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300 crush into two-car train

7:32pm Thursday 14th February 2008

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More than 300 rail passengers squeezed into two coaches from Oxford to London - because First Great Western failed to provide the booked train.

An InterCity 125 High Speed Train, with eight coaches and seats for about 500 people, should have been used on Sunday afternoon.

But a two-car Thames Turbo train was used instead, due to a "basic error", said FGW managers yesterday.

The Turbo had only 186 seats, which meant it was standing room only for about 50 passengers in each coach.

FGW spokesman Lance Cole apologised to pass- engers and added: "This certainly will not happen every Sunday."

His colleague Richard Smith said there were a "high number of standing passengers" on the train, but he added that customers were getting on and off along the route, so the total of 300 people might have changed.

He said: "This was certainly not acceptable and we have launched an internal investigation.

"There is no legal limit in terms of the total number of standing passengers and the Rail Safety and Standards Board says there is no evidence to say that standing passengers are at risk."

Zahra Akkerhuys, a spokesman for commuter group OxRail Action, which represents commuters between Oxford and London, said she was not surprised by the incident.

She added: "The 7.30am from Oxford to Paddington was late three times in the past week and yesterdaythursday it was 20 minutes late.

"The driver himself was so exasperated he urged passengers to complain to the company.

"We have had a meeting with Andrew Haines, the new chief operating officer, and he has promised that passengers will start to see green shoots of recovery, but the company is still not delivering its timetable."

Mr Cole said trains had been delayed during the past week for a variety of reasons, including a suicide at Slough last Friday, vandals damaging signal cables and a track circuit failure.

News of the overcrowding emerged at the same time as a survey showing FGW had imposed the second highest average fare increases of any operator since privatisation. Since 1995, the average standard peak-hour, walk-on single fare on First Great Western has risen by 145 per cent.

FGW consistently comes at or near the bottom of rail punctuality tables and latest figures show almost a fifth of its trains ran late last year.

Season ticket increases have been much lower, because these fares are capped by the Government and users get discounts if operators fail to meet punctuality targets.

Mr Cole added: "First Great Western is investing over £200m in its franchise and is the only train operator which is refreshing all the trains in its fleet.

"The current First Great Western franchise brought together three former franchises in 2006, and the company believes that its customers receive good value from season tickets, and that the range of advance fares on offer allow flexibility for off-peak customers."


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g, oxon says...
8:02pm Thu 14 Feb 08

14 years since privatization. Things are progressing so well?
"we're getting there"

Mr Ison, England says...
8:17pm Thu 14 Feb 08

Can you say a policy of rack and ruin?

Ivor, The Shed says...
9:08pm Thu 14 Feb 08

Mr Ison wrote:
Can you say a policy of rack and ruin?
No. Track and chooing!

alan page, says...
11:34pm Thu 14 Feb 08

Ivor wrote:
Mr Ison wrote: Can you say a policy of rack and ruin?
No. Track and chooing!
Well I'm well chuffed anyway.

homer, springfield says...
7:59am Fri 15 Feb 08

i am sorry to say this, but when platform staff realised what was happening, they should have taken steps to limit the number of people boarding. on a journey like this there should not have to be any standing passengers. if you walk out of oxford station, turn left and continue up to gloucester green, you will find a bus station. from there you can get a coach into london, guarenteed seat, for £15 return. you also get a on-board toilet that works, and wi-fi. come folks vote with your wallets and take the coach instead

sue, oxford says...
8:00am Fri 15 Feb 08

If there had been an accident, There would of been carnige. I suppose all Great Western are thinking of money, just pack people in like sardines

Andy, says...
9:21am Fri 15 Feb 08

Homer,
Oxford to Paddington 1 hour on the train, Oxford to Marble Arch 2 hours minimum(including 45 minutes to get to Thornhill) No contest really.

Noam, Oxford says...
11:04am Fri 15 Feb 08

TEST

Noam, Oxford says...
11:09am Fri 15 Feb 08

Sorry, had to run the "TEST" as this site often does not accept posts.

Andy, Homer, stop it. The "bus vs rail" argument is redundant. Both modes on this particular Ox-Ldn flow are valid, and it's horses for courses. If you live in Headington and need to get back from London at 0200, you use the bus. If you live on the Botley Rd and are travelling back at 1800, you use the train.

I tend to use the train, as for £14.55 with a Network South East card, I can get a day return + travelcard. Not only is this cheaper than the bus but allows me to travel all over London . In this particular case the train is better.

THe bus service is however excellent, and much better than the train when travelling back to Ox after about 2100, so I use this too.

JJ, London says...
2:08pm Fri 15 Feb 08

It is standing room only every Sunday afternoon on the Oxford to London Paddington train.

gharris, cyprus says...
7:44am Sat 16 Feb 08

[I am glad Cyprus does not have train

Whistleblower, Oxford says...
2:23pm Sat 16 Feb 08

homer wrote:
i am sorry to say this, but when platform staff realised what was happening, they should have taken steps to limit the number of people boarding. on a journey like this there should not have to be any standing passengers. if you walk out of oxford station, turn left and continue up to gloucester green, you will find a bus station. from there you can get a coach into london, guarenteed seat, for £15 return. you also get a on-board toilet that works, and wi-fi. come folks vote with your wallets and take the coach instead
Platform staff have no jurisdiction on limiting passengers on boarding I am afraid :( Most the time we find out the trains a Turbo vice HST at the last minute. If we find out atleast half hour befoe then we will try and advise passengers to take alternative services but this very rarely happens internal communications on train running is very poor :( its Station Staff & Commuters v FGW

The probable real reason for this is the driver booked for the job did not drive HSTs or there was no Guard available.

Will, Worcestershire says...
8:20pm Sat 16 Feb 08

Mr Cole is wrong!

Chiltern Railways have refurbished all of thier fleet (as have many other TOCs no doubt!).

As for FGW, they are a disgrace. Those Thames Tubos are dreadful.

Whistleblower, Oxford says...
1:20pm Sun 17 Feb 08

Will wrote:
Mr Cole is wrong! Chiltern Railways have refurbished all of thier fleet (as have many other TOCs no doubt!). As for FGW, they are a disgrace. Those Thames Tubos are dreadful.
Will your be pleased to know that FGW are planning, starting May 08, a complete refresh of the Turbos with uncomfortable airline seating and adding more capacity in the turbo so that the traveling public can be even closer in touch with each other!!

Buffet cars are being removed out of some HSTs and going to be replaced with a trolley service throughut the whole train, like thats going to work with a train full and standing!

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