the UK under all this rubbish. If you want to carry on chucking waste away please do not complain when an incinerator site or a new landfill is opened near you.

fasted, greece says...
1:11pm Thu 10 Jul 08

Come to a small Greek island,your bin is emptied EVERY day with all you can put in it.Including garden waste,bottles etc.What council tax.!!

Ed, Oxford says...
2:00pm Thu 10 Jul 08

Well, first off the supermarkets should not be allowed to sell anything whose packaging cannot be recycled.

Bins should be collected weekly, if not then I want a council tax rebate. It'll save a lot in fuel costs which will be squandered on more middle-managers I bet.

The system in this country is breaking down and it needs a serious re-vamp.

Axe the council tax, the many useless council staff and bureaucrats and implement a local sales tax of 3% like the rest of the world has (nearly).

Result? The tourists pay for our services :-)

Angela, Headington says...
2:20pm Thu 10 Jul 08

I live in Headington and we have had the fort-nightly collections for a long time now. I live in a terraced house with no side access and no front garden. This means that the rubbish is put into black bags and then lilac bags (so more polythene is used) and stored in our wheelie bin. This rubbish then has to be carried through the house (trust me it can stink). If I put the bags out the night before the foxes and cats tear the bags and spread rubbish all over the street.

It's a nightmare and I hate it! Thank god we haven't had a summer this year or it would be even worse!

Goody2sandals, north berks says...
2:48pm Thu 10 Jul 08

Great idea for sodc and vale to merge their binnage. Now merge both councils and recycle waste staff to the job centre.

Cynic, Oxford says...
4:10pm Thu 10 Jul 08

Let's look at one of our Euro neighbours, Germany, where recycling has been the norm for the last 15+ years. Landfill & inceinerated waste have been reduced to a tiny fraction of what they once were - however, there was a big embarassment when it was found that while Germany pays various Asian and third world countries to take their recyle away by the container load and - er, recycle it, what most of them have been doing for the last however many years is dumping it all in the sea and cheerfully picking up the money.

Even when recycling works, it's just another profiteering racket. Work it out - what about the bottle that your beer comes in? You, the consumer,pay the beer company for the cost of the bottle in the price of the beer; you then GIVE it to the council to recycle; the council SELLS it to the recycling company, which SELLS the recycled glass to the bottle manufacturer, who make another bottle and sell that to the beer company. Then they sell you the bottle, again. The only person who doesn't make any money in this circle is YOU, the consumer - and from you comes the profit for all these other companies.

It's not rocket science.... you're a bunch of mugs :)

Noddy, Oxford says...
5:46pm Thu 10 Jul 08

The irony is that I recycle about twice my household non-recycling waste mainly with junk and food packing. I have not got space for more bins so all that will happen is I recycle LESS for once my box is full, I have no where to put the recycling but the bin.

Roger, East Oxford says...
7:07pm Thu 10 Jul 08

It's good to see that Jean Fooks is being consulted, because all those responsible in other districts are going to have to learn to cope with her level of unpopularity. I can't remember anything like it since Margaret Thatcher.

John, says...
8:25pm Thu 10 Jul 08

"David Dodds, cabinet member for environmental services at South Oxfordshire District Council, said people would have to get used to the changes."

So much for consultation - get used to it people.

Questioner, Abingdon says...
8:27pm Thu 10 Jul 08

Why is it that every time a council proposes fortnightly refuse collections (usually up to 2 years hence)there is this same hew-and-cry in the local press? Many councils countrywide have brought this in over the last 5 or so years and there have been few cases of problems, real or imagined, indeed, some larger cities are rather good at it. In Tampa, Florida and mainland Greece, plus the islands, with temperatures climbing daily in the summer months (March through October) to over 100 degrees F there is a daily collection of food waste, no rats but Geckos get under the lids. Isn't this a case of something new, let's have a whinge about it? The EC have made the measures and we are morally obliged to stick to some of the rules at least.

Jan, says...
10:36pm Thu 10 Jul 08

The EU has not issued rules on frequency of collection, just reduction in landfill use. Each council is responsible for their own policy so they cannot blame the Government or the EU.

If these schemes are so good why have 17 councils reverted to weekly collections all year round; 3 councils have reverted to weekly collections during summer months and more are introducing weekly food waste collections?

Andy, Oxford says...
11:55am Fri 11 Jul 08

Perhaps Councils should fine supermarkets for the excessive packaging they produce - this seems to be all I put in my dustbins ( recycling) two bin loads a week . When I were a lad , i used to go to Local shops with my Grandmother - vegatables and fruit were placed in brown paper bags , meat & fish were wrapped in grease proof paper . Spuds used to be tipped into the bottom of the shopping basket or trolly . Bottles ( glass) had deposits on them - hardly any rubbish at all - no plastics and good excercise walking the 1/4 mile to the shops and back - simple

John Thomas, Oxford says...
11:58am Fri 11 Jul 08

Richard Tivens wrote:
Hey you guys Can’t believe all this. Here in the States we get all our trash together taken away TWICE a week and the yard waste (grass cutting, tree branches, etc) once a week. Also every week there is a truck collection of old furniture, washing machines, etc. What is going on in that little island over there!.
Whats Going on , WHATS GOING ON - I will tell you whats going on - We are being crucified because your chimp faced president wont sign up to the Kyoto agreement

Alan Page, Guildford says...
2:29pm Fri 11 Jul 08

Bring you rubbish to mine! my home address is: 34 Lime Grove, Guildford, GU1 1PQ

Mr Ison, England says...
3:30am Sat 12 Jul 08

The answer is to get rid off those useless tossers and instead employ people who can manage unobtrusive weekly bin emptying.

cajunsr., tampa, florida says...
3:57pm Sat 12 Jul 08

"In Tampa, Florida and mainland Greece, plus the islands, with temperatures climbing daily in the summer months (March through October) to over 100 degrees F there is a daily collection of food waste, no rats but Geckos get under the lids. Isn't this a case of something new, let's have a whinge about it?"


in my county, not the city, which is a separate gov't. entity; our pickups for garbage and trash are done twice a week, not every 2 weeks. i don't where this person received his information, but it is erroneous. i believe the city is also on the same schedule as the also use the same county landfill. we also have a large enviromentally friendly incinerator at the landfill that burns our garbage and turns it into electricity. and the yard wastes like tree limbs and leaves are recycled into mulch. plastics are recycled into traffic stops and other devices used in the county. it seems to me your council and your country is not putting your taxes to the best benefit.

amities et a bientot,
cajunsr.

Mr Ison, England says...
8:25pm Sat 12 Jul 08

The gobblers would disagree with you.

Steve, Dorchester says...
10:13pm Wed 16 Jul 08

So what do I do? We have no back garden access and our house is 50yrds off the main road. DO I have to put a large bin in my front garden and wheel it down to the road every two weeks for it to be stolen? Who pays for the replacement? ME? I have replaced 4 green boxs that have been "mislead" when they have been taken down the road. bet the "so called rubbish operatives" would not take my bin from outside my home..

joe, oxford says...
10:15pm Wed 16 Jul 08

oh no the F*CK**G GREENIES HAVE INVADED THE COUNCIL!

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