Crash victim's mum cries 'it's Justice for my boy'

Oxford Mail: David Parris David Parris

THE mother of a prison worker who died in a road accident said she cried with happiness when the man who caused his death was found guilty.

Christine Parris, 73, broke down in tears in the court and shouted: “Justice, justice for my boy”.

Her son David Parris, 48, from Bicester, died on the way to Oxford’s John Radcliffe Hospital after the collision on December 4, 2012.

On Thursday, Daniel Fallaw, 36, of Peregrine Way, Bicester, was convicted of causing death by careless driving after a four-day trial at Oxford Crown Court in which his driving was branded “impatient” by a prosecutor.

He denied causing the death of cyclist Mr Parris by careless driving after his silver Ford Escort collided with the cyclist in Bicester.

Prosecutor Iain Wicks said the accident happened at about 6pm as the Bullingdon prison worker was crossing Neunkirchen Way on his bicycle next to the roundabout with the A41.

A jury took just one hour and 55 minutes to reach a unanimous guilty verdict and Fallaw broke down in tears with his head in his hands as the verdict was announced.

After the hearing Mrs Parris said: “When I heard the verdict everything just came off my shoulders. I cried with happiness because it was the right verdict.

“The trial was harrowing hearing all the information that we knew nothing about.

“We heard what the witnesses had to say and they were absolutely fantastic. They were the ones who swung it our way.

“I think it will give us some closure once it has sunk in.

“At the moment I’m still all emotional about it.”

Mr Parris’s 17-year-old daughter Emma, of Chigwell in Essex, added: “I’m glad that justice has been done.”

During the trial Mr Wicks explained that Fallaw was coming off the roundabout when his vehicle struck Mr Parris and his bicycle side on.

The barrister said he suffered a serious brain injury when he hit his head on the car windscreen and died in the ambulance on the way to hospital.

Mr Wicks added: “The prosecution case is that this was a collision that was avoidable.”

During cross examination he told Fallaw that because he was driving too fast and using the roundabout to overtake he didn’t see Mr Parris “until it was too late”.

Giving evidence the defendant maintained there was nothing he could have done to avoid the collision.

He said: “I did all I could. I did my best. If there was anything that I could have done I would have.”

Fallaw will be sentenced at the crown court on February 13.

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6:55pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

It pains me to say it, but I'll bet a large amount of money the sentence will be ridiculously low & this killer will be back in a car in about 4/5 years.

Personally, I'd put him away for 20 yrs & ban him from driving ever again.

Maybe a few more drivers out there would be a bit more careful if they knew that their stupidity would ruin their lives as much as their victims .
It pains me to say it, but I'll bet a large amount of money the sentence will be ridiculously low & this killer will be back in a car in about 4/5 years. Personally, I'd put him away for 20 yrs & ban him from driving ever again. Maybe a few more drivers out there would be a bit more careful if they knew that their stupidity would ruin their lives as much as their victims . Madi50n
  • Score: 56

7:45pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?!
I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?! Laura06
  • Score: -86

8:14pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

Laura06 wrote:
I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?!
This is hilarious!

Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously.

I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not.

HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial.

I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots.

The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives.
[quote][p][bold]Laura06[/bold] wrote: I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?![/p][/quote]This is hilarious! Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously. I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not. HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial. I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots. The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives. Madi50n
  • Score: 54

8:25pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

Like I said keyboard bully!! What have I wrote that's not English? I do know there is a person who has died here but like YOU said he should get 20 years,,, I'm just stating facts paedophiles and murders don't get that. So I take it you was at the trial then?!? It's always one sided through newspapers. I'm not sticking up for the bloke, WE don't know what happen only what the paper have said.
Like I said keyboard bully!! What have I wrote that's not English? I do know there is a person who has died here but like YOU said he should get 20 years,,, I'm just stating facts paedophiles and murders don't get that. So I take it you was at the trial then?!? It's always one sided through newspapers. I'm not sticking up for the bloke, WE don't know what happen only what the paper have said. Laura06
  • Score: -84

8:49pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

OK quick English lesson.

As I said, keyboard bully! What have I written that's not English? I do know there is a person who has died here but YOU said he should get 20 years. I'm just stating facts, paedophiles and murderers don't get that.

So I take it you were at the trial then? It's always one-sided in newspapers. I'm not sticking up for the bloke, WE don't know what happened, only what the papers have said.

