'I will break law to tackle my MS'

Oxford Mail: Michelle X. Michelle X.

A MULTIPLE sclerosis sufferer has vowed to buy cannabis from street dealers after police took action against her for growing it at home.

Michelle X, who changed her surname after her husband left her, says smoking cannabis allows her to cope with the condition and live an independent life.

Without it, she says she is wheelchair-bound and suffers with ongoing pains.

Today, campaigners have backed her plight – saying that the law needs to be changed.

Police found 28 cannabis plants and nearly 60g of the drug when they raided her Abingdon home in March.

They also took away £1,000 worth of cannabis growing equipment. Now the 46-year-old has accepted a caution – but said she would have to use her disability benefits to hand her money over to drug dealers.

“The drug works for me, and all my neurologists agree that it works, but it doesn’t work for everyone.

“If I don’t take cannabis, I am stuck in a wheelchair and I need people to bathe me and dress me, but with cannabis I can do my own shopping, walk my dog and live independently on a much lower care package.”

Ms X, of Lammas Close, had been producing cannabis herself for around 10 years. The grandmother, who was diagnosed with MS in 1988, said: “I started buying cannabis illegally myself and tried it. The benefits were unbelievable.

“Now I am left with no alternative than to buy the drug illegally. I am forced to use my disability benefits to pay for this.”

Lady Neidpath, founder of the Oxfordshire-based drugs charity The Beckley Foundation, said: “This is a very clear example of a human cost, where a woman is being criminalised for treating her condition.”

In many parts of the country, those who suffer from MS are prescribed Sativex, a patented mouthspray which contains one of the main components of cannabis. But the spray is not available in this county.

Stephen Trousse, a spokesman for the MS Trust, said: “We believe that people with MS should have access to safe, effective and licensed treatments for their symptoms on the NHS, rather than feeling they have to find solutions outside of the law.”

John Chipperfield, chairman of the Oxford and district branch of the Multiple Sclerosis Society, whose wife Marilyn suffers from MS, said: “Obviously what Ms X is doing is illegal and we would never advise people to grow their own cannabis.

“Cannabis may be harmful and could do more harm than good. I would say that people have to go through the proper channels.”

But North Oxford resident Chris Sivewright, who has a number of relatives with MS and fundraises for the condition, said: “People with MS will do anything within reason they can to reduce the pain and, unfortunately, Ms X has fallen foul of the law.”

Crime Prevention Minister Norman Baker said: “I sympathise with the woman in question, but the Government has no plans to legalise cannabis.” Thames Valley Police declined to comment on Ms X’s case.

MULTIPLE SCLEROSIS FACTFILE

  • Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a disease affecting nerves in the brain and spinal cord, causing problems with muscle movement, balance and vision
  •  Each nerve fibre in the brain and spinal cord is surrounded by a layer of protein called myelin, which protects the nerve and helps electrical signals from the brain travel to the rest of the body. In MS, the myelin becomes damaged.
  • This disrupts the transfer of these nerve signals, causing a wide range of potential symptoms including fatigue, loss of vision and loss of coordination.
  • There is currently no cure for MS.

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9:30am Thu 17 Oct 13

Kidlington Dave says...

On the one hand the police have to follow the letter of the law, but good to know they don't have enough serious stuff to deal with than harass this poor woman who is harming absolutely no-one.
On the one hand the police have to follow the letter of the law, but good to know they don't have enough serious stuff to deal with than harass this poor woman who is harming absolutely no-one. Kidlington Dave

1:23pm Thu 17 Oct 13

max3 says...

The plant cannabis is so underestimated and misunderstood. CBD is a major part of cannabis and it cures so many diseases and helps so many symptoms. THC is the other major part of cannabis and it too has amazing beneficial properties.

The story doesn't include the information about how i tried to follow the legal route and waited years for Sativex to be passed by the N.I.C.E only to be refused the drug by the PCT twice when i fit the criteria ? The truth is hidden.

Dont trust me, look for yourself... the proof is there.

I am Michelle anne X
The plant cannabis is so underestimated and misunderstood. CBD is a major part of cannabis and it cures so many diseases and helps so many symptoms. THC is the other major part of cannabis and it too has amazing beneficial properties. The story doesn't include the information about how i tried to follow the legal route and waited years for Sativex to be passed by the N.I.C.E only to be refused the drug by the PCT twice when i fit the criteria ? The truth is hidden. Dont trust me, look for yourself... the proof is there. I am Michelle anne X max3

1:31pm Thu 17 Oct 13

max3 says...

The other major part of the story was also missed...

Magistrates Court and then Crown Court dates... I was ready to fight this all the way.

I had my Crown Court date Monday 14th Crown Court Oxford Court 1 10am...
Then i receive a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution...

Why was i treated differently if it is so illegal even for medical use?

