Long Hanborough rail station holds key to A40 traffic, says county council leader

Ian Hudspeth at the opening of the car park extension last July

Ian Hudspeth at the opening of the car park extension last July

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LONG HANBOROUGH railway station could hold the key to unlocking West Oxfordshire’s traffic woes, Oxfordshire County Council leader Ian Hudspeth has claimed.

He said commuters could park at the station, which had its car park increased to 191 spaces last July, before using its rail network, rather than drive on the A40.

Speaking at the latest Connecting Oxfordshire event to discuss transport issues, held in Witney’s Henry Box School on Monday, he said removing just 15 per cent of cars from the road would alleviate congestion. The council is also lobbying Network Rail to connect the line between Long Hanborough and Oxford so its disused second platform could be reopened to increase the number of train services.

Mr Hudspeth said: “It’s a very good turn-up-and-go service in the morning. It can take just eight minutes to get into the centre of Oxford.

“We need to look at other modes of transport. The key message is about having a modal shift and I would urge people to just try using Hanborough station once to see the difference.”

More than 90 people attended the event and aired their views about various transport issues, including the large volume of HGVs passing through Chipping Norton, poor road surfaces in villages, creating better bus links to and from Carterton and problems with overcrowding on the new Go Ride bus service in Witney.

Mr Hudspeth said the council was open to ideas on improving traffic, including a monorail, dedicated bus lane, tram system, guided bus and dualling the A40.

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11:44am Wed 9 Jul 14

Joanna66 says...

And how would the commuters get to the Hanborough station? Oh yeah, along the A4095. I wonder if Councillor Hudspeth has tried using the A4095 between the hours of 7 and 9am... and sat in the queue of traffic from North Leigh, or sometimes Witney... for ages. Not a sensible solution to the A40 problem sir.
And how would the commuters get to the Hanborough station? Oh yeah, along the A4095. I wonder if Councillor Hudspeth has tried using the A4095 between the hours of 7 and 9am... and sat in the queue of traffic from North Leigh, or sometimes Witney... for ages. Not a sensible solution to the A40 problem sir. Joanna66
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12:26pm Wed 9 Jul 14

King Joke says...

What Ian is suggesting, in other words, is to use Hanborough as a P&R station for Oxford. It does beg the question, as Joanna says, of how to accommodate incresed traffic on the Witney-Hanborough Road.
What Ian is suggesting, in other words, is to use Hanborough as a P&R station for Oxford. It does beg the question, as Joanna says, of how to accommodate incresed traffic on the Witney-Hanborough Road. King Joke
  • Score: 1

12:52pm Wed 9 Jul 14

Andrew:Oxford says...

King Joke wrote:
What Ian is suggesting, in other words, is to use Hanborough as a P&R station for Oxford. It does beg the question, as Joanna says, of how to accommodate incresed traffic on the Witney-Hanborough Road.
Well, the best option would be to dual it in an arc from Witney to Bicester.

This would open up vast tracts of the countryside for development too.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: What Ian is suggesting, in other words, is to use Hanborough as a P&R station for Oxford. It does beg the question, as Joanna says, of how to accommodate incresed traffic on the Witney-Hanborough Road.[/p][/quote]Well, the best option would be to dual it in an arc from Witney to Bicester. This would open up vast tracts of the countryside for development too. Andrew:Oxford
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1:00pm Wed 9 Jul 14

King Joke says...

And when that's filled up with traffic in 3-5 years, what then?
And when that's filled up with traffic in 3-5 years, what then? King Joke
  • Score: 0

1:17pm Wed 9 Jul 14

the wizard says...

Hudspeth, not of this planet, universe or dimension, completely deluded and removed from reality. What a joke he is. Total farce in yet another attempt to avoid the issue as he has NO ANSWERS.

Sort out Shores Green, sort out some light rail, remodel round a bouts and invest money in a system that works before the whole issue grinds to a grid locked halt. The man is obviously devoid of reality.
Hudspeth, not of this planet, universe or dimension, completely deluded and removed from reality. What a joke he is. Total farce in yet another attempt to avoid the issue as he has NO ANSWERS. Sort out Shores Green, sort out some light rail, remodel round a bouts and invest money in a system that works before the whole issue grinds to a grid locked halt. The man is obviously devoid of reality. the wizard
  • Score: 1

1:19pm Wed 9 Jul 14

King Joke says...

Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.
Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city. King Joke
  • Score: 1

1:33pm Wed 9 Jul 14

The New Private Eye says...

King Joke wrote:
Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.
As long as Stagecoach and NO public money are involved, and there is no adverse affect on motorists then go ahead with the light rail. But seeing as it will be a financial disaster nobody would take it on.
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.[/p][/quote]As long as Stagecoach and NO public money are involved, and there is no adverse affect on motorists then go ahead with the light rail. But seeing as it will be a financial disaster nobody would take it on. The New Private Eye
  • Score: 0

2:27pm Wed 9 Jul 14

King Joke says...

Er, Stagecoach run the Sheffield tram network quite competently, and I can't see the problem with investing public money in infrastructure with a strong benefits case.

I couldn't see much in the way of adverse effects on motorists. The road journey from Witney to Ox in the am, and v/v in the pm, is so slow, that a couple of flat crossings wouldn't have any impact on end-to-end journey times. Of course many of those who are currently motorists would be able to use the tram, so it would actually be of benefit to them, rather than adverse.
Er, Stagecoach run the Sheffield tram network quite competently, and I can't see the problem with investing public money in infrastructure with a strong benefits case. I couldn't see much in the way of adverse effects on motorists. The road journey from Witney to Ox in the am, and v/v in the pm, is so slow, that a couple of flat crossings wouldn't have any impact on end-to-end journey times. Of course many of those who are currently motorists would be able to use the tram, so it would actually be of benefit to them, rather than adverse. King Joke
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7:39pm Wed 9 Jul 14

fantasticobella says...

It's absolutely pointless to keep doing things piecemeal. You need to chuck everything you have at improving the transport infrastructure before you plan for any more housing. No stand alone solution exists. Instead of building houses in Burford Road or anywhere else in West Oxon, put a station in the valley instead with a proper parkway car park. Link into the Worcester to Oxford line and get a proper number of trains stopping there. Put a bus station in there while you are at it so people can come in and get to other areas of Witney without clogging up the town centre. Get shores Green built and a link to the A40 from Downs Road so you can easily get to the station from Burford, Carterton, Eynsham and surrounds. Yes it's going to cost a fortune, but think of the boost to the economy of West Oxfordshire overall and in the long term. Make it easy for people to commute. Witney's great but it doesn't mean nobody wants to be able to get out of it EVER!
It's absolutely pointless to keep doing things piecemeal. You need to chuck everything you have at improving the transport infrastructure before you plan for any more housing. No stand alone solution exists. Instead of building houses in Burford Road or anywhere else in West Oxon, put a station in the valley instead with a proper parkway car park. Link into the Worcester to Oxford line and get a proper number of trains stopping there. Put a bus station in there while you are at it so people can come in and get to other areas of Witney without clogging up the town centre. Get shores Green built and a link to the A40 from Downs Road so you can easily get to the station from Burford, Carterton, Eynsham and surrounds. Yes it's going to cost a fortune, but think of the boost to the economy of West Oxfordshire overall and in the long term. Make it easy for people to commute. Witney's great but it doesn't mean nobody wants to be able to get out of it EVER! fantasticobella
  • Score: 0

10:58pm Wed 9 Jul 14

By-Tor says...

King Joke wrote:
Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.
Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail?
[quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.[/p][/quote]Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail? By-Tor
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11:11pm Wed 9 Jul 14

the wizard says...

By-Tor wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.
Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail?
For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that.
[quote][p][bold]By-Tor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.[/p][/quote]Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail?[/p][/quote]For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that. the wizard
  • Score: 1

11:39pm Wed 9 Jul 14

By-Tor says...

