Clumps trust lost money on cooling towers event

The cooling towers at Didcot A Power Station

The cooling towers at Didcot A Power Station

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A CHARITY has been left £2,200 out of pocket after an estimated 2,500 people watched the demolition of the three Didcot power station cooling towers from Wittenham Clumps last Sunday.

The Earth Trust spent £4,000 providing stewards for parking, tea and coffee and temporary toilets, free of charge. But chief executive Jayne Manley said only £1,800 had been received in donations and the organisation is now appealing to the public for help.

She said: “When we found out the demolition was happening we thought people would want to be on the Clumps, which have the best view across the landscape. It was an amazing atmosphere on the day, but at the moment we are out of pocket.”

She said the trust has approached Oxfordshire County Council and South Oxfordshire District Council, for help and also plans to approach nPower, which runs the power station site.

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9:28am Sat 2 Aug 14

brucklay227 says...

Well that wasn't very bright now Jayne was it.
Well that wasn't very bright now Jayne was it. brucklay227
  • Score: 8

11:40am Sat 2 Aug 14

dant40 says...

Nice to see people go to an event for free where your not ripped off with prices
Nice to see people go to an event for free where your not ripped off with prices dant40
  • Score: 12

2:35pm Sat 2 Aug 14

mytaxes says...

Looks like you made a mistake Jayne, why should the taxpayer reimburse you?
Looks like you made a mistake Jayne, why should the taxpayer reimburse you? mytaxes
  • Score: 7

3:33pm Sat 2 Aug 14

7squatcat says...

I thinks it fantastic that the Earth Trust have such a positive approach to events and are open about mistakes like this.
I thinks it fantastic that the Earth Trust have such a positive approach to events and are open about mistakes like this. 7squatcat
  • Score: 12

11:12am Sun 3 Aug 14

brucklay227 says...

7squatcat wrote:
I thinks it fantastic that the Earth Trust have such a positive approach to events and are open about mistakes like this.
A positive approach that requires the taxpayers to foot the bill for their charity's losses is a thumping great negative in my book. Arrange an Ugly Bug Ball or something, but do it without expecting others (taxpayers) to pay for your mistakes.
[quote][p][bold]7squatcat[/bold] wrote: I thinks it fantastic that the Earth Trust have such a positive approach to events and are open about mistakes like this.[/p][/quote]A positive approach that requires the taxpayers to foot the bill for their charity's losses is a thumping great negative in my book. Arrange an Ugly Bug Ball or something, but do it without expecting others (taxpayers) to pay for your mistakes. brucklay227
  • Score: 5

5:51pm Sun 3 Aug 14

Interestedinoxford says...

Have a look at their accounts on the Charity Commission website and then laugh !
Have a look at their accounts on the Charity Commission website and then laugh ! Interestedinoxford
  • Score: 2

9:38pm Sun 3 Aug 14

cholseygeorge says...

Any one who has had dealings with the trust will no that the environment is just their tool to make money. Don't believe me look at their charges. Before they changed the trust name and put this marketing woman in charge, they had some credibility. This was just another one of her money grabbing schemes and she got it wrong. Time to write to the Charity Commission I think!
Any one who has had dealings with the trust will no that the environment is just their tool to make money. Don't believe me look at their charges. Before they changed the trust name and put this marketing woman in charge, they had some credibility. This was just another one of her money grabbing schemes and she got it wrong. Time to write to the Charity Commission I think! cholseygeorge
  • Score: 3

9:49pm Sun 3 Aug 14

cholseygeorge says...

Charity Commission Accounts at 31 March 2013 show that they have £11,226.321 in the bank - yes £11m. Why?????
Charity Commission Accounts at 31 March 2013 show that they have £11,226.321 in the bank - yes £11m. Why????? cholseygeorge
  • Score: 1

8:47am Mon 4 Aug 14

nicklox says...

cholseygeorge wrote:
Charity Commission Accounts at 31 March 2013 show that they have £11,226.321 in the bank - yes £11m. Why?????
They don't have £11m in the bank, they have £142,026. £11m is their net asset position which includes all assets (property etc.) less all liabilities.