The LAW is not doing its job? or the LAW should be changed?
The other major part of the story was also missed... Magistrates Court and then Crown Court dates... I was ready to fight this all the way. I had my Crown Court date Monday 14th Crown Court Oxford Court 1 10am... Then i receive a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution... Why was i treated differently if it is so illegal even for medical use? The LAW is not doing its job? or the LAW should be changed? max3

1:34pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Owen Richards says...

In Britain, CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform is working to end the stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis and cannabis users. The £500 million we spend every year on cannabis law enforcement is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents.

The denial of what is a very safe and effective medicine for this woman is disgraceful. More than 50% of US citizens and every other country in Europe except France and Ireland permits medicinal cannabis.

Our present policy is cruel and irresponsible. Searching questions also need to be asked about the licence granted to GW Pharmaceuticals to grow cannabis to turn into the Sativex medicine. In every other context the government says 'there is no medicinal value in cannabis'. This smacks of corruption.

Illegal cannabis farms destroy rented property, steal electricity, exploit human trafficked gardeners and blight communities with street dealing. There has been a massive increase in the last few years. 7,660 were discovered in 2010/11 and there is no sign of any slowing down. Cannabis prices have escalated to nearly £15 per gram.

CLEAR has proposed a properly regulated system of production and supply which would minimise all these problems and create thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over its content and who it is sold to.

Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an unlawful monopoly on cannabis so they export Sativex all over the world at a vastly inflated price when anyone can grow the equivalent at home for pennies.

A legally regulated system would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, all prescription and OTC medicines. More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you. It acts as a supplement to the endocannabinoid system and helps to protect against autoimmune conditions such as diabetes and cancer. It is also neuroprotective and helpful in the treatment of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's.

CLEAR published independent, expert research in 2011 which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum.
In Britain, CLEAR Cannabis Law Reform is working to end the stupid and unwinnable war against cannabis and cannabis users. The £500 million we spend every year on cannabis law enforcement is causing far more harm to our communities than it prevents. The denial of what is a very safe and effective medicine for this woman is disgraceful. More than 50% of US citizens and every other country in Europe except France and Ireland permits medicinal cannabis. Our present policy is cruel and irresponsible. Searching questions also need to be asked about the licence granted to GW Pharmaceuticals to grow cannabis to turn into the Sativex medicine. In every other context the government says 'there is no medicinal value in cannabis'. This smacks of corruption. Illegal cannabis farms destroy rented property, steal electricity, exploit human trafficked gardeners and blight communities with street dealing. There has been a massive increase in the last few years. 7,660 were discovered in 2010/11 and there is no sign of any slowing down. Cannabis prices have escalated to nearly £15 per gram. CLEAR has proposed a properly regulated system of production and supply which would minimise all these problems and create thousands of new jobs. We'd have no more dealers on the streets. Cannabis would be available to adults only through licensed outlets and we'd have some control over its content and who it is sold to. Doctors would be able to prescribe one of the most effective medicines that has no serious side effects at all. At the moment the government has given GW Pharmaceuticals an unlawful monopoly on cannabis so they export Sativex all over the world at a vastly inflated price when anyone can grow the equivalent at home for pennies. A legally regulated system would solve nearly all the problems around cannabis. Science proves how much safer it is than tobacco, alcohol, all prescription and OTC medicines. More than that, experts now recognise that for most adults, in moderation, cannabis is actually good for you. It acts as a supplement to the endocannabinoid system and helps to protect against autoimmune conditions such as diabetes and cancer. It is also neuroprotective and helpful in the treatment of neurodegenerative conditions such as Alzheimer's and Parkinson's. CLEAR published independent, expert research in 2011 which shows that a tax and regulate policy on cannabis would produce a net gain to the UK economy of up to £9.3 billion per annum. Owen Richards

1:37pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Owen Richards says...

@MIchelle Anne, Please consider joining the CLEAR medicinal users panel: http://www.clear-uk.
org/legal-medicinal-
cannabis-in-britain-
achieved/
@MIchelle Anne, Please consider joining the CLEAR medicinal users panel: http://www.clear-uk. org/legal-medicinal- cannabis-in-britain- achieved/ Owen Richards

1:59pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Kanny989 says...

Oh this makes me angry
Cannabis is a huge help for many illnesses and I cant believe this police force didnt have better things to do?
What harm was this woman doing to anyone?
DISGUSTED
Oh this makes me angry Cannabis is a huge help for many illnesses and I cant believe this police force didnt have better things to do? What harm was this woman doing to anyone? DISGUSTED Kanny989

2:02pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Kanny989 says...

Oh and a HUGE correction needs to be made. Sativex is available in this country, its just very, very difficult to get a prescription for.
Its another of those drugs that is subject to that postcode lottery!
Oh and a HUGE correction needs to be made. Sativex is available in this country, its just very, very difficult to get a prescription for. Its another of those drugs that is subject to that postcode lottery! Kanny989

2:02pm Thu 17 Oct 13

anniepaint says...

