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Cameras will finally enforce city car ban

8:43am Monday 5th February 2007

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Drivers flouting traffic restrictions in Oxford's historic High Street will be fined £60 when new spy cameras 'go live' this month.

The cameras - first promised six years ago - will catch drivers who ignore the daily ban on city centre traffic between 7.30am and 6.30pm by recording the registration numbers of outlawed vehicles.

Fixed penalties will start to be imposed when the system goes live on Monday, February 26.

Bus gate restriction points were introduced in city centre locations when the Oxford Transport Strategy was launched in 1999, and only buses, taxis and licensed private hire vehicles are allowed through during the day. But drivers have been given a free rein to ignore the ban - because a legal loophole meant no-one could be prosecuted using CCTV footage.

A recent change in legislation has now made enforcement possible for the first time.

Steve Howell, head of transport at Oxfordshire County Council, said: "It's great news the cameras are finally going live as we have been concerned about the increasing numbers of people abusing the restrictions.

"We are confident the cameras will provide an effective way of deterring offenders, which will help decrease journey times for bus passengers and improve the city centre environment for everyone."

A survey carried out by the Oxford Mail last year showed 200 drivers an hour flouted the ban.

The amount of private traffic still using High Street during the day was cited as one of the reasons buses ran late.

The bus gates in Castle Street, George Street and Magdalen Street will also be monitored by CCTV.

In the run-up, police will be increasing their presence at the four restricted points.

As with ordinary parking fines, the £60 penalties will be reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days.

Carfax city councillor Paul Sargent said: "It's a problem because during the daytime, vans, trucks and cars in the High Street just add to the problem of congestion.

"Six years ago, we were promised less congestion and, with it, the tools for congestion management - this is long overdue.

"We have high levels of pollution in the city centre. Any reduction in traffic is going to help reduce harmful pollution. And if you have got restricted areas, it's safer for pedestrians.

"If you want a society where people police themselves, you are living in cloud cuckoo land - you need some stick.

"As soon as a few people have had fines and word gets around, then people will stop doing it and then it polices itself.

"If people are foolish enough to keep doing it, then they are going to get fined."

Oxford Bus Company director Louisa Weeks said: "We're delighted that the cameras are now ready for use. The delay has been difficult for everyone.

"We've found it frustrating to watch the vehicles that are banned from the High Street flouting the laws and undoing our environmental work."

Chris Child, a spokesman for Stagecoach buses in Oxford, said: "We welcome the introduction of new cameras.

"This should go a long way to enforcing the legal restrictions along the High Street, improving bus access and reducing con- gestion."


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Steven, says...
9:58am Mon 5 Feb 07

About time too. I know a taxi-driver who has to pay to use the High Street while illegal traffic uses it for nothing. It is also annoying during the roadworks to sit on a bus held at the lights for a long time while a stream of illegal traffic passes by on the other side.

George, says...
9:59am Mon 5 Feb 07

The A420 is a public road. It is funded by the public for use by the public - how can it be illegal to use a public road?

James Dore, says...
10:00am Mon 5 Feb 07

Um, because of the legislation that went through the County Council in order to make the restriction? Just as it's also illegal to use a motor vehicle on a public road without a valid tax disc and MOT.

"Public" does not equal "unrestricted use" - How can it be illegal to use a public road - good grief.....

Sarah Boada-Momtahan, Oxford says...
10:41am Mon 5 Feb 07

Does this finally mean that the Council will get its act together and issue business permits so we can use the High Street? I mean it now cost us double, not mention doubling the amount of pollution we cause, to drive all the way around the city on some days when traffic is bad and we are already paying £12,000 in business rates for the privilage.

George, says...
10:51am Mon 5 Feb 07

James Dore wrote:
Um, because of the legislation that went through the County Council in order to make the restriction? Just as it's also illegal to use a motor vehicle on a public road without a valid tax disc and MOT. "Public" does not equal "unrestricted use" - How can it be illegal to use a public road - good grief.....
The issue isn't about MOT or Tax - it about preventing poeple who fund rhe highways from using those highways. Just because you choose to be obtuse does not make your point any more valid. So the County Council now has power introduce legislation? This was a change in the law, effected by parliament. Good grief....

