Speed device helps drivers keep to 30

Oxford Mail: Speed device helps drivers keep to 30 Speed device helps drivers keep to 30

MOTORISTS are being helped to keep to the speed limit on a busy Bicester road.

Middleton Stoney Road had a 50mph limit until a temporary limit of 30mph came into force in 2010, as work started on Kingsmere estate. The 30mph limit was later made permanent.

But because there is now no speed limit sign as people enter from Oxford Road, some drivers think it has gone back to 50mph.

Councillor Les Sibley had temporary ‘watch your speed’ signs installed in August, but has now used a community fund given to councillors for local projects to put up a speed activated warning sign.

The sign will now flash at speeding drivers reminding them of the 30mph limit.

He said: “It acts as a reminder. It will help to slow down cars and improve safety. There was no other way of alerting people this is a 30mph road.”

Police figures showed 409 motorists were fined in the road from July 2012 to June 2013, compared with 22 in 2010/11.

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9:48pm Tue 31 Dec 13

Myron Blatz says...

Let's face it, only traffic jams or speed cameras which work seem to reduce speed on a regular basis. It should be like wot they have in America - big on-the-spot fines, or no-option JAIL! That, or just confiscate the car, and crush it!
Let's face it, only traffic jams or speed cameras which work seem to reduce speed on a regular basis. It should be like wot they have in America - big on-the-spot fines, or no-option JAIL! That, or just confiscate the car, and crush it! Myron Blatz

4:24pm Wed 1 Jan 14

EMBOX2 says...

Given that there are NO signs on this stretch of road, and everyone is used to it being 50, then how TVP can prosecute is a grey area, I would have though, and shame on them for focusing on this easy money-making location.

It does prove that speed enforcement is just about money.
Given that there are NO signs on this stretch of road, and everyone is used to it being 50, then how TVP can prosecute is a grey area, I would have though, and shame on them for focusing on this easy money-making location. It does prove that speed enforcement is just about money. EMBOX2

5:35pm Wed 1 Jan 14

richsawsedges says...

If the speed limit is 30mph then there does not need to be a periodic reminder. There are a number of simple rules related to speed limits, if there are road lights and no sign of a speed limit sign then it is a 30mph zone, if there are lights and the speed limit is higher, then there have to be periodoc reminders. If there are no street lights and no reminders of speed then it is a 60mph zone.

Pretty basic philosophy, if there are street lights and you can't see a speed limit reminder sign then stick to 30, you'll rarely get a ticket for being under the limit.
If the speed limit is 30mph then there does not need to be a periodic reminder. There are a number of simple rules related to speed limits, if there are road lights and no sign of a speed limit sign then it is a 30mph zone, if there are lights and the speed limit is higher, then there have to be periodoc reminders. If there are no street lights and no reminders of speed then it is a 60mph zone. Pretty basic philosophy, if there are street lights and you can't see a speed limit reminder sign then stick to 30, you'll rarely get a ticket for being under the limit. richsawsedges

9:24am Thu 2 Jan 14

Vernon Spools says...

It's is not automatically 60mph if there are mo lights or signs. Suggest getting a copy of the Highway Code.
It's is not automatically 60mph if there are mo lights or signs. Suggest getting a copy of the Highway Code. Vernon Spools

12:20pm Thu 2 Jan 14

King Joke says...

I'm afraid Rich is right Vernon - a road with no street lights is 60 mph unless otherwise stated by repeater roundels; a road with street lights is 30 mph unless otherwise stated by repeater roundels.
I'm afraid Rich is right Vernon - a road with no street lights is 60 mph unless otherwise stated by repeater roundels; a road with street lights is 30 mph unless otherwise stated by repeater roundels. King Joke

12:36pm Thu 2 Jan 14

Vernon Spools says...

Depends what you are driving. If we are talking national speeds limits I would read the highway code first. The words 'usually applies' is also used. You would fail you test for saying it's 60mph!
Depends what you are driving. If we are talking national speeds limits I would read the highway code first. The words 'usually applies' is also used. You would fail you test for saying it's 60mph! Vernon Spools

12:40pm Thu 2 Jan 14

King Joke says...

Yes it does depend on what you're driving - my above statement refers to a vehicle under 7.5t not towing a trailer.

What should I say in a driving test though?
Yes it does depend on what you're driving - my above statement refers to a vehicle under 7.5t not towing a trailer. What should I say in a driving test though? King Joke

6:12pm Thu 2 Jan 14

EMBOX2 says...

"But because there is now no speed limit sign as people enter from Oxford Road.."

So if there is no sign, then the last speed limit sign on the road from which you have come is the limit you obey.

You cannot just guess the speed limit, any variation in it MUST be signed.
"But because there is now no speed limit sign as people enter from Oxford Road.." So if there is no sign, then the last speed limit sign on the road from which you have come is the limit you obey. You cannot just guess the speed limit, any variation in it MUST be signed. EMBOX2

6:12pm Thu 2 Jan 14

oxchris says...

Just put up some speed limit signs, sigh. I don't see how keeping it secret or applying a complicated formula that requires people to reach for the Highway Code helps anybody.
Just put up some speed limit signs, sigh. I don't see how keeping it secret or applying a complicated formula that requires people to reach for the Highway Code helps anybody. oxchris

9:24am Fri 3 Jan 14

King Joke says...

EMBOX2 wrote:
"But because there is now no speed limit sign as people enter from Oxford Road.." So if there is no sign, then the last speed limit sign on the road from which you have come is the limit you obey. You cannot just guess the speed limit, any variation in it MUST be signed.
Wrong! Any road with street lights has a limit of 30 mph unless otherwise indicated. THis is one of the fundamental facts taught in driving lessons and there is no excuse for not knowing it.
[quote][p][bold]EMBOX2[/bold] wrote: "But because there is now no speed limit sign as people enter from Oxford Road.." So if there is no sign, then the last speed limit sign on the road from which you have come is the limit you obey. You cannot just guess the speed limit, any variation in it MUST be signed.[/p][/quote]Wrong! Any road with street lights has a limit of 30 mph unless otherwise indicated. THis is one of the fundamental facts taught in driving lessons and there is no excuse for not knowing it. King Joke

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