Disgraceful treatment of a woman who has found a treatment that works to manage her medical condition. What a waste of taxpayers money. This medicine should be available on prescription to those who need it. Doctors can prescribe morphine and cocaine where appropriate why not cannabis? Turning desperate people into criminals and forcing them to deal with real criminal gangs is madness. If Cannabis was legalised and regulated it would put criminals out of business overnight, save the taxpayer millions of pounds and allow the police to get on with their real job perhaps.
Disgraceful treatment of a woman who has found a treatment that works to manage her medical condition. What a waste of taxpayers money. This medicine should be available on prescription to those who need it. Doctors can prescribe morphine and cocaine where appropriate why not cannabis? Turning desperate people into criminals and forcing them to deal with real criminal gangs is madness. If Cannabis was legalised and regulated it would put criminals out of business overnight, save the taxpayer millions of pounds and allow the police to get on with their real job perhaps. anniepaint

2:16pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Pawel_Si says...

What harm has she done?

She didn't buy from dealers so they were losing money.

It is obvious who Home Office is protecting - criminals and GW Pharma.
What harm has she done? She didn't buy from dealers so they were losing money. It is obvious who Home Office is protecting - criminals and GW Pharma. Pawel_Si

2:40pm Thu 17 Oct 13

sparro says...

Kanny989 says...

Oh and a HUGE correction needs to be made. Sativex is available in this country, its just very, very difficult to get a prescription for.
Its another of those drugs that is subject to that postcode lottery!

If you read the article correctly. it says COUNTY & not country as you say. My wife has MS & uses Sativex,on prescription,we live in Devon
I still think the Police were stupid & no sense or thought.
Kanny989 says... Oh and a HUGE correction needs to be made. Sativex is available in this country, its just very, very difficult to get a prescription for. Its another of those drugs that is subject to that postcode lottery! If you read the article correctly. it says COUNTY & not country as you say. My wife has MS & uses Sativex,on prescription,we live in Devon I still think the Police were stupid & no sense or thought. sparro

3:06pm Thu 17 Oct 13

handytrim says...

“Cannabis may be harmful and could do more harm than good. I would say that people have to go through the proper channels.”

What nonsense!

To say that it is harmless would be a lie. But compared to many other much more dangerous substances the actual truth is cannabis is less harmful than caffeine. There are more hospital admittances each year due to reactions to peanuts than because of issues with cannabis. Now compare that to the fully legal drug alcohol which KILLS thousands each year. Cannabis has yet to kill a single person in its many thousands of years of use.

The only other way cannabis could be considered dangerous is because of the very fact that it is prohibited. Which means it is sold through a criminally controlled black market which is unregulated in any way. Buying weed from the streets is gambling with your health and risking a criminal conviction.....for a nontoxic and proven medicine that other more civilised countries throughout the world have allowed to be prescribed where needed.

You can try and obtain the only legally sanctioned cannabis medicine available in this country, Sativex, but it is criminally over-priced so is actually vary rarely prescribed. And yet our home office continues the lie that cannabis has no medicinal value. So why allow the manufacture and sale of Sativex?

It is a national disgrace that we have allowed this hypocritical, illogical and unscientific state of affairs to continue! Our politicians are corrupted by the media, who make a living off sensationalist nonsense about drugs, and the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies, who stand to loose a large amount of revenue to far safer alternatives.

It is time we addressed this issue with science, logic and a pinch empathy rather than the prejudiced, hypocritical sensationalism our cowardly and corrupt government currently favour.
“Cannabis may be harmful and could do more harm than good. I would say that people have to go through the proper channels.” What nonsense! To say that it is harmless would be a lie. But compared to many other much more dangerous substances the actual truth is cannabis is less harmful than caffeine. There are more hospital admittances each year due to reactions to peanuts than because of issues with cannabis. Now compare that to the fully legal drug alcohol which KILLS thousands each year. Cannabis has yet to kill a single person in its many thousands of years of use. The only other way cannabis could be considered dangerous is because of the very fact that it is prohibited. Which means it is sold through a criminally controlled black market which is unregulated in any way. Buying weed from the streets is gambling with your health and risking a criminal conviction.....for a nontoxic and proven medicine that other more civilised countries throughout the world have allowed to be prescribed where needed. You can try and obtain the only legally sanctioned cannabis medicine available in this country, Sativex, but it is criminally over-priced so is actually vary rarely prescribed. And yet our home office continues the lie that cannabis has no medicinal value. So why allow the manufacture and sale of Sativex? It is a national disgrace that we have allowed this hypocritical, illogical and unscientific state of affairs to continue! Our politicians are corrupted by the media, who make a living off sensationalist nonsense about drugs, and the alcohol and pharmaceutical companies, who stand to loose a large amount of revenue to far safer alternatives. It is time we addressed this issue with science, logic and a pinch empathy rather than the prejudiced, hypocritical sensationalism our cowardly and corrupt government currently favour. handytrim

3:30pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Tom Speed says...

