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5:36pm Friday 29th February 2008
Controversial conspiracy theorist David Icke told an Oxford audience that human beings are "holograms" and that the world was heading towards central control at the hands of a "fascist dictatorship".
The former goalkeeper and news presenter-turned outspoken commentator this week shared his radical views on politics and society with a rapt audience at the Oxford Union.
Mr Icke spent two hours expounding his theories to Oxford University students.
His claims included allegations that the 9/11 attacks were carried out to create a "one world government" and that the physical world is nothing but a holographic illusion.
Mr Icke, 56, told them: "The world isn't anything like you thought it was. We're watching a movie ... to give us the impression that we have freedom.
"The greatest form of control is a prison without bars. People will sit there forever because they don't think they are in a prison at all.
"The official version of events of 9/11 is an insult to the intelligence. We're being brain- washed with reasons to fear because that's the key to control.
"The goal is a centrally controlled fascist dictatorship."
He said Tony Blair, Gordon Brown and George W Bush were "puppets of a force that controls them", and claimed political parties were a "sham".
He went on to claim that the world was similar to the false reality presented in the movie The Matrix, adding: "The world we think is physical is an illusion. There is no 'over there' in terms of physical things.
"What is 'over there' are just frequency fields that we are decoding into a physical reality that only exists in our mind.
"The world that we think is physical is like a holographic TV channel. We're living in a holographic world. We're holograms."
Of his theories, Mr Icke said: "If I'm seen as sane by a world this crazy, I'm disappointed.
"Truth goes through three stages: first, it's ridiculed; second, it's violently opposed; and third, it's seen as self-evident. I know what the first one felt like - I got that in the early '90s."
Language student Jonny Wright, 21, said: "It's interesting. I wouldn't say I agreed with much of what he said.
"There's a point up to where it made sense and a point where it was getting silly. When he said the whole world is a hologram it went from credible stuff to incredible stuff."
Phillippa Lasocki, 20, a music student, said: "I think he's got some interesting ideas. I went in there with an open mind.
"He's a philosopher, and you can see the point he's making even if you don't agree with it."
David Icke was a former Coventry City and Hereford United goalkeeper until he was forced to retire in 1973 at the age of 21 because of arthritis.
He then became a journalist before moving into television as a stand-in presenter on the BBC show Grandstand.
He left the BBC after the summer Olympics in 1988 to become an activist in the Green Party and rose to the position of national spokesman (the party back then did not have leaders).
However he shot to fame in 1991 when he appeared on the Wogan chat show and announced to the country that he was "the son of God".
He later claimed he had been misinterpreted by the media.
Mr Icke has now published more than 20 books outlining his views including The Biggest Secret: The Book that Will Change the World in which he claimed that a race of reptilian humanoids is secretly controlling the world.
Mr Ison, England says...
8:07pm Fri 29 Feb 08
what a nice view, meow says...
10:22pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Stuart, Oxford says...
1:10am Sat 1 Mar 08
Phillippa, Oxford says...
4:58pm Mon 3 Mar 08
Matthew, Birmingham says...
6:42pm Tue 18 Mar 08
James, Sheffield says...
4:34pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Icke should stop over-egging the pudding with stuff that most people not only disbelieve, but which also discredits the more sensible things he says.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
4:02pm Tue 25 Mar 08
Don, U.S.A. says...
2:37pm Fri 9 May 08
Michael, Europe says...
3:15pm Fri 9 May 08
Michael, Europe says...
4:07pm Fri 9 May 08
alan, ny says...
4:40pm Fri 9 May 08
ptor spricenieks, earth says...
5:35pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:Hey Robert,
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
sooty2, japan says...
6:35pm Fri 9 May 08
Slick, UK says...
6:47pm Fri 9 May 08
Helio, USA says...
8:00pm Fri 9 May 08
paul, London says...
8:17pm Fri 9 May 08
robert, toronto says...
8:18pm Fri 9 May 08
Cafe beelzebub, Earth says...
8:38pm Fri 9 May 08
tom, liverpool says...
9:27pm Fri 9 May 08
ersoy, clapham says...
10:34pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:hmm so he's not allowed to earn a living? if money was his goal wouldn't he have stayed with the beeb, surely that would have been far more lucrative
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
jesusdwarka, southwest usa says...
10:47pm Fri 9 May 08
quotecan't thank david enough for what he is doing....next to Osho, david is the best out there....
Slam, Tony says...
10:51pm Fri 9 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:God you read his stuff quick! Dickhead. Yawn...