See the difference? One of us can write in English, the other one can't.

Trust me, I'd put paedophiles & murderers away for life & this killer for 20 yrs.
Now, please, go back to school & learn how to use English properly? You 're just embarrassing yourself.
OK quick English lesson. As I said, keyboard bully! What have I written that's not English? I do know there is a person who has died here but YOU said he should get 20 years. I'm just stating facts, paedophiles and murderers don't get that. So I take it you were at the trial then? It's always one-sided in newspapers. I'm not sticking up for the bloke, WE don't know what happened, only what the papers have said. See the difference? One of us can write in English, the other one can't. Trust me, I'd put paedophiles & murderers away for life & this killer for 20 yrs. Now, please, go back to school & learn how to use English properly? You 're just embarrassing yourself. Madi50n
  • Score: 51

8:51pm Sat 18 Jan 14

janeybird says...

"What have I wrote that's not English?" You may have used English words but not in the grammatical sense. So I should stop now Laura06 before you make any more mistakes. I can add no more about this case as Madi50N has explained the facts to you and I wholeheartedly agree with his/her sentiments.
"What have I wrote that's not English?" You may have used English words but not in the grammatical sense. So I should stop now Laura06 before you make any more mistakes. I can add no more about this case as Madi50N has explained the facts to you and I wholeheartedly agree with his/her sentiments. janeybird
  • Score: 31

9:01pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

Oh so its not the English as its all fine just not how you would like it written.
Do not bully people over the Internet you don't have a clue about. If you had an accident and killed someone, would you like to read the comments?! When you or me have nothing to do with it? Just think of both families here not just the one..
Oh so its not the English as its all fine just not how you would like it written. Do not bully people over the Internet you don't have a clue about. If you had an accident and killed someone, would you like to read the comments?! When you or me have nothing to do with it? Just think of both families here not just the one.. Laura06
  • Score: -82

9:07pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

No it's not how I would like it written that is how English IS written. It's called grammar, if you'd listened in your English lessons you might have learnt that.

If I'd had an accident & killed someone, I wouldn't be reading the comments section of the local newspaper, I'd have more important things on my mind.

No, I'll think of the family who will never get to see their husband, brother, father or son again. Not the family who get see theirs.

Please, stop embarrassing yourself? Plus, if I laugh at you anymore, I will literally pass out for lack of air.
No it's not how I would like it written that is how English IS written. It's called grammar, if you'd listened in your English lessons you might have learnt that. If I'd had an accident & killed someone, I wouldn't be reading the comments section of the local newspaper, I'd have more important things on my mind. No, I'll think of the family who will never get to see their husband, brother, father or son again. Not the family who get see theirs. Please, stop embarrassing yourself? Plus, if I laugh at you anymore, I will literally pass out for lack of air. Madi50n
  • Score: 50

9:13pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

That is because you are a bully. If grammer bothers you, read something like the telegraph. Not the local paper.
That is because you are a bully. If grammer bothers you, read something like the telegraph. Not the local paper. Laura06
  • Score: -81

9:22pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

The word is "grammar", you can't even write a word that two people have written down before you.

Please, stop, it hurts to laugh this much.
The word is "grammar", you can't even write a word that two people have written down before you. Please, stop, it hurts to laugh this much. Madi50n
  • Score: 48

9:26pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

Bully! My phone is on predictive text and obviously likes it that way.. I'm not re-reading my comments before posting as I'm not that sad!
Bully! My phone is on predictive text and obviously likes it that way.. I'm not re-reading my comments before posting as I'm not that sad! Laura06
  • Score: -79

9:39pm Sat 18 Jan 14

lovebugxxxx says...

I think you will find that everyone of you is a careless driver everytime you get in a car, it maybe changing your stereo, checking your make-up in the mirror, telling your kids off in the back of your car or drinking a bottle of water........ some of you people are heartless. This is not a 'dangerous driving' charge, it does not need much to fall below the standard of a 'careful and competent' driver. All these people that automatically put the blame on the car driver because it was a car against a bike. I was always taught to get off my bike and walk across a road as does the highway code suggest.!
I think you will find that everyone of you is a careless driver everytime you get in a car, it maybe changing your stereo, checking your make-up in the mirror, telling your kids off in the back of your car or drinking a bottle of water........ some of you people are heartless. This is not a 'dangerous driving' charge, it does not need much to fall below the standard of a 'careful and competent' driver. All these people that automatically put the blame on the car driver because it was a car against a bike. I was always taught to get off my bike and walk across a road as does the highway code suggest.! lovebugxxxx
  • Score: -87