Still pretty comfortable but check your facts before posting something that could be seen as misleading...!
[quote][p][bold]cholseygeorge[/bold] wrote: Charity Commission Accounts at 31 March 2013 show that they have £11,226.321 in the bank - yes £11m. Why?????[/p][/quote]They don't have £11m in the bank, they have £142,026. £11m is their net asset position which includes all assets (property etc.) less all liabilities. Still pretty comfortable but check your facts before posting something that could be seen as misleading...! nicklox
  • Score: 7

9:02am Mon 4 Aug 14

cholseygeorge says...

Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity.
Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity. cholseygeorge
  • Score: 2

9:04am Mon 4 Aug 14

yabbadabbadoo256 says...

cholseygeorge wrote:
Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity.
incredibly.. arent charitys obligated to invest their cash and assets into the causes they apparently support? me thinks a call to the charity commission "is" called for personally.
[quote][p][bold]cholseygeorge[/bold] wrote: Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity.[/p][/quote]incredibly.. arent charitys obligated to invest their cash and assets into the causes they apparently support? me thinks a call to the charity commission "is" called for personally. yabbadabbadoo256
  • Score: 0

10:55am Mon 4 Aug 14

Neonlights says...

So, they offered free hospitality, and are now complaining they made a loss.

Duh. If they wanted to make money from people wanting to watch the demolition of the cooling towers then they should have charged a fee instead of hoping people would give generously to their "free" hospitality.
So, they offered free hospitality, and are now complaining they made a loss. Duh. If they wanted to make money from people wanting to watch the demolition of the cooling towers then they should have charged a fee instead of hoping people would give generously to their "free" hospitality. Neonlights
  • Score: 6

1:19pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ElderP says...

yabbadabbadoo256 wrote:
cholseygeorge wrote:
Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity.
incredibly.. arent charitys obligated to invest their cash and assets into the causes they apparently support? me thinks a call to the charity commission "is" called for personally.
Call the charity commision if you must, but I should imagine most of the £11m assets are the the land which they are set up to protect. I don't think they should be selling that. The £142,026 in the bank isn't that much. Most trusts will have a 3 - 6 month running costs buffer.
[quote][p][bold]yabbadabbadoo256[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]cholseygeorge[/bold] wrote: Ok my mistake. I misread the accounts. But still a very asset and cash rich charity.[/p][/quote]incredibly.. arent charitys obligated to invest their cash and assets into the causes they apparently support? me thinks a call to the charity commission "is" called for personally.[/p][/quote]Call the charity commision if you must, but I should imagine most of the £11m assets are the the land which they are set up to protect. I don't think they should be selling that. The £142,026 in the bank isn't that much. Most trusts will have a 3 - 6 month running costs buffer. ElderP
  • Score: 4

1:23pm Mon 4 Aug 14

ElderP says...

They obviously made a mistake with this event, however, and persuing the councils and nPower to pay the shortfall... well. The councils should definately not, and nPower? Good luck with that. They should have charged for car parking on the day.
They obviously made a mistake with this event, however, and persuing the councils and nPower to pay the shortfall... well. The councils should definately not, and nPower? Good luck with that. They should have charged for car parking on the day. ElderP
  • Score: 3

9:00am Tue 5 Aug 14

HPG says...

Forget what they got in bank or own....£200 for a couple of portaloos in rent, so why the £4000? Usually volunteers help charity stuff, paying themselves for carpark duties??? Thinking they can invoice council or npower?
Forget what they got in bank or own....£200 for a couple of portaloos in rent, so why the £4000? Usually volunteers help charity stuff, paying themselves for carpark duties??? Thinking they can invoice council or npower? HPG
  • Score: 5

4:13pm Tue 5 Aug 14

EarthTrust says...

Thank you to all of you for opening and contributing to this debate – we thought we should respond to the comments above.

The story about us being ‘out of pocket’ is not something the Earth Trust put out, this was picked up by the media after the BBC contacted us last week, assuming we had made a profit from the thousands of people viewing the demolition from the Clumps.

Whilst we felt we had to correct this view, we’re focusing on how wonderful it was to see so many people viewing the demolition from the Clumps, and we are pleased that everyone stayed safe and generally respected the nature reserve and the surrounding area. It’s a very special place that many local people love and appreciate. However the land, as well as the impact of large numbers of visitors, needs to be managed so that others can enjoy it into the future.