I\\\\\\\'ve heard of his stuff
You know it\\\\\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it\\\\\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He\\\\\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
Matthew, Scotland says...
12:11am Sat 10 May 08
Nicky, London says...
12:15am Sat 10 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:Robert Lindblad. I wonder if you have ever actually bothered to read any of David Icke's books? I shouldn't think so judging by your ignorant comment. David Icke is becoming more popular and now gives sell out talks.
I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.
alan page, says...
12:38am Sat 10 May 08
Phil, Brussels says...
12:40am Sat 10 May 08
philip travers, Tyringham. N.S.W. 2453 says...
8:06am Sat 10 May 08
Kenner, california says...
8:22am Sat 10 May 08
Anne, Asia says...
9:02am Sat 10 May 08
Anne, Asia says...
9:05am Sat 10 May 08
jimbo, york says...
12:33pm Sat 10 May 08
Stuart wrote:david is no longer a member of the green or any other party and has not been for a considerable time the clue is in the article"politicl
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
quotepartys are a sham"
Jack, Oxford says...
9:10pm Sat 10 May 08
paul, london says...
10:59pm Sat 10 May 08
Wibble flibble, The Planet Zanussi says...
11:07pm Sat 10 May 08
Stan, says...
1:30am Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
4:39am Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
4:55am Sun 11 May 08
Steevin Harper, Melbourne Australia says...
5:12am Sun 11 May 08
ptor spricenieks wrote:Gosh Robert, you have only heard of the stuff he writes about so your now qualified to comment.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
david, London says...
10:59am Sun 11 May 08
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
4:24pm Sun 11 May 08
Rob Pettersen, London says...
10:32pm Sun 11 May 08
earthakit, says...
10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
earthakit, says...
10:48pm Sun 11 May 08
nell, ny says...
12:08am Mon 12 May 08
Keeft, UK says...
1:51am Mon 12 May 08
Jeff Amigon, Accra. Ghana. West Africa says...
1:31pm Mon 12 May 08
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
1:53pm Mon 12 May 08
earthakit wrote:Dear earthakit ,
Nobody has mentioned the common people that happen to be Jews. As Icke has said, they\\\'re just as fooled as everybody else. As to the Protocols Of The Elders Of Zion- some people have obviously not read them, because the points in the Protocls - WHOEVER IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THEM- have been implimented little by little - and one by one. And YES, there is a CONSPIRACY - AGAINST the common, every day people of the world, which is why there is all the economic, political prolems - and racial divisiveness, and invention of religions. When you\\\'re told there are no conspiracies, and made to look like a fool for believing there is, check out JUST who is telling you that - the general news media- or the government (3 Branches) or military, the 3 which are hand-in-glove together? All 3 working together? You have to use your logic, look around and connect the dots, across the Board. It really is time to stop being embarrassed that people should say, you believe in Conspiracies, and stop letting skeptics and shills get away with making one look like fools. Time to talk back FORCEFULLY. We have much to lose otherwise. Thank God there are brave pioneers like Icke who care for us enough to keep on fighting for us- to help us.
earthakit2, NY says...
9:02pm Mon 12 May 08
earthakit2, ny says...
9:15pm Mon 12 May 08
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
3:18pm Tue 13 May 08
earthakit2 wrote:Dear earthakit2 ,
Ian: You also said as re. Icke: "He plays With Fire by Endorsing Them !!!" In all fairness to Icke, I have read his writings, and always have seen that Icke is ONLY presenting them for people to peruse and be AWARE of what is going on. Icke has NEVER endorsed the Protocols, he's only showing them to people. In a court of law, the accused should be aware of what they're being accused of. Don't you think that's the right thing? I have skimmed through the Protocols - they can only cause people to shudder in horror. It is so obvious an Unbalanced Force is behind them. It is obvious it is NOT human beings, of any religion or race of this Planet. Icke is a Spiritual person. So, to be fair to Icke, in all his writings, has NEVER endorsed the Protocols.