Misuse of Drugs Act is a Slave law, there is no actual authority behind it.

Cannabis use is a 'vice' at most, not a 'crime'.

No one has any such authority in making intrinsically innocent acts 'crimes' , no Jurors have any right in finding anyone 'guilty', where no guilt ever did or can exist. Guilt is an intrinsic quality of actions, it can't be 'created' nor 'changed', nor indeed 'modified' in any way.

Government and the Courts have fraudulently changed long standing principles of English law to suit their needs. Judges regularly use their bogus legal maxim "Judges decide questions on law, and jurors only the facts", to prevent Juries doing their real duty, Judging 'of the Justice' of the law' itself.

One of many ways in which our true Trial by 'Jury' has been usurped and replaced with illegitimate Trials by 'Government':

Proof: http://www.barefoots
world.net/trial01.ht
ml

GW Pharmaceuticals who make the aforementioned 'Sativex', have filed Patents for using Cannabis, or Cannabinoids, for pretty much every major disease that exists.

They confirm in their Patents (if people bother their arse to read them, I HAVE! ALL OF THEM!!! :O) ), how safe and efficacious Cannabinoids are.

Example: http://www.faqs.org/
patents/app/20100292
345

"5. Use as claimed in any of claims 1 to 4, wherein the diseases or conditions to be treated are taken from the group: pain (including but not limited to acute pain; chronic pain; neuropathic pain and cancer pain), neurodegenerative disease (including but not limited to Alzheimer's disease; Parkinson's disease; amyotrophic lateral sclerosis; Huntington's disease; multiple sclerosis; frontotemporal dementia; prion disease; Lewy body dementia; progressive supranuclear palsy; vascular dementia; normal pressure hydrocephalus; traumatic spinal cord injury; HIV dementia; alcohol induced neurotoxicity; Down's syndrome; epilepsy or any other related neurological or psychiatric neurodegenerative disease), ischemic disease (including but not limited to stroke; cardiac ischemia; coronary artery disease; thromboembolism; myocardial infarction or any other ischemic related disease), brain injury or damage (including but not limited to traumatic brain injury is taken from the group: diffuse axonal injury; concussion; contusion; whiplash or any other traumatic head or brain injury), acquired brain injury (including but not limited to stroke; anoxic brain injury; hypoxic brain injury or any other acquired brain injury), age related inflammatory or autoimmune disease, cachexia (including related conditions such as AIDS wasting disease, weight loss associated with cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or infectious diseases such as tuberculosis), nausea and vomiting, glaucoma, movement disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, allergy, psoriasis, Crohn's disease, systemic lupus erythematosus, diabetes, cancer, osteoporosis, renal ischemia and nephritis."


WOW ?

Gov. will make a HUGE deal of the administration method. A report out today quotes one Doctor still claiming smoking Cannabis causes lung cancer.

Dr. Tashkin did a 30 year study on this, and no it does NOT cause lung cancer. In fact, Dr. Tashkin reports there is a 'slight protective effect' from smoked Cannabis.

GW Pharmaceuticals Cannabis Patents! http://www.faqs.org/
patents/assignee/gw-
pharma-limited/


And this Patent.... well, Dr. William Courtney says that this Patent is reason enough that ANYONE should be using Cannabis daily.

The U.S. Government, by way of the Dept. of Health, holds a Patent for Cannabinoids as a potent neuroprotectant: http://patft.uspto.g
ov/netacgi/nph-Parse
r?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=H
ITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=%
2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fs
rchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l
=50&s1=6630507.PN.&O
S=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6
630507

"Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants

Abstract

Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia"

Altohugh, this obviously conflicts with GW's PAtents. :)

There's a bloody goldrush for Cannabis Patents, whilst the sick individual like this lady, and myself, are criminalized for personal use!

No one would openly support and take part in a Government, if the purpose proposed, was to criminalize people for their choice of medicine, because, no such authority exists! :)

(Chester vs. Afshar), 2005, House of Lords, "In modern law medical paternalism no longer rules"

