Confusing tale of two signs calls for a speedy solution

Newsagent Kulwant Singh in front of the signs in Whitehouse Road

Newsagent Kulwant Singh in front of the signs in Whitehouse Road

First published in News

DRIVERS should be paying attention to the roads when watching their speed limit.

They certainly don’t need distractions like these signs spotted yesterday at the junction of Whitehouse and Abingdon roads, Oxford.

It appeared one of two speed limit signs had been flipped – leading motorists confused as to whether the limit was 20mph or 30mph.

Kulwant Singh, owner of nearby newsagent The Local Top Up Store, said: “Customers have been coming into the shop to ask me what is going on. It is really very stupid. I hope the council is not responsible for this. We pay them all this money and they can’t even put signs up properly.”

Oxfordshire County Council spokesman Martin Crabtree said the authority would report the incident but that it was a road maintained by Oxford City Council.

City council spokeswoman Chris Lee said: “We will investigate the signage issue and rectify the matter today.”

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8:45am Thu 31 Jul 14

London_Ox says...

"It is really very stupid. I hope the council is not responsible for this"

Of course it's the Council, who else would it be?! Would somebody produce and put up such signs at their own expense and off their own back..

Now that would be really very stupid.. lol
"It is really very stupid. I hope the council is not responsible for this" Of course it's the Council, who else would it be?! Would somebody produce and put up such signs at their own expense and off their own back.. Now that would be really very stupid.. lol London_Ox
  • Score: -6

9:13am Thu 31 Jul 14

Localad says...

London_Ox wrote:
"It is really very stupid. I hope the council is not responsible for this"

Of course it's the Council, who else would it be?! Would somebody produce and put up such signs at their own expense and off their own back..

Now that would be really very stupid.. lol
Or, as the article suggests, someone has turned one sign through 180 degrees, one can hardly blame the Council for that
[quote][p][bold]London_Ox[/bold] wrote: "It is really very stupid. I hope the council is not responsible for this" Of course it's the Council, who else would it be?! Would somebody produce and put up such signs at their own expense and off their own back.. Now that would be really very stupid.. lol[/p][/quote]Or, as the article suggests, someone has turned one sign through 180 degrees, one can hardly blame the Council for that Localad
  • Score: 14

10:14am Thu 31 Jul 14

HomerSimpsonDoh says...

They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.
They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault. HomerSimpsonDoh
  • Score: -11

10:36am Thu 31 Jul 14

Neonlights says...

HomerSimpsonDoh wrote:
They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.
If the 20 mph limit was returned to a 30 mph limit then it wouldn't matter which was around it was turned.
[quote][p][bold]HomerSimpsonDoh[/bold] wrote: They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.[/p][/quote]If the 20 mph limit was returned to a 30 mph limit then it wouldn't matter which was around it was turned. Neonlights
  • Score: -4

11:32am Thu 31 Jul 14

BigAlBiker says...

20mph is a joke, modern vehicles are well equipped to be safe at these speeds, 30mph is normal for our roads.
20mph is a joke, modern vehicles are well equipped to be safe at these speeds, 30mph is normal for our roads. BigAlBiker
  • Score: -2

11:52am Thu 31 Jul 14

WestQuarterJ says...

I'm open to being told I'm wrong, but isn't it pretty obvious that the 30 limit is for the big main road running in and out of Oxford, and the 20 limit is for the little residential side road? I'm not clear how you would get up to 30 on Whitehouse Road anyway.
I'm open to being told I'm wrong, but isn't it pretty obvious that the 30 limit is for the big main road running in and out of Oxford, and the 20 limit is for the little residential side road? I'm not clear how you would get up to 30 on Whitehouse Road anyway. WestQuarterJ
  • Score: 3

11:53am Thu 31 Jul 14

WestQuarterJ says...

HomerSimpsonDoh wrote:
They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.
Calling Harry Potter... we need an immovable object.
[quote][p][bold]HomerSimpsonDoh[/bold] wrote: They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.[/p][/quote]Calling Harry Potter... we need an immovable object. WestQuarterJ
  • Score: 3

12:20pm Thu 31 Jul 14

King Joke says...

WestQuarterJ wrote:
HomerSimpsonDoh wrote:
They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.
Calling Harry Potter... we need an immovable object.
Where there's a will there's a way. IF someone really wants to move, alter or deface a sign they will do it. By your logic Homer, grafitti us the council's fault too.
[quote][p][bold]WestQuarterJ[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]HomerSimpsonDoh[/bold] wrote: They should have made sure the signs could not be turned round, so yes the councils fault.[/p][/quote]Calling Harry Potter... we need an immovable object.[/p][/quote]Where there's a will there's a way. IF someone really wants to move, alter or deface a sign they will do it. By your logic Homer, grafitti us the council's fault too. King Joke
  • Score: 3

1:08pm Thu 31 Jul 14

Floflo says...

BigAlBiker wrote:
20mph is a joke, modern vehicles are well equipped to be safe at these speeds, 30mph is normal for our roads.
Vehicles are well equipped to be safe and I do feel very safe when I drive around town. Hit a pedestrian at 20 or 30 you are likely to come away without any bruises. However you need to think of people you share our streets with.

However if a human is hit at a car travelling 20 mph they have an 80% chance of survival. If you are hit by a car travelling at 30 mph you are most likely to be killed.
[quote][p][bold]BigAlBiker[/bold] wrote: 20mph is a joke, modern vehicles are well equipped to be safe at these speeds, 30mph is normal for our roads.[/p][/quote]Vehicles are well equipped to be safe and I do feel very safe when I drive around town. Hit a pedestrian at 20 or 30 you are likely to come away without any bruises. However you need to think of people you share our streets with. However if a human is hit at a car travelling 20 mph they have an 80% chance of survival. If you are hit by a car travelling at 30 mph you are most likely to be killed. Floflo
  • Score: -5

5:14pm Thu 31 Jul 14

TommyC says...

There is now such an overcomplication of speed limits that it's sometimes difficult to know what the speed limit is.

We used to have a perfectly sensible system. 30 mph in residential areas and city centres, 40 mph in semi-urban areas, and national speed limit (60 mph for single carriageways and 70 mph for dual carriageways and motorways) everywhere else. Now as well as the 20 mph limits there's a plague of 50 mph limits on wide A roads. The speed limit can change several times within the space of half a mile or less.
There is now such an overcomplication of speed limits that it's sometimes difficult to know what the speed limit is. We used to have a perfectly sensible system. 30 mph in residential areas and city centres, 40 mph in semi-urban areas, and national speed limit (60 mph for single carriageways and 70 mph for dual carriageways and motorways) everywhere else. Now as well as the 20 mph limits there's a plague of 50 mph limits on wide A roads. The speed limit can change several times within the space of half a mile or less. TommyC
  • Score: 6

1:06am Fri 1 Aug 14

T Chandler says...

Why do we need two signs anyway? You only need one it's just a waste of money.
Why do we need two signs anyway? You only need one it's just a waste of money. T Chandler
  • Score: 0

10:11am Fri 1 Aug 14

WestQuarterJ says...

T Chandler wrote:
Why do we need two signs anyway? You only need one it's just a waste of money.
When the speed limit changes, you need one on each side of the road so people can see the change whichever direction they're coming from...
[quote][p][bold]T Chandler[/bold] wrote: Why do we need two signs anyway? You only need one it's just a waste of money.[/p][/quote]When the speed limit changes, you need one on each side of the road so people can see the change whichever direction they're coming from... WestQuarterJ
  • Score: 0

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