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
4:15pm Tue 13 May 08
earthakit2 wrote:Dear earthakit2 ,
Yes, I understand and appreciate, that you are trying to teach me about the Protocols and the Pogroms against the Jews. Of course, who in their Sprititual Self wants wrongs done to others? I certainly don\'t! But you have to also know what is going on. I think it is pertinent to read these Protocols. Whoever wrote them and from whatever source they\'ve come from - I believe it\'s a leak from the Unbalanced Force. And don\'t doubt that they\'re being implemented. Have you read them? Who really are the Elders of Zion? As to the Pogroms, if you do research,serious research with an open mind, and not with the mind to be offended, you will find that the instigators of the Pogroms were Jewish leaders - NOT the poor, everyday Jewish people - like you and me. And not to mention that the originators of Marxism were Jews. And I also want to remind, that later, the survivors of the concentration camps were/are witness to the fact that the intermediaries between the prisoners and the Nazis in the camps - were Jewish and these were the WORST abusers, and crueler to their own Jewish people than the Nazis. I\'m not making this up, or trying to hurt Jews. This has been documented. So were do we stand? Something is wrong in representation here. Who is really responsible for all the genocides and cruelty. IMO, what is going on here, is that some Force is standing behind the false propaganda that Jews are responsible, some Unbalanced Force is behind what has gone on. Is going on. And pretending it\'s the Jews. I don\'t think it\'s human beings causing all the chaos, because in ourselves, we are NOT capable of doing such horrors. But you can\'t deny - and hide your eyes and put blinkers on, that something is wrong. You can\'t say tht this that or the other is a forgery and refuse to read it, and not be aware of the contents of the text of the Protocols.
earthakit2, ny says...
4:29pm Wed 14 May 08
Ken Hal, UK says...
4:43pm Wed 14 May 08
Stuart wrote:No he definately is NOT a member of the greens. he can see that they are just as deluded as all the other political parties and if they ever got close to being electable, that they would be infiltraded and taken over from the inside like the Labour party has been.
So is he still a member of the Green party? If so that speaks volumes.
Ken Hal, UK says...
4:52pm Wed 14 May 08
Robert Lindblad wrote:Profit? Whose profit?
I've heard of his stuff
You know it's easy to write a book based on 100%
bullshit with a few visual and textual associations,
even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in.
OK I just checked for you on him.
It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa
and manipulation.
If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free!
Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit.
He's a good fake documentary bullshitter.
That is all.
Ian Sternberg, Harwell says...
5:20pm Wed 14 May 08
Paul Mairs, Blackpool says...
11:26pm Thu 15 May 08
David Icke fan, dark side of the moon says...
9:49am Fri 16 May 08
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
2:31pm Mon 19 May 08
ptor spricenieks wrote:Ya put it on the internet for free.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
2:38pm Mon 19 May 08
ersoy wrote:Ya he can earn a living but not by bullshitting people which he seems to have done quite well at doing to others including you.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I\\\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.hmm so he\'s not allowed to earn a living? if money was his goal wouldn\'t he have stayed with the beeb, surely that would have been far more lucrative
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
2:45pm Mon 19 May 08
Slam wrote:I do not need to read his stuff to know he is a bullshitter. If you have not figured that out yet it may be because your brain is too tired to work at the moment causing you to yawn
Robert Lindblad wrote: I\\\\\\\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\\\\\\\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\\\\\\\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\\\\\\\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.God you read his stuff quick! Dickhead. Yawn...
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
3:08pm Mon 19 May 08
Nicky wrote:No I never bothered reading his bullshit as I can see just by looking at him that he is a profiteering bullshitter.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I\'ve heard of his stuff You know it\'s easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it\'s a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He\'s a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Robert Lindblad. I wonder if you have ever actually bothered to read any of David Icke's books? I shouldn't think so judging by your ignorant comment. David Icke is becoming more popular and now gives sell out talks. All the comments in support of David here are intelligent and give ample information for you to check out for yourself that proves what Icke is saying. I also notice that those who dismiss him as a kook or as a 'Conspiracy Theorist', refuse to debate any of the issues that he disgusses or make any attempt to back up their hollow insults with any real substance. I can say after reading six or so of his books that what he says makes perfect sense to me. You would have to be an idiot not to be able to see how insane the world is. Perhaps it is you that is a bullshitter. Also, could you tell me how it is possible to publish so much information for free and still eat? I'd love to know.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
3:21pm Mon 19 May 08
Steevin Harper wrote:Knowing his name is enough for me to know he is a bullshitter.
ptor spricenieks wrote:Gosh Robert, you have only heard of the stuff he writes about so your now qualified to comment. I began reading the information he writes about 14 year's ago. Got more than I expected over the year's ahead, much more than you could ever imagine. All thank's to the INFORMATION pal.Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Hey Robert, Maybe you can show me how to publish 100,000 copies and distribute MY new glossy coffeetable book for free. Then would you believe ME? Did they kick you out of kindergarten for calling bullshit on the word/picture association your teacher used on you and the books they paid for? You are a **** fake commentary bullshitter.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
3:31pm Mon 19 May 08
Ken Hal wrote:Knowledge quantum mechanics/physics means you know of quantum mechanics/physics nothing more and nothing less.