My body, my choice.... move along now!
Misuse of Drugs Act is a Slave law, there is no actual authority behind it. Cannabis use is a 'vice' at most, not a 'crime'. No one has any such authority in making intrinsically innocent acts 'crimes' , no Jurors have any right in finding anyone 'guilty', where no guilt ever did or can exist. Guilt is an intrinsic quality of actions, it can't be 'created' nor 'changed', nor indeed 'modified' in any way. Government and the Courts have fraudulently changed long standing principles of English law to suit their needs. Judges regularly use their bogus legal maxim "Judges decide questions on law, and jurors only the facts", to prevent Juries doing their real duty, Judging 'of the Justice' of the law' itself. One of many ways in which our true Trial by 'Jury' has been usurped and replaced with illegitimate Trials by 'Government': Proof: http://www.barefoots world.net/trial01.ht ml GW Pharmaceuticals who make the aforementioned 'Sativex', have filed Patents for using Cannabis, or Cannabinoids, for pretty much every major disease that exists. They confirm in their Patents (if people bother their arse to read them, I HAVE! ALL OF THEM!!! :O) ), how safe and efficacious Cannabinoids are. Example: http://www.faqs.org/ patents/app/20100292 345 "5. Use as claimed in any of claims 1 to 4, wherein the diseases or conditions to be treated are taken from the group: pain (including but not limited to acute pain; chronic pain; neuropathic pain and cancer pain), neurodegenerative disease (including but not limited to Alzheimer's disease; Parkinson's disease; amyotrophic lateral sclerosis; Huntington's disease; multiple sclerosis; frontotemporal dementia; prion disease; Lewy body dementia; progressive supranuclear palsy; vascular dementia; normal pressure hydrocephalus; traumatic spinal cord injury; HIV dementia; alcohol induced neurotoxicity; Down's syndrome; epilepsy or any other related neurological or psychiatric neurodegenerative disease), ischemic disease (including but not limited to stroke; cardiac ischemia; coronary artery disease; thromboembolism; myocardial infarction or any other ischemic related disease), brain injury or damage (including but not limited to traumatic brain injury is taken from the group: diffuse axonal injury; concussion; contusion; whiplash or any other traumatic head or brain injury), acquired brain injury (including but not limited to stroke; anoxic brain injury; hypoxic brain injury or any other acquired brain injury), age related inflammatory or autoimmune disease, cachexia (including related conditions such as AIDS wasting disease, weight loss associated with cancer, chronic obstructive pulmonary disease or infectious diseases such as tuberculosis), nausea and vomiting, glaucoma, movement disorders, rheumatoid arthritis, asthma, allergy, psoriasis, Crohn's disease, systemic lupus erythematosus, diabetes, cancer, osteoporosis, renal ischemia and nephritis." WOW ? Gov. will make a HUGE deal of the administration method. A report out today quotes one Doctor still claiming smoking Cannabis causes lung cancer. Dr. Tashkin did a 30 year study on this, and no it does NOT cause lung cancer. In fact, Dr. Tashkin reports there is a 'slight protective effect' from smoked Cannabis. GW Pharmaceuticals Cannabis Patents! http://www.faqs.org/ patents/assignee/gw- pharma-limited/ And this Patent.... well, Dr. William Courtney says that this Patent is reason enough that ANYONE should be using Cannabis daily. The U.S. Government, by way of the Dept. of Health, holds a Patent for Cannabinoids as a potent neuroprotectant: http://patft.uspto.g ov/netacgi/nph-Parse r?Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=H ITOFF&d=PALL&p=1&u=% 2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fs rchnum.htm&r=1&f=G&l =50&s1=6630507.PN.&O S=PN/6630507&RS=PN/6 630507 "Cannabinoids as antioxidants and neuroprotectants Abstract Cannabinoids have been found to have antioxidant properties, unrelated to NMDA receptor antagonism. This new found property makes cannabinoids useful in the treatment and prophylaxis of wide variety of oxidation associated diseases, such as ischemic, age-related, inflammatory and autoimmune diseases. The cannabinoids are found to have particular application as neuroprotectants, for example in limiting neurological damage following ischemic insults, such as stroke and trauma, or in the treatment of neurodegenerative diseases, such as Alzheimer's disease, Parkinson's disease and HIV dementia" Altohugh, this obviously conflicts with GW's PAtents. :) There's a bloody goldrush for Cannabis Patents, whilst the sick individual like this lady, and myself, are criminalized for personal use! No one would openly support and take part in a Government, if the purpose proposed, was to criminalize people for their choice of medicine, because, no such authority exists! :) (Chester vs. Afshar), 2005, House of Lords, "In modern law medical paternalism no longer rules" My body, my choice.... move along now! Tom Speed

3:44pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Tom Speed says...

Also note, Sativex is WHOLE PLANT EXTRACT. It includes many Cannabinoids, not just THC & CBD.

GW Pharma state in at least one of their Patents how "surprised" they are that whole plant extact or BDS as they call it (Botanical Drug Substance), works much better at treating conditions than single, isolated Cannabinoids!

I've nothing against Scientists isolating particular molecules and creating a marketable product for regular consumers, but that doesn't 'auto-magically' make existing use of herbal Cannabis suddenly 'not a medicine', which is exactly what Gov. and GW have tried to do in recent literature.

Comparing Sativex to "crude" herbal Cannabis, even though they clearly state in their Patents how Cannabis has been used for thousands of years as medicine.