We decided to open one of our fields as a car park after picking up that people were planning to watch the demolition from the Clumps. We didn’t know how many visitors would choose the Clumps but we didn’t want people to park dangerously on the narrow lanes. We feel we have a responsibility to look after this landscape and our visitors as best we can – and in this case this included in the middle of night, even if this would incur costs for us. We paid for a professional car parking company to steward the field, portaloos, and for our staff to work through the night. A huge amount of staff time was also spent organising the event and clearing up afterwards. As a charity, we have to raise money to cover everything we do, and this is why we chose to ask for voluntary donations for the car park and asked local councils and RWE npower to help towards the costs of the night – we were one of the few places that provided a safe place for people to park and watch the demolition. Because we did not know about the blow down until about 5 weeks beforehand, our applications for support are still being considered.

I would like to invite all of you who made comments above to come and visit us for a cup of tea and a tour around the Earth Trust Farm, we do some amazing work here and I would like to explain to you what we do and how we manage our finances. The Earth Trust connects people with the natural environment and one of the main ways we do this is through our land – places like Little Wittenham Wood, the Clumps, the River of Life, all of which are freely accessible every day of the year. In addition we offer a range of opportunities to learn about and get involved in the environment. If you are interested in a visit, or have any further questions or comments, please contact me directly jayne.manley@earthtr
ust.org.uk.

Jayne Manley, Chief Executive, Earth Trust
Thank you to all of you for opening and contributing to this debate – we thought we should respond to the comments above. The story about us being ‘out of pocket’ is not something the Earth Trust put out, this was picked up by the media after the BBC contacted us last week, assuming we had made a profit from the thousands of people viewing the demolition from the Clumps. Whilst we felt we had to correct this view, we’re focusing on how wonderful it was to see so many people viewing the demolition from the Clumps, and we are pleased that everyone stayed safe and generally respected the nature reserve and the surrounding area. It’s a very special place that many local people love and appreciate. However the land, as well as the impact of large numbers of visitors, needs to be managed so that others can enjoy it into the future. We decided to open one of our fields as a car park after picking up that people were planning to watch the demolition from the Clumps. We didn’t know how many visitors would choose the Clumps but we didn’t want people to park dangerously on the narrow lanes. We feel we have a responsibility to look after this landscape and our visitors as best we can – and in this case this included in the middle of night, even if this would incur costs for us. We paid for a professional car parking company to steward the field, portaloos, and for our staff to work through the night. A huge amount of staff time was also spent organising the event and clearing up afterwards. As a charity, we have to raise money to cover everything we do, and this is why we chose to ask for voluntary donations for the car park and asked local councils and RWE npower to help towards the costs of the night – we were one of the few places that provided a safe place for people to park and watch the demolition. Because we did not know about the blow down until about 5 weeks beforehand, our applications for support are still being considered. I would like to invite all of you who made comments above to come and visit us for a cup of tea and a tour around the Earth Trust Farm, we do some amazing work here and I would like to explain to you what we do and how we manage our finances. The Earth Trust connects people with the natural environment and one of the main ways we do this is through our land – places like Little Wittenham Wood, the Clumps, the River of Life, all of which are freely accessible every day of the year. In addition we offer a range of opportunities to learn about and get involved in the environment. If you are interested in a visit, or have any further questions or comments, please contact me directly jayne.manley@earthtr ust.org.uk. Jayne Manley, Chief Executive, Earth Trust EarthTrust
  • Score: 22

2:05pm Fri 8 Aug 14

yabbadabbadoo256 says...

EarthTrust wrote:
Thank you to all of you for opening and contributing to this debate – we thought we should respond to the comments above.

The story about us being ‘out of pocket’ is not something the Earth Trust put out, this was picked up by the media after the BBC contacted us last week, assuming we had made a profit from the thousands of people viewing the demolition from the Clumps.

Whilst we felt we had to correct this view, we’re focusing on how wonderful it was to see so many people viewing the demolition from the Clumps, and we are pleased that everyone stayed safe and generally respected the nature reserve and the surrounding area. It’s a very special place that many local people love and appreciate. However the land, as well as the impact of large numbers of visitors, needs to be managed so that others can enjoy it into the future.