the wizard wrote:
By-Tor wrote:
King Joke wrote:
Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.
Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail?
For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that.
The wizard wrote:
For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that.
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Hmm, not sure about the concept. Whatever space it takes up will impact on what exists at the moment. It will either reduce carriage-way width or remove cycle-path. Also, light rail will need to be segregated from other modes of transport for safety. Light rail is expensive as prep work is extensive before laying tracks and re-engineering road junctions. Monorail along the A40 margin is the way to go. Driverless vehicles, small footprint and much faster and no affect on existing road junctions. No system will be taken into Oxford IMO, terminal would be at Peartree or new Oxford Parkway station - in Witney, Oxford Hill.
[quote][p][bold]the wizard[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]By-Tor[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]King Joke[/bold] wrote: Robustly put Wizard, but amen to light rail. THere would be no need for a variety of P&R solutions for Witney to Oxford journeys, if much of the town's population were ten minutes' walk from a light rail line into the city.[/p][/quote]Where would the space exist along the A40 corridor for light rail?[/p][/quote]For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that.[/p][/quote]The wizard wrote: For the better part along side the A40, it really doesn't take that much room.Run it on the Carterton, Eynsham side of the main drag, and the Witney Station in the vicinity of the Thames Water/ Ducklington road abbout location. Plenty of room there for expansion, with the round about already in place. No it will not be easy but it is better to put things in place before the developers use up all the available practical space, and if you don't watch him Hudspeth will do exactly that. -------------------- ------------ Hmm, not sure about the concept. Whatever space it takes up will impact on what exists at the moment. It will either reduce carriage-way width or remove cycle-path. Also, light rail will need to be segregated from other modes of transport for safety. Light rail is expensive as prep work is extensive before laying tracks and re-engineering road junctions. Monorail along the A40 margin is the way to go. Driverless vehicles, small footprint and much faster and no affect on existing road junctions. No system will be taken into Oxford IMO, terminal would be at Peartree or new Oxford Parkway station - in Witney, Oxford Hill. By-Tor
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7:26am Thu 10 Jul 14

King Joke says...

Any system terminating on the outskirts wouldn't be attractive enough. If the purpose is to serve Oxford, then serve Oxford it must. Most light rail systems safely share road space with vehicles, both here and on the continent.

A more pressing concern is how to ensure efficient operation at times of traffic congestion. You'd have to run down bus lanes where possible, but at some point signal priority would be needed.
Any system terminating on the outskirts wouldn't be attractive enough. If the purpose is to serve Oxford, then serve Oxford it must. Most light rail systems safely share road space with vehicles, both here and on the continent. A more pressing concern is how to ensure efficient operation at times of traffic congestion. You'd have to run down bus lanes where possible, but at some point signal priority would be needed. King Joke
  • Score: 0

8:47am Thu 10 Jul 14

Statman says...

Forgetting that this marvellous suggestion requires traffic to use the already gridlocked A4095 or the A40 to get to HND station... the poor residents of Long Hanborough have only just got their village back with the addition of the car park, after years of hundreds of vehicles parking just about anywhere they please. The idea that 191 parking spaces would support the additional needs of everyone on the A40 is laughable. The idea that it's easy to find nearby land to HND station to add more spaces (surrounded by beautiful green belt as it is) is also laughable. The idea there is capacity on the existing trains for more users at peak times? Also laughable. In absolutely no way is this any kind of solution to the problem discussed.
Forgetting that this marvellous suggestion requires traffic to use the already gridlocked A4095 or the A40 to get to HND station... the poor residents of Long Hanborough have only just got their village back with the addition of the car park, after years of hundreds of vehicles parking just about anywhere they please. The idea that 191 parking spaces would support the additional needs of everyone on the A40 is laughable. The idea that it's easy to find nearby land to HND station to add more spaces (surrounded by beautiful green belt as it is) is also laughable. The idea there is capacity on the existing trains for more users at peak times? Also laughable. In absolutely no way is this any kind of solution to the problem discussed. Statman
  • Score: 2

8:54am Thu 10 Jul 14

King Joke says...

A fundamental question is where are the heavy volumes of eastbound traffic on the A40 in the am peak and v/v actually going? How much is going to central Oxford? This flow could be accommodated by a Wit-Ox light rail line. The existing bus service is superb but hamstrung by traffic congestion, so light rail would attract more users through quicker journey time.

If a large proportion of the A40 traffic is going somewhere else, we need to know where before suggesting alternative solutions. If it's A34 north then the new slip road will help a bit. If it's London then better rail connectivity to Witney will help. If it's Headington and the large employment site there, then something else. Some research on origins/destinations is required.
A fundamental question is where are the heavy volumes of eastbound traffic on the A40 in the am peak and v/v actually going? How much is going to central Oxford? This flow could be accommodated by a Wit-Ox light rail line. The existing bus service is superb but hamstrung by traffic congestion, so light rail would attract more users through quicker journey time. If a large proportion of the A40 traffic is going somewhere else, we need to know where before suggesting alternative solutions. If it's A34 north then the new slip road will help a bit. If it's London then better rail connectivity to Witney will help. If it's Headington and the large employment site there, then something else. Some research on origins/destinations is required. King Joke
  • Score: 4

10:15pm Thu 10 Jul 14

the wizard says...