Lame PR exercise.
Also note, Sativex is WHOLE PLANT EXTRACT. It includes many Cannabinoids, not just THC & CBD. GW Pharma state in at least one of their Patents how "surprised" they are that whole plant extact or BDS as they call it (Botanical Drug Substance), works much better at treating conditions than single, isolated Cannabinoids! I've nothing against Scientists isolating particular molecules and creating a marketable product for regular consumers, but that doesn't 'auto-magically' make existing use of herbal Cannabis suddenly 'not a medicine', which is exactly what Gov. and GW have tried to do in recent literature. Comparing Sativex to "crude" herbal Cannabis, even though they clearly state in their Patents how Cannabis has been used for thousands of years as medicine. Lame PR exercise. Tom Speed

3:56pm Thu 17 Oct 13

Juergen1957 says...

Denial of cannabis by Prohibition ‘law’ premeditatedly inflicts suffering, blindness, and, in many instances, death. Those who maintain any use of life-saving cannabis to be "illegal" should be regarded and treated as perpetrators of the gravest of crimes, and deemed unfit to hold any public office in a democratic society.

The Report collates Empirical Evidence and the Findings of Fact of official clinical studies which exonerate cannabis and vindicate all cultivation, trade, possession and use. The Report establishes massive ulterior money-motive and prejury behind prohibition; and indicts government.

The Report presents irrefutable Legal Grounds for Restoration: Relegalisation, Amnesty & Restitution.

THE REPORT. CANNABIS: THE FACTS, HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LAW ISBN 9781902848204.
Denial of cannabis by Prohibition ‘law’ premeditatedly inflicts suffering, blindness, and, in many instances, death. Those who maintain any use of life-saving cannabis to be "illegal" should be regarded and treated as perpetrators of the gravest of crimes, and deemed unfit to hold any public office in a democratic society. The Report collates Empirical Evidence and the Findings of Fact of official clinical studies which exonerate cannabis and vindicate all cultivation, trade, possession and use. The Report establishes massive ulterior money-motive and prejury behind prohibition; and indicts government. The Report presents irrefutable Legal Grounds for Restoration: Relegalisation, Amnesty & Restitution. THE REPORT. CANNABIS: THE FACTS, HUMAN RIGHTS AND THE LAW ISBN 9781902848204. Juergen1957

7:19pm Thu 17 Oct 13

oafie says...

Bit ironic really given all the research undertaken in Oxford and the amount grown for research and medical use locally
Bit ironic really given all the research undertaken in Oxford and the amount grown for research and medical use locally oafie

3:13am Fri 18 Oct 13

LynnieHeal says...

What am finding so hard to beleive is MS drugs are promoted and classed as legal , where to so many have died on . Many MS drugs have caused PML and deaths .Worldwide 40,000 have had CCSVI which UK is denying which is also not making any sense either.Someone needs to investigate whats really going on in MS and wake up to it all too. It is known as the hidden disease and easy to work out why.
What am finding so hard to beleive is MS drugs are promoted and classed as legal , where to so many have died on . Many MS drugs have caused PML and deaths .Worldwide 40,000 have had CCSVI which UK is denying which is also not making any sense either.Someone needs to investigate whats really going on in MS and wake up to it all too. It is known as the hidden disease and easy to work out why. LynnieHeal

3:15am Fri 18 Oct 13

LynnieHeal says...

If this is a law thats being broken why isnt there laws also for the MS drugs tahts killed many also ? and why hasnt no one delved more into whats really going on in the UK ?
If this is a law thats being broken why isnt there laws also for the MS drugs tahts killed many also ? and why hasnt no one delved more into whats really going on in the UK ? LynnieHeal

3:36am Fri 18 Oct 13

LynnieHeal says...

http://www.youtube.c
om/watch?v=rY0xXwf_B
k4&feature=share&lis
t=PL749AD16782C35C4E watch this video of MS these videos were made because the MS charitys would not help her
http://www.youtube.c om/watch?v=rY0xXwf_B k4&feature=share&lis t=PL749AD16782C35C4E watch this video of MS these videos were made because the MS charitys would not help her LynnieHeal

1:03pm Fri 18 Oct 13

sparro says...

Hi, Just a thought, Michelle, have you looked at L D N? It has helped my wife lots with her MS, just goggle ldn & you might learn something. Good luck
Hi, Just a thought, Michelle, have you looked at L D N? It has helped my wife lots with her MS, just goggle ldn & you might learn something. Good luck sparro

1:22pm Fri 18 Oct 13

Adrian1 says...

I dislike with a passion the use of drugs for recreational purposes. However from what I read here it would appear that approved drugs are withheld from those suffering when we have a free at point of use health service to provide for those in requirement. This I find disgusting. In the event that those made to suffer from a system that purpordedly looks after them feels threatened by those individuals who are then forced to self treat effectively, the sensible option is to provide the approved drugs free at point of use across the board. I still in no way support recreational use of such drugs.
I dislike with a passion the use of drugs for recreational purposes. However from what I read here it would appear that approved drugs are withheld from those suffering when we have a free at point of use health service to provide for those in requirement. This I find disgusting. In the event that those made to suffer from a system that purpordedly looks after them feels threatened by those individuals who are then forced to self treat effectively, the sensible option is to provide the approved drugs free at point of use across the board. I still in no way support recreational use of such drugs. Adrian1

4:42am Sat 19 Oct 13

Kobyd73 says...