9:44pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Laura06 says...

lovebugxxxx wrote:
I think you will find that everyone of you is a careless driver everytime you get in a car, it maybe changing your stereo, checking your make-up in the mirror, telling your kids off in the back of your car or drinking a bottle of water........ some of you people are heartless. This is not a 'dangerous driving' charge, it does not need much to fall below the standard of a 'careful and competent' driver. All these people that automatically put the blame on the car driver because it was a car against a bike. I was always taught to get off my bike and walk across a road as does the highway code suggest.!
Well said.
[quote][p][bold]lovebugxxxx[/bold] wrote: I think you will find that everyone of you is a careless driver everytime you get in a car, it maybe changing your stereo, checking your make-up in the mirror, telling your kids off in the back of your car or drinking a bottle of water........ some of you people are heartless. This is not a 'dangerous driving' charge, it does not need much to fall below the standard of a 'careful and competent' driver. All these people that automatically put the blame on the car driver because it was a car against a bike. I was always taught to get off my bike and walk across a road as does the highway code suggest.![/p][/quote]Well said. Laura06
  • Score: -77

9:46pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

Yes, that jury that automatically put the blame on the driver after sitting through & listening to all the evidence from the prosecution & defence.

The cycling hating brigade really will sink to any level to try and justify getting in car and not driving having to drive carefully. It's ok because everybody does it? He was found guilty because it was his fault.

I really can't argue with anyone who thinks this is a car vs cycle issue, not a driver failing to take his responsibility seriously issue.
Yes, that jury that automatically put the blame on the driver after sitting through & listening to all the evidence from the prosecution & defence. The cycling hating brigade really will sink to any level to try and justify getting in car and not driving having to drive carefully. It's ok because everybody does it? He was found guilty because it was his fault. I really can't argue with anyone who thinks this is a car vs cycle issue, not a driver failing to take his responsibility seriously issue. Madi50n
  • Score: 48

9:58pm Sat 18 Jan 14

lovebugxxxx says...

I think you will find Madi50n that it is not for the defence to prove his innocence as it was tried in a criminal court where as you cannot be seen to put blame on the other party to which you don't have a leg to stand on. Civil court can be battled out on blame unlike criminal court. I think you will find there is alot of background information that the public don't know the papers just print what they want to.print for publicity. This man was simply driving home from work and sadly was involved in this tragic accident. It is extremely different to someone who chooses to drink and drive and do twice the speed limit. Its obviously very sad someone lost their life but unfortunately accidents do occur and both parties and their families have to live with the heartache it causes. I assume you are a perfect driver though madi50n!!
I think you will find Madi50n that it is not for the defence to prove his innocence as it was tried in a criminal court where as you cannot be seen to put blame on the other party to which you don't have a leg to stand on. Civil court can be battled out on blame unlike criminal court. I think you will find there is alot of background information that the public don't know the papers just print what they want to.print for publicity. This man was simply driving home from work and sadly was involved in this tragic accident. It is extremely different to someone who chooses to drink and drive and do twice the speed limit. Its obviously very sad someone lost their life but unfortunately accidents do occur and both parties and their families have to live with the heartache it causes. I assume you are a perfect driver though madi50n!! lovebugxxxx
  • Score: -83

10:18pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

Yes, I am, because I know what my responsibilities are and take them seriously.

Unfortunately, you seem to know you drive carelessly and accept that in others too. It's that kind of attitude which kills people.

Bored now, too many people who think it's ok to drive a tonne or more of metal carelessly at times.
Yes, I am, because I know what my responsibilities are and take them seriously. Unfortunately, you seem to know you drive carelessly and accept that in others too. It's that kind of attitude which kills people. Bored now, too many people who think it's ok to drive a tonne or more of metal carelessly at times. Madi50n
  • Score: 47

10:53pm Sat 18 Jan 14

lovebugxxxx says...