James Dore, says...
12:01pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George,

My point is that /all/ road use is subject to some form of legislation and restriction: I was using MOT and Tax as an analogy but maybe that was too subtle for you. Yes, we fund the highways (in part) but that does not mean we have unrestricted use of them, or even the right to use them per se. Indeed, it's the other way round: In order to use a vehichle on the roads, we need to submit to certain conditions - road tax being one, a valid licence for the vehicle we're operating anoter, and a roadworhty vehicle being a third. The only people with the right to use the public highway without all that are pedestrians - who aren't going to be limited by the cameras - and even they are subject to some regulation. The rules are there, they're clearly signposted, and they've been known about for six years. That's plenty of time for them to be opposed or modified, or complained about to the right people, surely?

Paul, Witney says...
12:14pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Just another ploy by the council to get more money out of us.

Maybe they should put the same sort of effort in to getting sll the uninsured drivers off the road.

Oh no - that would mean actually doing something which isn't just whacking a fine on us.

Congratulations to the council for finding something else to fill your wage packets you get for sitting on your arses and doing absolutely nothing!

Joey, oxford says...
12:15pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Well i have used it for years on my motorbike and never in my car, so thank god i own a flip up plate so they wont see my reg number as i nip through = )

George, says...
12:17pm Mon 5 Feb 07

No, not too subtle - I refrained from listing all the legalities as I consider others have the intelligence to be aware of such things. Please show where any of my comments reference "unrestricted use". I have previously raised concerns re this matter but have recived no replies from any authority.

Tony Brett, Oxford says...
12:17pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George: Local authorities do have power to legislate. That power is given to them by government. Oxon CC is the Highways authority and can make certain byelaws about traffic, among other things. Do you think the government has to discuss every new set of yellow lines or residents parking scheme in the county?

James Dore, says...
12:33pm Mon 5 Feb 07

I'm always baffled by complaints about these cameras. If you don't want to get caught, don't break the law! No one puts a gun to your head and tells you to go through a restriction illegally. If you don't want to pay a speeding fine then don't exceed the speed limit; if you don't want to pay a parking ticket, don't park illegally. These are all fines that arise out of our choice of action.

C, Oxford says...
12:50pm Mon 5 Feb 07

I don't know why anyone would want to go up and down the High Street at the moment, the traffic is awful, you can be waiting in traffic for anything up to 15mins, waiting for lights to change!!!

George, says...
1:46pm Mon 5 Feb 07

TB - that might be the case but this legislation is not a byelaw

JD - please indicate where previous comments complain about being caught on camera(s) or show any willingness to break any law.

James Dore, says...
2:06pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George wrote:
TB - that might be the case but this legislation is not a byelaw

JD - please indicate where previous comments complain about being caught on camera(s) or show any willingness to break any law.
George - you're quite right, none of your comments include any of those things. But your original complaint "how can it be illegal to use a public road?" isn't valid either - nowhere in the article does it say it's illegal to use the public road. It's going to be more tightly restricted certainly, but your original comment read as from someone who thinks they're having non-existant "rights" curtailed.

George, says...
3:00pm Mon 5 Feb 07

From the article: "... - will catch drivers who ignore the daily ban on city centre traffic between 7.30am and 6.30pm by recording the registration numbers of outlawed vehicles ."

So it isn't law, just a restriction? Non-existent rights?

Mark, Oxford says...
3:42pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George, the word "outlawed" was used by the journalist who wrote the article, not by the CC. don't confuse journalistic hyperbole with facts!

The fact is that the Highways act gives county councils the power to introduce this kind of restriction. And so disregarding the restriction would be an illegal act.

George, says...
4:04pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Mark, that is the point I was making i.e. that it is illegal - it wasn't me who wrote "nowhere in the article does it say it's illegal.."

Phil, Oxford says...
4:25pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George. I may be wrong but I believe you could drive down Cornmarket Street before restrictions were put in place. Would you like to drive down Cornmarket Street as well? Should your right to drive come before everyone else who uses chooses to shop in Cornmarket Street? We can compare this to the High street.

There is just no way that the volume of people travelling through High street could be accommodated in private vehicles during peak times. This is why you are not allowed to drive. George I assume that you are only used to travelling by your car - I suggest you address this dependency as it does not do you, or anyone any good.