As I have written before to make an accurate assessment of what is needed then surely numerous traffic census events need to take place so that peoples movements are accurately targeted. It would be simple to do as much of the traffic is stood for more than long enough. That way an accurate picture is formed.

As for light rail taking land away from other users, WHY ?, when there is enough sensible green space which can be purchased to build for the future. Yes its expensive and so is sitting around as the council have done for 50/60 years, their lack of action has cost the tax payer and road users dearly, and each year they have been smug in avoiding the issue, but the issue hasn't gone away, its got bigger as we all said it would and with it the cost. Blame the council for the cost, not the suppliers and contractors. With the ever increasing housing being built in West Oxon, it is time that no further developments took place until the long standing problems have been sorted. If the Councillors at all the relevant levels cannot come to a timely solution to this crisis then it should be escalated higher to somebody at national level to come in, kick back side and bang childish posturing heads together and get a programme started in the next 12 months to resolve the problems and start work. Contractors are fit and ready to go, the population want it to happen, it is the officialdom that we are blighted with who are the problem, and their god like posturing. It has to stop. Its childish, pathetic and shows them for what they are, clueless.
As I have written before to make an accurate assessment of what is needed then surely numerous traffic census events need to take place so that peoples movements are accurately targeted. It would be simple to do as much of the traffic is stood for more than long enough. That way an accurate picture is formed. As for light rail taking land away from other users, WHY ?, when there is enough sensible green space which can be purchased to build for the future. Yes its expensive and so is sitting around as the council have done for 50/60 years, their lack of action has cost the tax payer and road users dearly, and each year they have been smug in avoiding the issue, but the issue hasn't gone away, its got bigger as we all said it would and with it the cost. Blame the council for the cost, not the suppliers and contractors. With the ever increasing housing being built in West Oxon, it is time that no further developments took place until the long standing problems have been sorted. If the Councillors at all the relevant levels cannot come to a timely solution to this crisis then it should be escalated higher to somebody at national level to come in, kick back side and bang childish posturing heads together and get a programme started in the next 12 months to resolve the problems and start work. Contractors are fit and ready to go, the population want it to happen, it is the officialdom that we are blighted with who are the problem, and their god like posturing. It has to stop. Its childish, pathetic and shows them for what they are, clueless. the wizard
  • Score: 3

1:01pm Fri 11 Jul 14

C.monster says...

Left work in Oxford at 3:30pm yesterday, crawled all the way down the A40 and got to Witney at 4:30, only to find the traffic queued back to the Cogges turning due to a broken down car on Bridge Street. The last bit at least would have been eased by the Cogges Link Road if the people living in Cogges hadn't been so concerned about more traffic going past their houses. Maybe they should try living in the town centre like me and see what a nightmare that is.
Left work in Oxford at 3:30pm yesterday, crawled all the way down the A40 and got to Witney at 4:30, only to find the traffic queued back to the Cogges turning due to a broken down car on Bridge Street. The last bit at least would have been eased by the Cogges Link Road if the people living in Cogges hadn't been so concerned about more traffic going past their houses. Maybe they should try living in the town centre like me and see what a nightmare that is. C.monster
  • Score: 0

1:25pm Fri 11 Jul 14

King Joke says...

That would just mean traffic crawling through Cogges too. Building roads has long been shown to just generate more traffic, we need to look at the alternatives.
That would just mean traffic crawling through Cogges too. Building roads has long been shown to just generate more traffic, we need to look at the alternatives. King Joke
  • Score: 1

11:16pm Fri 11 Jul 14

dant40 says...

What about the price for the 8min into oxford on the train Every day that won't be cheap so people on not much money would still use the cars.
What about the price for the 8min into oxford on the train Every day that won't be cheap so people on not much money would still use the cars. dant40
  • Score: 0

7:34am Mon 14 Jul 14

King Joke says...

Not at all - a weekly season is £15.60 giving an average journey price of £1.56. FGW don't have the charges for HND car park on their websh|te, but I suspect they are less than you'd pay in central Oxford.
Not at all - a weekly season is £15.60 giving an average journey price of £1.56. FGW don't have the charges for HND car park on their websh|te, but I suspect they are less than you'd pay in central Oxford. King Joke
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