You really need to take a reality check Madi50n...... I hope that one day you are in a the same situation and I am sat on the Jury.!!
There is NO perfect driver in this world as there is NO perfect person so I suggest you take your head out your arse and wake up to reality because one day that may just be you being judged by 12 people who were not there when a split second accident happened.
Know where in that last comment did I say I was a careless driver I was stating what can be classed as a careless driver so before you accuse someone look at the facts!!! But the you are Perfect aren't you!!
You really need to take a reality check Madi50n...... I hope that one day you are in a the same situation and I am sat on the Jury.!! There is NO perfect driver in this world as there is NO perfect person so I suggest you take your head out your arse and wake up to reality because one day that may just be you being judged by 12 people who were not there when a split second accident happened. Know where in that last comment did I say I was a careless driver I was stating what can be classed as a careless driver so before you accuse someone look at the facts!!! But the you are Perfect aren't you!! lovebugxxxx
  • Score: -82

11:25pm Sat 18 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

Oh dear Lovebug! Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear!

Do you really hope I will kill someone? Do you really hope for anther human's death to prove someone's point?

Does someone not agreeing with your opinion really inspire the hope that other people will suffer so you can crow about how right you were?

I'm sorry, but that's a bit sick, isn't it?

I have my head up my arse? Well, that's fine by me, as long as it means I'm not someone who thinks like you.
Oh dear Lovebug! Oh dear, oh dear, oh dear! Do you really hope I will kill someone? Do you really hope for anther human's death to prove someone's point? Does someone not agreeing with your opinion really inspire the hope that other people will suffer so you can crow about how right you were? I'm sorry, but that's a bit sick, isn't it? I have my head up my arse? Well, that's fine by me, as long as it means I'm not someone who thinks like you. Madi50n
  • Score: 45

11:39pm Sat 18 Jan 14

lovebugxxxx says...

I never said you had to kill someone but to be in a situation where as people automatically blame you when there is a whole bigger picture..... you shouldn't go through life with blinkers on!
You believe someone should suffer over something that was a tragic accident then you are a heartless!
I never said you had to kill someone but to be in a situation where as people automatically blame you when there is a whole bigger picture..... you shouldn't go through life with blinkers on! You believe someone should suffer over something that was a tragic accident then you are a heartless! lovebugxxxx
  • Score: -83

11:03am Sun 19 Jan 14

Isawyoucoming says...

lovebugxxxx wrote:
I never said you had to kill someone but to be in a situation where as people automatically blame you when there is a whole bigger picture..... you shouldn't go through life with blinkers on!
You believe someone should suffer over something that was a tragic accident then you are a heartless!
what dont you understand about the verdict.
[quote][p][bold]lovebugxxxx[/bold] wrote: I never said you had to kill someone but to be in a situation where as people automatically blame you when there is a whole bigger picture..... you shouldn't go through life with blinkers on! You believe someone should suffer over something that was a tragic accident then you are a heartless![/p][/quote]what dont you understand about the verdict. Isawyoucoming
  • Score: -63

1:43pm Sun 19 Jan 14

Doctor69 says...

Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer?

And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc?
Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer? And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc? Doctor69
  • Score: -54

3:06pm Sun 19 Jan 14

snert says...

Doctor69 wrote:
Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer?

And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc?
Agreed. Very sad. Although, I do care about grammar, spelling, and punctuation, now isn't really the time to start berating someone for poor use them.

That roundabout is a dangerous roundabout anyway. 5 exits with many car drivers constantly getting in the wrong lanes and people overtaking on the roundabout as well. An innocent man is dead. The driver didn't intend to do it but poor choices has lead to him killing someone. He will pay for it and it is upto the courts to decide.
[quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer? And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc?[/p][/quote]Agreed. Very sad. Although, I do care about grammar, spelling, and punctuation, now isn't really the time to start berating someone for poor use them. That roundabout is a dangerous roundabout anyway. 5 exits with many car drivers constantly getting in the wrong lanes and people overtaking on the roundabout as well. An innocent man is dead. The driver didn't intend to do it but poor choices has lead to him killing someone. He will pay for it and it is upto the courts to decide. snert
  • Score: -98

11:41am Mon 20 Jan 14

Bicester1962 says...