George, says...
4:39pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Phil, Cornmarket is a shopping arcade not an 'A' road, the High Street is the A420. As for your assumptions (odd that you state an assumption then instruct to remove "this dependency" as though it were factual) , I drive occasionally but use the train to get to work. I walk, cycle, ride a motorcycle (I even use the wife's moped now and again) so I am not dependent upon a car.

Phil, Oxford says...
5:22pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George, Yes I should not make assumptions.

But my point was that the status of Cornmarket Street has changed from allowing private vehicles to not allowing private vehicles. The Status of High Street has also changed. There are many presidents for changing the status of roads.

Oh, and to answer your first question I’m sure it’s not illegal for the public to use High Street.

George, says...
5:33pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Phil wrote:
George, Yes I should not make assumptions. But my point was that the status of Cornmarket Street has changed from allowing private vehicles to not allowing private vehicles. The Status of High Street has also changed. There are many presidents for changing the status of roads. Oh, and to answer your first question I’m sure it’s not illegal for the public to use High Street.
The subject relates to motorised traffic using the road. Can't comment on presidents in favour of changing roads.

Anthony, Oxford says...
6:12pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George, the fact is you are wrong - the law IS in place and can be enforced. If in doubt, try driving down the road on Feb 26th. If you don't like it (and you are fully within your rights to do so), I suggest you stand for office on this platform and try to get elected. Good luck!

George, says...
6:17pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Anthony wrote:
George, the fact is you are wrong - the law IS in place and can be enforced. If in doubt, try driving down the road on Feb 26th. If you don't like it (and you are fully within your rights to do so), I suggest you stand for office on this platform and try to get elected. Good luck!
Please show me any comments where I say the law can not be enforced.

Anthony, Oxford says...
6:22pm Mon 5 Feb 07

George, your first comment is "how can it be illegal to use a public road?"

You have been informed several times how this is possible. Do not waste everyone's time on this forum by playing silly word-games.

I expect this level of comment is why you "have previously raised concerns re this matter but have recived no replies from any authority".

George, says...
7:59pm Mon 5 Feb 07

Anthony wrote:
George, your first comment is "how can it be illegal to use a public road?" You have been informed several times how this is possible. Do not waste everyone's time on this forum by playing silly word-games. I expect this level of comment is why you "have previously raised concerns re this matter but have recived no replies from any authority".
Silly word games? I asked you a question you can not answer, that is your limitation not mine.

Ed, Oxford says...
10:19pm Mon 5 Feb 07

I welcome the cameras but saying they are going to reduce pollution with nearly 3000 buses a day going up the High St is a nonsense as Paul Sargent well knows.

We need to remove ALL traffic from the High St and St Aldates. This historic city cannot take the traffic it already has. Bite the bullet and get trams like Nottingham!!!

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Bob Smith, says...
7:00pm Mon 12 Feb 07

Just another ploy by the council to get more money out of us.
Well, it's been bus only for years, and as long as your not stupid enought to go through it, you won't get fined

Bob Smith, says...
7:01pm Mon 12 Feb 07

Joey wrote:
Well i have used it for years on my motorbike and never in my car, so thank god i own a flip up plate so they wont see my reg number as i nip through = )
Who cares about motobikes going through, it's not going to cuase traffic congestion

Bob Smith, says...
1:53pm Wed 14 Feb 07

Ed wrote:
I welcome the cameras but saying they are going to reduce pollution with nearly 3000 buses a day going up the High St is a nonsense as Paul Sargent well knows. We need to remove ALL traffic from the High St and St Aldates. This historic city cannot take the traffic it already has. Bite the bullet and get trams like Nottingham!!!
Yes, but about 3000 cars went through it a day so it would cut pollution by half, if not more.

Richard, Swindon says...
7:38pm Thu 15 Feb 07

Can someone please help me on this matter of the cameras? I drive a van and have to deliver to the town hall and some of the colleges,how will this affect me or will I be fined if I continue to visit these places ?

nicky F1, oxford says...
6:57pm Mon 8 Oct 07

Time to tear up the Oxford Transport Strategy.
Time to remove Keith Mitchell and his Tory friends from power. Beat the bus gate with the Bill of Rights Act 1689.

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