Not sure about smoking cannibis, but listen to these stories regarding this product (legal), the 2nd lady has MS, here results are incredible!!
http://youtu.be/QKDu
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Not sure about smoking cannibis, but listen to these stories regarding this product (legal), the 2nd lady has MS, here results are incredible!! http://youtu.be/QKDu Zq5sEos Kobyd73

9:04am Sat 19 Oct 13

Lord Palmerstone says...

The debate goes on, but it's curious that Michael X should be cautioned by police where most would say the public interest does not demand it, whilst left wing Keir Starmer, ending his reign as DPP indicates it is not in the public interest to prosecute "doctors" who kill babies because they're little girls.
The debate goes on, but it's curious that Michael X should be cautioned by police where most would say the public interest does not demand it, whilst left wing Keir Starmer, ending his reign as DPP indicates it is not in the public interest to prosecute "doctors" who kill babies because they're little girls. Lord Palmerstone

11:53am Sat 19 Oct 13

max3 says...

sparro wrote:
Hi, Just a thought, Michelle, have you looked at L D N? It has helped my wife lots with her MS, just goggle ldn & you might learn something. Good luck
the death rate on Low dose Narcotics is rather alarming X id vote the herb over that choice anyday :) but good point... I am in this for the long game :)
[quote][p][bold]sparro[/bold] wrote: Hi, Just a thought, Michelle, have you looked at L D N? It has helped my wife lots with her MS, just goggle ldn & you might learn something. Good luck[/p][/quote]the death rate on Low dose Narcotics is rather alarming X id vote the herb over that choice anyday :) but good point... I am in this for the long game :) max3

3:08pm Sat 19 Oct 13

Owen Richards says...

Your poll question is inaccurate.

Sativex does not contain "a component of cannabis". It is an whole plant extract containing all the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids and other compounds in the plants from which it is made.
Your poll question is inaccurate. Sativex does not contain "a component of cannabis". It is an whole plant extract containing all the cannabinoids, terpenes, flavonoids and other compounds in the plants from which it is made. Owen Richards

3:26pm Sat 19 Oct 13

stop the lie says...

seems to me that most of the commentators here are far better educated than the reporters why? are the reporters just pushing the old misinformation lines or are they reading the comments ? the facts need to be shouted out in this case and any human with the most basic intelligence can see cannabis prohibition is not only wrong but in this case is downright evil . time for the press to demand change
seems to me that most of the commentators here are far better educated than the reporters why? are the reporters just pushing the old misinformation lines or are they reading the comments ? the facts need to be shouted out in this case and any human with the most basic intelligence can see cannabis prohibition is not only wrong but in this case is downright evil . time for the press to demand change stop the lie

8:43pm Sat 19 Oct 13

profondo asbo says...

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8:35pm Sun 20 Oct 13

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12:49pm Mon 21 Oct 13

Juergen1957 says...

LynnieHeal wrote:
What am finding so hard to beleive is MS drugs are promoted and classed as legal , where to so many have died on . Many MS drugs have caused PML and deaths .Worldwide 40,000 have had CCSVI which UK is denying which is also not making any sense either.Someone needs to investigate whats really going on in MS and wake up to it all too. It is known as the hidden disease and easy to work out why.
The newest scientific research found a possible infection as reason for MS, therefore I do now know why Cannabisextract has healed me from the MS.

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[quote][p][bold]LynnieHeal[/bold] wrote: What am finding so hard to beleive is MS drugs are promoted and classed as legal , where to so many have died on . Many MS drugs have caused PML and deaths .Worldwide 40,000 have had CCSVI which UK is denying which is also not making any sense either.Someone needs to investigate whats really going on in MS and wake up to it all too. It is known as the hidden disease and easy to work out why.[/p][/quote]The newest scientific research found a possible infection as reason for MS, therefore I do now know why Cannabisextract has healed me from the MS. http://www.redorbit. com/news/health/1112 978154/toxin-emittin g-bacteria-being-eva luated-as-a-potentia l-multiple-sclerosis -trigger/?fb_action_ ids=1020087566383874 0&fb_action_types=og .likes&fb_ref=s%3Dsh owShareBarUI%3Ap%3Df acebook-like&fb_sour ce=aggregation&fb_ag gregation_id=2883814 81237582 Juergen1957

3:04pm Tue 22 Oct 13

FlyingTooLow says...

For this young lady to be harassed by law enforcement is preposterous.

I first tried marijuana when I was 21 years old. Now, 45 years later, I still smoke pot.