snert wrote:
Doctor69 wrote: Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer? And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc?
Agreed. Very sad. Although, I do care about grammar, spelling, and punctuation, now isn't really the time to start berating someone for poor use them. That roundabout is a dangerous roundabout anyway. 5 exits with many car drivers constantly getting in the wrong lanes and people overtaking on the roundabout as well. An innocent man is dead. The driver didn't intend to do it but poor choices has lead to him killing someone. He will pay for it and it is upto the courts to decide.
This roundabout is not different to any other, if you follow the basic rules you were taught when learning it is not a problem. However if you travel at speeds that are too fast for roundabouts this is what happens.
Yes it leads onto a dual carriage way but anyone who knows this road will know that it is only about 500 yards to the next one. Time and again people travel too fast along there and end up on top of the next roundabout.
Remember speed kills!!
[quote][p][bold]snert[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Doctor69[/bold] wrote: Another sad accident between driver and cyclist. When will car drivers take more care near those on bikes? Have a little patience, so what if your a minute or two longer? And girls, stop arguing. Someone is dead and another man is in prison. Who cares about grammar etc?[/p][/quote]Agreed. Very sad. Although, I do care about grammar, spelling, and punctuation, now isn't really the time to start berating someone for poor use them. That roundabout is a dangerous roundabout anyway. 5 exits with many car drivers constantly getting in the wrong lanes and people overtaking on the roundabout as well. An innocent man is dead. The driver didn't intend to do it but poor choices has lead to him killing someone. He will pay for it and it is upto the courts to decide.[/p][/quote]This roundabout is not different to any other, if you follow the basic rules you were taught when learning it is not a problem. However if you travel at speeds that are too fast for roundabouts this is what happens. Yes it leads onto a dual carriage way but anyone who knows this road will know that it is only about 500 yards to the next one. Time and again people travel too fast along there and end up on top of the next roundabout. Remember speed kills!! Bicester1962
  • Score: 15

3:50pm Mon 20 Jan 14

robbo81 says...

As Snert said it can be dangerous. I use it daily and work not far from where this happened and time and time again people use the right hand lane for the second exit (which they shouldn't as the highway code would state and I'm assuming is what happened as it says the driver used the roundabout for overtaking). It needs something to slow cars down on the approach or aide cyclists/pedestrians crossing it. A lot of joggers use that route at night and I'm surprised none of them have been involved in a collision.
As Snert said it can be dangerous. I use it daily and work not far from where this happened and time and time again people use the right hand lane for the second exit (which they shouldn't as the highway code would state and I'm assuming is what happened as it says the driver used the roundabout for overtaking). It needs something to slow cars down on the approach or aide cyclists/pedestrians crossing it. A lot of joggers use that route at night and I'm surprised none of them have been involved in a collision. robbo81
  • Score: 14

4:20pm Mon 20 Jan 14

lovebugxxxx says...

There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!!
There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!! lovebugxxxx
  • Score: -78

5:00pm Mon 20 Jan 14

robbo81 says...

lovebugxxxx wrote:
There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!!
generally if a roundabout has 5 exits (as this does) and two lanes approaching (which this does) you use the left approach for exits 1 and 2 and you use the right lane for the other exits. You should also have learned that you indicate prior to the exit, not just leave your indicator on all the time, nor ignore indicating at all (as most do at this roundabout) you also don't use the right hand lane to cut across the and get in front of the motorist in front of you. The cyclist wasn't using the foot path, he was crossing the dual carriageway in what he thought was a safe manner.

The highway code clearly states that you should approach a roundabout at a speed safe enough to stop if necessary. You should position yourself and signal clearly in good time to help other road users.

Also the car didn't approach from aylesbury and it shouldn't have been in the right hand lane. by the time it got to that exit it should've positioned itself to the left and been signalling, it should've also been travelling at a speed in which it could've stopped, you never know what is on the other side of a roundabout that size.

The damage is done but I hope the sentence correctly reflects the gravity of this persons actions.
[quote][p][bold]lovebugxxxx[/bold] wrote: There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!![/p][/quote]generally if a roundabout has 5 exits (as this does) and two lanes approaching (which this does) you use the left approach for exits 1 and 2 and you use the right lane for the other exits. You should also have learned that you indicate prior to the exit, not just leave your indicator on all the time, nor ignore indicating at all (as most do at this roundabout) you also don't use the right hand lane to cut across the and get in front of the motorist in front of you. The cyclist wasn't using the foot path, he was crossing the dual carriageway in what he thought was a safe manner. The highway code clearly states that you should approach a roundabout at a speed safe enough to stop if necessary. You should position yourself and signal clearly in good time to help other road users. Also the car didn't approach from aylesbury and it shouldn't have been in the right hand lane. by the time it got to that exit it should've positioned itself to the left and been signalling, it should've also been travelling at a speed in which it could've stopped, you never know what is on the other side of a roundabout that size. The damage is done but I hope the sentence correctly reflects the gravity of this persons actions. robbo81
  • Score: 14