Robert Lindblad wrote: I've heard of his stuff You know it's easy to write a book based on 100% bullshit with a few visual and textual associations, even though they have nothing to do with it, thrown in. OK I just checked for you on him. It is 100% bullshit... it's a good story that people can easily get sucked into through word/picture associationa and manipulation. If you think about it without having psychicly examined it like me you should ask yourself if what he says is so crucially important for the human race then he should be giving it away for free! Rather than writting new editions and books to be sold for pure profit. He's a good fake documentary bullshitter. That is all.Profit? Whose profit? David Icke does not see one penny from his books. Besides, why should someone who has spent the best part of 2 decades researching, traveling the world to speak to the relevent experts and witnesses to write interesting and entetaining and thought provoking books in order to give them away free? Do YOU work for free? If not, then shut your face you disgusting hypocrite. As for his work being bullshit, well, he has never asked for anyone to believe him. he does not care if you do or don't. He is not trying to pursuade anyone. He is just putting the information out there. And actually if you were not utterly retarded and did some research, you would realise that much of what Mr Icke writes about is acknowledged contemprary understanding within the quantum mechanics/physics circles. The nature of reality being percieved as frequency fields in the same way as a hologram has been understood for many years as the old book "the holographic universe" shows.
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
5:36pm Mon 19 May 08
Paul Mairs wrote:More like you can convince yourself to believe anything if you choose to however believing it does not make it so and when you choose to dismiss hard proven evidence over something that you have read then you are misleading yourself.
I think david Icke is a national hero...having read 3 books of his now, I am in no doubt whatsoever that the Illuminati are screwing us big time...what astounds, and frustrates me,is that sheep like Robert Lindblad post comments like he has done..this pathetic creature calls David Icke the 'bullshitter'!!!...a re you **** kidding me pal??!!..this idiot lives in the same world where the Rothschilds, Rockefellers and Windsor`s (to name a few) are constantly bullshitting to serve their purposes..the amazing thing is that Robert 'The Sheep'Lindblad has not got the foggiest idea this is happening to him!!...David Icke is 100% spot on, and more people have to recognise his ideas and research in the light it deserves...ok, the reptilian shape-shifting notion is hard to grasp at first, but with an open mind, intelligence and by undertaking some research, I truly believe that there is 100% substance behind these claims...David Icke is fantastic, there should be more of his type exposing the fakers, bullshitters and nonsense that is being portrayed on a daily basis in this **** up world
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
5:49pm Mon 19 May 08
nick, the ether says...
9:22pm Sun 25 May 08
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
5:21pm Mon 26 May 08
Paul Mairs, Blackpool says...
1:36pm Fri 6 Jun 08
alina, south africa says...
9:46am Sun 8 Jun 08
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
6:27pm Mon 16 Jun 08
Paul Mairs wrote:Ya if you know anything about me you know I can tell David's a tripe artist just by knowing his name.
Hey Robert \'The Sheep\' Lindblad, people have had enough of your rash, sweeping comments now!!..what a fool you are making of yourself pal!.you claim not to have read any of his books and that you can \"tell by knowing his name\" that he is a tripe artist?!!!...ok then mate, that`s a very sound and informative statement to make!..I wouldn`t like to be sat in a bar chatting with you if that statement is anything to go by!..you seem more dumb than I first gave you credit for !..haha!..this world is full of clowns, just like yourself Bob, who go around spouting their mouth off about people and events, yet they know absolutely f*ck all about them!!..you have not read any of his material or been to see him talk, although you claim what he writes and talks about is tripe!!..just sit back and think what an idiot that really makes you Bob!!..Luckily, there are many open-minded, intelligent people posting comments on here, so in my opinion, you are coming across as a f*cking mug mate!
Robert Lindblad, Montreal says...
1:08am Tue 17 Jun 08
Paul Russell, Victoria Australia says...
3:59am Tue 17 Jun 08
Jo, Scotland says...
8:54pm Sun 20 Jul 08
Jo, Scotland says...
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David, Headington says...
7:48pm Fri 29 Feb 08
Mr Icke awaits your reply!
Beware reptilian humanoids that are controlling the world.
Rumour has it that they are, or have, set up a base in BBL.
May explain some recent posts!