I am 66 years old and have not taken a prescription medication in over 30 years. Has regular cannabis use enabled this? I have no idea.

I am active...hiking, canoeing, camping, bicycling. My last hike was 11.5 miles...to the Confluence Overlook in Canyonlands Natl Park. Has cannabis enabled this? I don't know.

I do know that I am living proof that prohibitionist propaganda is a fallacy...a blatant lie.

The worst experience I ever had with cannabis was spending 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense.

I wrote about the escapades that led to my imprisonment. The book:

‘Shoulda Robbed a Bank’…

It’s on Amazon…true story…by Hugh Yonn
For this young lady to be harassed by law enforcement is preposterous. I first tried marijuana when I was 21 years old. Now, 45 years later, I still smoke pot. I am 66 years old and have not taken a prescription medication in over 30 years. Has regular cannabis use enabled this? I have no idea. I am active...hiking, canoeing, camping, bicycling. My last hike was 11.5 miles...to the Confluence Overlook in Canyonlands Natl Park. Has cannabis enabled this? I don't know. I do know that I am living proof that prohibitionist propaganda is a fallacy...a blatant lie. The worst experience I ever had with cannabis was spending 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense. I wrote about the escapades that led to my imprisonment. The book: ‘Shoulda Robbed a Bank’… It’s on Amazon…true story…by Hugh Yonn FlyingTooLow

5:34pm Sat 26 Oct 13

Dr Martin says...

FlyingTooLow wrote:
For this young lady to be harassed by law enforcement is preposterous.

I first tried marijuana when I was 21 years old. Now, 45 years later, I still smoke pot.

I am 66 years old and have not taken a prescription medication in over 30 years. Has regular cannabis use enabled this? I have no idea.

I am active...hiking, canoeing, camping, bicycling. My last hike was 11.5 miles...to the Confluence Overlook in Canyonlands Natl Park. Has cannabis enabled this? I don't know.

I do know that I am living proof that prohibitionist propaganda is a fallacy...a blatant lie.

The worst experience I ever had with cannabis was spending 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense.

I wrote about the escapades that led to my imprisonment. The book:

‘Shoulda Robbed a Bank’…

It’s on Amazon…true story…by Hugh Yonn
That what happens when you take something that is illegal
[quote][p][bold]FlyingTooLow[/bold] wrote: For this young lady to be harassed by law enforcement is preposterous. I first tried marijuana when I was 21 years old. Now, 45 years later, I still smoke pot. I am 66 years old and have not taken a prescription medication in over 30 years. Has regular cannabis use enabled this? I have no idea. I am active...hiking, canoeing, camping, bicycling. My last hike was 11.5 miles...to the Confluence Overlook in Canyonlands Natl Park. Has cannabis enabled this? I don't know. I do know that I am living proof that prohibitionist propaganda is a fallacy...a blatant lie. The worst experience I ever had with cannabis was spending 5 years in Federal Prison for a marijuana offense. I wrote about the escapades that led to my imprisonment. The book: ‘Shoulda Robbed a Bank’… It’s on Amazon…true story…by Hugh Yonn[/p][/quote]That what happens when you take something that is illegal Dr Martin

6:12pm Sat 26 Oct 13

FlyingTooLow says...

max3 wrote:
The other major part of the story was also missed...

Magistrates Court and then Crown Court dates... I was ready to fight this all the way.

I had my Crown Court date Monday 14th Crown Court Oxford Court 1 10am...
Then i receive a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution...

Why was i treated differently if it is so illegal even for medical use?

The LAW is not doing its job? or the LAW should be changed?
@ max3...

"... a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution..."

Exactly the same thing was done with a lady in Florida in the United States. She grows her own cannabis to combat her symptoms from Lou Gehrig's disease. Police entered her home with guns drawn. She was in her wheel chair. The prosecuting attorney told her to plead guilty to cultivation and that would 'end it.' She refused and asked for a jury trial. Prosecution remains mum. Times are changing...finally..
.
[quote][p][bold]max3[/bold] wrote: The other major part of the story was also missed... Magistrates Court and then Crown Court dates... I was ready to fight this all the way. I had my Crown Court date Monday 14th Crown Court Oxford Court 1 10am... Then i receive a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution... Why was i treated differently if it is so illegal even for medical use? The LAW is not doing its job? or the LAW should be changed?[/p][/quote]@ max3... "... a phone call from the arresting officer on Sunday 13th in the afternoon and i am offered a simple caution..." Exactly the same thing was done with a lady in Florida in the United States. She grows her own cannabis to combat her symptoms from Lou Gehrig's disease. Police entered her home with guns drawn. She was in her wheel chair. The prosecuting attorney told her to plead guilty to cultivation and that would 'end it.' She refused and asked for a jury trial. Prosecution remains mum. Times are changing...finally.. . FlyingTooLow

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