8:38am Tue 21 Jan 14

Bicester1962 says...

robbo81 wrote:
lovebugxxxx wrote: There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!!
generally if a roundabout has 5 exits (as this does) and two lanes approaching (which this does) you use the left approach for exits 1 and 2 and you use the right lane for the other exits. You should also have learned that you indicate prior to the exit, not just leave your indicator on all the time, nor ignore indicating at all (as most do at this roundabout) you also don't use the right hand lane to cut across the and get in front of the motorist in front of you. The cyclist wasn't using the foot path, he was crossing the dual carriageway in what he thought was a safe manner. The highway code clearly states that you should approach a roundabout at a speed safe enough to stop if necessary. You should position yourself and signal clearly in good time to help other road users. Also the car didn't approach from aylesbury and it shouldn't have been in the right hand lane. by the time it got to that exit it should've positioned itself to the left and been signalling, it should've also been travelling at a speed in which it could've stopped, you never know what is on the other side of a roundabout that size. The damage is done but I hope the sentence correctly reflects the gravity of this persons actions.
Also there are proper crossing places here as designated by the dropped kerbs both sides and in the central reservation.
[quote][p][bold]robbo81[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]lovebugxxxx[/bold] wrote: There are no road markings on the roundabout and it is not against the law to use the right hand lane to exit onto that dual carriageway. However it is an offence to ride your bike on a public footpath which is what the cyclist was doing. There is actually a designated shared cycle path around the other side of the roundabout perhaps people should take note of that.a car coming from Aylesbury direction onto the dual carriageway would have been using the right hand lane of the roundabout so the cyclist should have been more aware of the traffic. It is a ridiculous place to cross when there a designated crossing avaiable.!![/p][/quote]generally if a roundabout has 5 exits (as this does) and two lanes approaching (which this does) you use the left approach for exits 1 and 2 and you use the right lane for the other exits. You should also have learned that you indicate prior to the exit, not just leave your indicator on all the time, nor ignore indicating at all (as most do at this roundabout) you also don't use the right hand lane to cut across the and get in front of the motorist in front of you. The cyclist wasn't using the foot path, he was crossing the dual carriageway in what he thought was a safe manner. The highway code clearly states that you should approach a roundabout at a speed safe enough to stop if necessary. You should position yourself and signal clearly in good time to help other road users. Also the car didn't approach from aylesbury and it shouldn't have been in the right hand lane. by the time it got to that exit it should've positioned itself to the left and been signalling, it should've also been travelling at a speed in which it could've stopped, you never know what is on the other side of a roundabout that size. The damage is done but I hope the sentence correctly reflects the gravity of this persons actions.[/p][/quote]Also there are proper crossing places here as designated by the dropped kerbs both sides and in the central reservation. Bicester1962
  • Score: 15

3:03pm Wed 22 Jan 14

locodogz says...

Madi50n wrote:
Laura06 wrote:
I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?!
This is hilarious!

Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously.

I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not.

HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial.

I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots.

The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives.
Not as hilarious as linguistic pedants who then proceed to write "person person" and "long long, long"

Hey ho - live by sword and all that....
[quote][p][bold]Madi50n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laura06[/bold] wrote: I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?![/p][/quote]This is hilarious! Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously. I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not. HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial. I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots. The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives.[/p][/quote]Not as hilarious as linguistic pedants who then proceed to write "person person" and "long long, long" Hey ho - live by sword and all that.... locodogz
  • Score: -83

3:08pm Wed 22 Jan 14

locodogz says...

Madi50n wrote:
No it's not how I would like it written that is how English IS written. It's called grammar, if you'd listened in your English lessons you might have learnt that.

If I'd had an accident & killed someone, I wouldn't be reading the comments section of the local newspaper, I'd have more important things on my mind.

No, I'll think of the family who will never get to see their husband, brother, father or son again. Not the family who get see theirs.