We decided to open one of our fields as a car park after picking up that people were planning to watch the demolition from the Clumps. We didn’t know how many visitors would choose the Clumps but we didn’t want people to park dangerously on the narrow lanes. We feel we have a responsibility to look after this landscape and our visitors as best we can – and in this case this included in the middle of night, even if this would incur costs for us. We paid for a professional car parking company to steward the field, portaloos, and for our staff to work through the night. A huge amount of staff time was also spent organising the event and clearing up afterwards. As a charity, we have to raise money to cover everything we do, and this is why we chose to ask for voluntary donations for the car park and asked local councils and RWE npower to help towards the costs of the night – we were one of the few places that provided a safe place for people to park and watch the demolition. Because we did not know about the blow down until about 5 weeks beforehand, our applications for support are still being considered.

I would like to invite all of you who made comments above to come and visit us for a cup of tea and a tour around the Earth Trust Farm, we do some amazing work here and I would like to explain to you what we do and how we manage our finances. The Earth Trust connects people with the natural environment and one of the main ways we do this is through our land – places like Little Wittenham Wood, the Clumps, the River of Life, all of which are freely accessible every day of the year. In addition we offer a range of opportunities to learn about and get involved in the environment. If you are interested in a visit, or have any further questions or comments, please contact me directly jayne.manley@earthtr

ust.org.uk.

Jayne Manley, Chief Executive, Earth Trust
WHy pay for a professional parking company? (bulk of costs there) when you could have had plenty of volunteers.. Army cadet corps? scouts? your volunteers?
[quote][p][bold]EarthTrust[/bold] wrote: Thank you to all of you for opening and contributing to this debate – we thought we should respond to the comments above. The story about us being ‘out of pocket’ is not something the Earth Trust put out, this was picked up by the media after the BBC contacted us last week, assuming we had made a profit from the thousands of people viewing the demolition from the Clumps. Whilst we felt we had to correct this view, we’re focusing on how wonderful it was to see so many people viewing the demolition from the Clumps, and we are pleased that everyone stayed safe and generally respected the nature reserve and the surrounding area. It’s a very special place that many local people love and appreciate. However the land, as well as the impact of large numbers of visitors, needs to be managed so that others can enjoy it into the future. We decided to open one of our fields as a car park after picking up that people were planning to watch the demolition from the Clumps. We didn’t know how many visitors would choose the Clumps but we didn’t want people to park dangerously on the narrow lanes. We feel we have a responsibility to look after this landscape and our visitors as best we can – and in this case this included in the middle of night, even if this would incur costs for us. We paid for a professional car parking company to steward the field, portaloos, and for our staff to work through the night. A huge amount of staff time was also spent organising the event and clearing up afterwards. As a charity, we have to raise money to cover everything we do, and this is why we chose to ask for voluntary donations for the car park and asked local councils and RWE npower to help towards the costs of the night – we were one of the few places that provided a safe place for people to park and watch the demolition. Because we did not know about the blow down until about 5 weeks beforehand, our applications for support are still being considered. I would like to invite all of you who made comments above to come and visit us for a cup of tea and a tour around the Earth Trust Farm, we do some amazing work here and I would like to explain to you what we do and how we manage our finances. The Earth Trust connects people with the natural environment and one of the main ways we do this is through our land – places like Little Wittenham Wood, the Clumps, the River of Life, all of which are freely accessible every day of the year. In addition we offer a range of opportunities to learn about and get involved in the environment. If you are interested in a visit, or have any further questions or comments, please contact me directly jayne.manley@earthtr ust.org.uk. Jayne Manley, Chief Executive, Earth Trust[/p][/quote]WHy pay for a professional parking company? (bulk of costs there) when you could have had plenty of volunteers.. Army cadet corps? scouts? your volunteers? yabbadabbadoo256
  • Score: 0

4:07pm Fri 8 Aug 14

robbo81 says...

All I can say is that Jayne @ Earth Trust has officially owned all of you!!!

£140k ish in cash is nothing really. Charities more so than most private companies will have a heavily policed ethical charter often a part of that is ensuring they can pay the staff for around 6 months as well as cover costs of necessary services. Anything they then do has to be fund-raised for.
All I can say is that Jayne @ Earth Trust has officially owned all of you!!! £140k ish in cash is nothing really. Charities more so than most private companies will have a heavily policed ethical charter often a part of that is ensuring they can pay the staff for around 6 months as well as cover costs of necessary services. Anything they then do has to be fund-raised for. robbo81
  • Score: 1

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