WELFARE REFORMS: Claimants told they’ll be worse off

Oxford Mail: Oxfordshire welfare rights adviser Peter Turville talks to reporter Freddie Whittaker. Picture: OX59984 Ed Nix Buy this photo Oxfordshire welfare rights adviser Peter Turville talks to reporter Freddie Whittaker. Picture: OX59984 Ed Nix

OXFORDSHIRE Welfare Rights adviser Peter Turville said people from all walks of life would be affected by changes to welfare reforms.

He said universal credit would leave lots of claimants worse-off, and said the complicated nature of the new system would create extra work for councils and advice centres.

He said: “In effect what they’re doing is combining existing complex means-tested benefits. There will be winners and losers, although there will be more losers.

“The group which is going to be the worst affected will be people with disabilities because the current additions they get to their benefits will be cut.

“In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income. There will be scenarios in which people will be hit by several different things at once.”

He added: “They’re not simplifying the system. That’s the big myth. If you look at the detail of the means test it’s more complicated than the current system.

“It’s all about saving money, and it’s a legitimate Government policy to look at the social security system, but the spin they have put on it is so inaccurate.

“I think they have been very successful at spinning this, with their saints and scroungers message, to make people believe that the problem with the welfare system is the people who claim benefits.”

DWP spokesman Dan Barnes said claims that universal credit would not simplify benefits was “nonsense”.

He said: “The claim that the old system is simpler completely dumbfounds me.

“Universal Credit will be a lot simpler for people to understand what they are getting and how that will change if they go to work.”

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6:16pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Quentin Walker says...

It is highly unfortunate that the people abusing the benefits system have brought the new system, which will affect genuine claimants, into being.

The welfare system in this country was second to none. It is down to the economic climate and the abuse of the regime by professional claimants that have destroyed it - and destroyed it for the people who really need it and whom it was designed to help.

I hope the abusers feel thoroughly ashamed - but I very much doubt that they will.
It is highly unfortunate that the people abusing the benefits system have brought the new system, which will affect genuine claimants, into being. The welfare system in this country was second to none. It is down to the economic climate and the abuse of the regime by professional claimants that have destroyed it - and destroyed it for the people who really need it and whom it was designed to help. I hope the abusers feel thoroughly ashamed - but I very much doubt that they will. Quentin Walker
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7:22pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Dilligaf2010 says...

“In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income"......
.....it would be nice to be getting anywhere near that in the first place.
I agree with Quentin Walker though, the abusers have ruined it for many
“In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income"...... .....it would be nice to be getting anywhere near that in the first place. I agree with Quentin Walker though, the abusers have ruined it for many Dilligaf2010
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8:47pm Mon 1 Jul 13

EMacb says...

Universal Credit will mean that you make only one claim and receive only one monthly payment, but those are the only simple things about it. Claimants will have no idea how their benefit has been calculated and whether it is right or not because there will be so many variables all lumped into one calculation.

I agree the current system is complicated and needs simplification but this is not the way to do it.
Universal Credit will mean that you make only one claim and receive only one monthly payment, but those are the only simple things about it. Claimants will have no idea how their benefit has been calculated and whether it is right or not because there will be so many variables all lumped into one calculation. I agree the current system is complicated and needs simplification but this is not the way to do it. EMacb
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10:59pm Mon 1 Jul 13

WitneyGreen says...

"In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income"

I find it astonishing that anyone is obtaining this kind of money without working.

Those people who have abused the benefits system systematically for many years should be ashamed that they are causing hardship for genuine claimants.
"In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income" I find it astonishing that anyone is obtaining this kind of money without working. Those people who have abused the benefits system systematically for many years should be ashamed that they are causing hardship for genuine claimants. WitneyGreen
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11:32pm Mon 1 Jul 13

Dilligaf2010 says...

WitneyGreen wrote:
"In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income"

I find it astonishing that anyone is obtaining this kind of money without working.

Those people who have abused the benefits system systematically for many years should be ashamed that they are causing hardship for genuine claimants.
I completely agree, I didn't have a day out of work for over 20 years before my mental breakdown, and was paying £10K a year, into the treasury for a decade leading up to it, and was in the RAF for 12 years prior to that, but it still took me 16 weeks to get my benefits sorted, and through all that time I was on suicide watch.
Even now, I'm on just over £100 a week, which is plenty, and I'm solvent, which is more than I can say for a lot of benefit claimants who seem to have the latest TVs, games consoles, phones, fashions etc. on credit, and complain they're not getting enough money.
The genuine people are going to suffer, because of those that have been milking the system.
[quote][p][bold]WitneyGreen[/bold] wrote: "In the worst case scenarios this could mean people losing more than £200 a week in income" I find it astonishing that anyone is obtaining this kind of money without working. Those people who have abused the benefits system systematically for many years should be ashamed that they are causing hardship for genuine claimants.[/p][/quote]I completely agree, I didn't have a day out of work for over 20 years before my mental breakdown, and was paying £10K a year, into the treasury for a decade leading up to it, and was in the RAF for 12 years prior to that, but it still took me 16 weeks to get my benefits sorted, and through all that time I was on suicide watch. Even now, I'm on just over £100 a week, which is plenty, and I'm solvent, which is more than I can say for a lot of benefit claimants who seem to have the latest TVs, games consoles, phones, fashions etc. on credit, and complain they're not getting enough money. The genuine people are going to suffer, because of those that have been milking the system. Dilligaf2010
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9:52am Tue 2 Jul 13

Lord Palmerstone says...

OXFORDSHIRE Welfare Rights - it would be helpful if the language of "rights" ceased. We are not talking of rights. Welfare is a privilege.
OXFORDSHIRE Welfare Rights - it would be helpful if the language of "rights" ceased. We are not talking of rights. Welfare is a privilege. Lord Palmerstone
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10:20am Tue 2 Jul 13

Quentin Walker says...

Lord Palmerstone wrote:
OXFORDSHIRE Welfare Rights - it would be helpful if the language of "rights" ceased. We are not talking of rights. Welfare is a privilege.
Hear, hear.
[quote][p][bold]Lord Palmerstone[/bold] wrote: OXFORDSHIRE Welfare Rights - it would be helpful if the language of "rights" ceased. We are not talking of rights. Welfare is a privilege.[/p][/quote]Hear, hear. Quentin Walker
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