Please, stop embarrassing yourself? Plus, if I laugh at you anymore, I will literally pass out for lack of air.
"get see" tsk tsk......
[quote][p][bold]Madi50n[/bold] wrote: No it's not how I would like it written that is how English IS written. It's called grammar, if you'd listened in your English lessons you might have learnt that. If I'd had an accident & killed someone, I wouldn't be reading the comments section of the local newspaper, I'd have more important things on my mind. No, I'll think of the family who will never get to see their husband, brother, father or son again. Not the family who get see theirs. Please, stop embarrassing yourself? Plus, if I laugh at you anymore, I will literally pass out for lack of air.[/p][/quote]"get see" tsk tsk...... locodogz
  • Score: -81

6:24pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

locodogz wrote:
Madi50n wrote:
Laura06 wrote:
I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?!
This is hilarious!

Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously.

I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not.

HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial.

I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots.

The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives.
Not as hilarious as linguistic pedants who then proceed to write "person person" and "long long, long"

Hey ho - live by sword and all that....
Doh!
[quote][p][bold]locodogz[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Madi50n[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Laura06[/bold] wrote: I don't no him accidents do happen, he may have been speeding (which most people break the speed limit) but by all accounts he was going on to a dual carriage way? Which u speed up not slow down.. I'm sure he didn't go out with the intent to kill someone that day! People like you are keyboard bullies. You only know what the newspaper says. He also has a family and has to live with this for the rest of his life. Paedophiles or murders who intent on doing it don't even get 20 years what planet are you on?![/p][/quote]This is hilarious! Listen Laura06, learn how to write in English, maybe then people will take you seriously. I couldn't care if he gave all his money to charity, was kind to fluffy bunnies, helped old ladies across the street & volunteered at the local food bank. I don't care if he has to live with it for the rest of his life. He has a life to live it with. I don't care if he did or didn't have the "intent" or not. HE KILLED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING, get that into your head; a person person is dead through his carelessness. He didn't even have the decency to admit it was his fault, he put the family of the man he killed through the hell of a trial. I hope he gets banged up for a long long, long, long time and rots. The sad thing is, he won't he'll get a couple of years at most then come out and carry on as if nothing happened, while the poor family of the man he killed have to go on with a massive hole in their lives.[/p][/quote]Not as hilarious as linguistic pedants who then proceed to write "person person" and "long long, long" Hey ho - live by sword and all that....[/p][/quote]Doh! Madi50n
  • Score: 43

10:39pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Madi50n says...

Love it! How did you know I speak 3 languages?

I'm more of an English grammar & spelling pedant to be honest. I don't speak the other languages well enough.
Love it! How did you know I speak 3 languages? I'm more of an English grammar & spelling pedant to be honest. I don't speak the other languages well enough. Madi50n
  • Score: 43

10:42pm Wed 22 Jan 14

Sophie_girl says...

When you have all finished your arguing, please bear this in mind .. Dave is dead. I worked with Dave as did hundreds of other people and we miss him dearly .. but not as much as his family do. I know they are in pieces about this. They dont want to look at all the stuff you have written here on his page and see the word 'hilarious'! It is anything but hilarious.
So please people, show a bit of respect for his family and friends who miss him desperately.
When you have all finished your arguing, please bear this in mind .. Dave is dead. I worked with Dave as did hundreds of other people and we miss him dearly .. but not as much as his family do. I know they are in pieces about this. They dont want to look at all the stuff you have written here on his page and see the word 'hilarious'! It is anything but hilarious. So please people, show a bit of respect for his family and friends who miss him desperately. Sophie_girl
  • Score: 55

5:02pm Fri 24 Jan 14

locodogz says...

Sophie_girl wrote:
When you have all finished your arguing, please bear this in mind .. Dave is dead. I worked with Dave as did hundreds of other people and we miss him dearly .. but not as much as his family do. I know they are in pieces about this. They dont want to look at all the stuff you have written here on his page and see the word 'hilarious'! It is anything but hilarious.
So please people, show a bit of respect for his family and friends who miss him desperately.
Quite right - please accept my apologies for a crass and ill considered post - and my condolences to Dave's friends and families.
[quote][p][bold]Sophie_girl[/bold] wrote: When you have all finished your arguing, please bear this in mind .. Dave is dead. I worked with Dave as did hundreds of other people and we miss him dearly .. but not as much as his family do. I know they are in pieces about this. They dont want to look at all the stuff you have written here on his page and see the word 'hilarious'! It is anything but hilarious. So please people, show a bit of respect for his family and friends who miss him desperately.[/p][/quote]Quite right - please accept my apologies for a crass and ill considered post - and my condolences to Dave's friends and families. locodogz
  • Score: -77

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