Traffic nightmares should not continue

Traffic nightmares should not continue

Traffic nightmares should not continue

First published in News

JUST as with the ‘fatberg’ roadworks of just a few weeks ago, motorists were yesterday scratching their furrowed brows and asking how closing George Street had such a catastrophic impact on traffic.

There was blame being thrown at the temporary traffic lights at the junction of Hythe Bridge Street and Worcester Street yesterday and no official promise of changes to improve circumstances.

We’ve long known how fragile this city’s road network is, but problems like this – impacting out past the ring road – are unacceptable.

And the Government housing formula referenced above wants to put another 100,000 homes in this county within the next 17 years?

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9:18am Tue 13 May 14

HomerSimpsonDoh says...

and in the future the council want to close George Street to traffic to pedestrians only.
Shows this will not work, but will they listen? NO.
and in the future the council want to close George Street to traffic to pedestrians only. Shows this will not work, but will they listen? NO. HomerSimpsonDoh
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9:22am Tue 13 May 14

train passenger says...

Well Oxford Mail we can have the 100,000 homes built in some other county (so Not In Our Back Yard), but if you honestly believe that will lessen traffic problems around Oxford I think you may be mistaken - people will drive in from further afield because the work is still here.
Well Oxford Mail we can have the 100,000 homes built in some other county (so Not In Our Back Yard), but if you honestly believe that will lessen traffic problems around Oxford I think you may be mistaken - people will drive in from further afield because the work is still here. train passenger
  • Score: 1

11:58am Tue 13 May 14

Major Rhode-Werks says...

I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas???
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas??? Major Rhode-Werks
  • Score: 8

4:41pm Tue 13 May 14

blundelo says...

Major Rhode-Werks wrote:
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas???
As a result of the closure of George Street, the barriers closing the junction at George Street/Worcester Street/Hythe Bridge Street have been removed to allow traffic to move between the two sections of road. It is this junction that is under temporary traffic light control. (The same happened during the removal of the fatberg.)

The main benefit of this, as far as I can see, is to allow those buses exiting Gloucester Green bus station, that would normally go up George Street to Magdalen Street and St Giles, to travel via Worcester Street and Beaumont Street to St Giles without having to go all the way along Park End Street to Frideswide Square and back up Hythe Bridge Street, thereby adding to the congestion that way.

As a daily user of one of those buses, I gain from this decision, but I'm really not convinced that it's the best decision for the largest number of people, unless of course the ultimate aim is to make the car journey so difficult for so many people that everyone opts to use the Park and Ride facilities instead.
[quote][p][bold]Major Rhode-Werks[/bold] wrote: I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas???[/p][/quote]As a result of the closure of George Street, the barriers closing the junction at George Street/Worcester Street/Hythe Bridge Street have been removed to allow traffic to move between the two sections of road. It is this junction that is under temporary traffic light control. (The same happened during the removal of the fatberg.) The main benefit of this, as far as I can see, is to allow those buses exiting Gloucester Green bus station, that would normally go up George Street to Magdalen Street and St Giles, to travel via Worcester Street and Beaumont Street to St Giles without having to go all the way along Park End Street to Frideswide Square and back up Hythe Bridge Street, thereby adding to the congestion that way. As a daily user of one of those buses, I gain from this decision, but I'm really not convinced that it's the best decision for the largest number of people, unless of course the ultimate aim is to make the car journey so difficult for so many people that everyone opts to use the Park and Ride facilities instead. blundelo
  • Score: 3

6:16pm Tue 13 May 14

Major Rhode-Werks says...

blundelo wrote:
Major Rhode-Werks wrote:
I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas???
As a result of the closure of George Street, the barriers closing the junction at George Street/Worcester Street/Hythe Bridge Street have been removed to allow traffic to move between the two sections of road. It is this junction that is under temporary traffic light control. (The same happened during the removal of the fatberg.)

The main benefit of this, as far as I can see, is to allow those buses exiting Gloucester Green bus station, that would normally go up George Street to Magdalen Street and St Giles, to travel via Worcester Street and Beaumont Street to St Giles without having to go all the way along Park End Street to Frideswide Square and back up Hythe Bridge Street, thereby adding to the congestion that way.

As a daily user of one of those buses, I gain from this decision, but I'm really not convinced that it's the best decision for the largest number of people, unless of course the ultimate aim is to make the car journey so difficult for so many people that everyone opts to use the Park and Ride facilities instead.
I can understand that opening for buses but that doesn't explain why traffic is queuing for miles trying to get in to Frideswide Square from Hythe Bridge Street, Hollybush Row and Botley Road. Sheer incompetence by unaccountable council managers who don't give a toss about the consequences of their decisions - sheer lunacy!
[quote][p][bold]blundelo[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Major Rhode-Werks[/bold] wrote: I cannot, for the life of me, understand why closing a road which is already closed to all motorised traffic except taxis, buses and delivery vans, should necessitate temporary traffic lights anywhere. If the road had just been closed with barriers each end then life would carry on as normal for the private motorist and it wouldn't take an hour and half to travel the length of Botley Road. Who, in God's name, comes up with these ideas???[/p][/quote]As a result of the closure of George Street, the barriers closing the junction at George Street/Worcester Street/Hythe Bridge Street have been removed to allow traffic to move between the two sections of road. It is this junction that is under temporary traffic light control. (The same happened during the removal of the fatberg.) The main benefit of this, as far as I can see, is to allow those buses exiting Gloucester Green bus station, that would normally go up George Street to Magdalen Street and St Giles, to travel via Worcester Street and Beaumont Street to St Giles without having to go all the way along Park End Street to Frideswide Square and back up Hythe Bridge Street, thereby adding to the congestion that way. As a daily user of one of those buses, I gain from this decision, but I'm really not convinced that it's the best decision for the largest number of people, unless of course the ultimate aim is to make the car journey so difficult for so many people that everyone opts to use the Park and Ride facilities instead.[/p][/quote]I can understand that opening for buses but that doesn't explain why traffic is queuing for miles trying to get in to Frideswide Square from Hythe Bridge Street, Hollybush Row and Botley Road. Sheer incompetence by unaccountable council managers who don't give a toss about the consequences of their decisions - sheer lunacy! Major Rhode-Werks
  • Score: 2

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