4.40pm UPDATE: Queues beginning on A34 this evening due to Kennington roundabout work

'Standstill' traffic for on the A34 as Kennington and Hinksey roundabout works begin

'Standstill' traffic for on the A34 as Kennington and Hinksey roundabout works begin

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TRAFFIC is starting to build up back on to the A34 because of the new contraflow on the Southern Bypass because of the Kennington roundabout work.

Drivers are having to wait in both directions on the A423 Southern Bypass, whilst there are delays southbound just before the Hinksey Hill sliproad on the A34.

The traffic is expected to get worse because of the contraflow between roundabouts for Abingdon Road and the A34.

Buses are also being affected by the roadworks, with Oxford Bus Company having to divert some routes to avoid the congestion.

The X13/X3 services to and from Abingdon are currently diverting via St Swithuns Road, while there are 30 minute delays for the X3, X13, 13 and 35 services.

It comes after a horrific morning commute for thousands of motorists. There were queues northbound on the A34 as far south as Milton.

There were reports on Twitter from frustrated drivers that northbound traffic coming into the city was at a "standstill."

Traffic jams were reported to be stretching from Hinskey all the way along the A34 to Drayton. 

Drivers travelling in the area are expected to suffer “severe” delays after Oxfordshire County Council warned last week the next phase of the improvement scheme at the junctions was set to begin on Sunday.

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  • Gridlocked traffic at the Kennington roundabout as work begins

Drivers from South Oxfordshire and the Vale saw their journey times into Oxford almost triple this morning as roadworks hampered their morning commute.

Some said on social media that the drive from Abingdon to Oxford – normally 20 to 25 minutes – had been taking longer than an hour and a quarter. Northbound traffic coming into the city was said to be at a "standstill."

Drivers travelling in the area should expect to suffer severe delays, Oxfordshire County Council warned last week, after the next phase of the improvement scheme at the Oxford junctions began on Sunday.

That has seen a 24-hour contraflow system introduced between Hinksey Hill Interchange and Heyford Hill Interchange, which is expected to last until November.

As a result of the contraflow system, there is also restricted to side roads of the A423.

It is hoped that when the work, which will convert Kennington Roundabout into a “hamburger” junction, will eventually reduce congestion.

Oxford Bus Company said its  X13, 13 and X3 services were all affected and Stagecoach said its 3, 12, 16, X30, 31 and 34 services were all facing delays. One bus passenger said his journey from Abingdon on the X3 had taken more than two hours to reach Oxford Station.

 

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8:55am Mon 28 Jul 14

OxfordRob says...

Did any of this really get planned! I know it was going to be bad but bare in mind that we are in School Holiday time so traffic is not as busy but it took me 40 minutes from 7:30AM to get from the slip road up to Hinksey Hill roundabout to get to Sainsburys at Heyford Hill roundabout. God helps those that have to start work for 9AM as you will have to give so much more time.

It is not helped by people ignoring the south bound Hinskey Hill signage and queuing in the right lane that should be ahead or right only. All those dutifully sat in the Left turn only lane have to see them queue barge and then at the top of the roundabout force their way in when they realise it is going single file.

Oh and one more moan. WHY ARE THEY NOT WORKING ON THE ROAD!

Surely they should all be working. It is one thing to queue but another stuck like this when no workmen are doing anything!

Right I am off to a calm cupboard to recover.
Did any of this really get planned! I know it was going to be bad but bare in mind that we are in School Holiday time so traffic is not as busy but it took me 40 minutes from 7:30AM to get from the slip road up to Hinksey Hill roundabout to get to Sainsburys at Heyford Hill roundabout. God helps those that have to start work for 9AM as you will have to give so much more time. It is not helped by people ignoring the south bound Hinskey Hill signage and queuing in the right lane that should be ahead or right only. All those dutifully sat in the Left turn only lane have to see them queue barge and then at the top of the roundabout force their way in when they realise it is going single file. Oh and one more moan. WHY ARE THEY NOT WORKING ON THE ROAD! Surely they should all be working. It is one thing to queue but another stuck like this when no workmen are doing anything! Right I am off to a calm cupboard to recover. OxfordRob
  • Score: 41

9:15am Mon 28 Jul 14

Harold&Albert says...

I agree with Oxford Rob!

Planning? No I don't think so!

On the Hinksey hill roundabout 3 lines are trying to squeeze into 1 ... hmm nice.

I got to the 200 yard marker for the exit for Hinksey hill off the A34 at 7.10 ish - at 8AM I am finally on the contra-flow - that works fine once you can actually get on it!

I dread to think of the queue coming from Boars hill - didn't look like those cars could enter at all - and then at the Kennington roundabout - with no lights there no one was letting the Abingdon Road / Park and Ride traffic off.

And yes - not one person working!

If you're having a 24 hour contra flow then let's have 24 hour working please.

This will be impossible in 5 weeks when the school holidays finish!
I agree with Oxford Rob! Planning? No I don't think so! On the Hinksey hill roundabout 3 lines are trying to squeeze into 1 ... hmm nice. I got to the 200 yard marker for the exit for Hinksey hill off the A34 at 7.10 ish - at 8AM I am finally on the contra-flow - that works fine once you can actually get on it! I dread to think of the queue coming from Boars hill - didn't look like those cars could enter at all - and then at the Kennington roundabout - with no lights there no one was letting the Abingdon Road / Park and Ride traffic off. And yes - not one person working! If you're having a 24 hour contra flow then let's have 24 hour working please. This will be impossible in 5 weeks when the school holidays finish! Harold&Albert
  • Score: 37

10:11am Mon 28 Jul 14

docs says...

It was congested enough at 6.30 last evening with light Sunday evening traffic: it was clear that it was going to get really bad this morning.

The lack of lights at the Kennington roundabout for access to the Abingdon Road traffic is absurd.

In the next few days, some traffic will no doubt get displaced. The Botley Road will be worse than ever, and Rose Hill is going to get busy methinks.
It was congested enough at 6.30 last evening with light Sunday evening traffic: it was clear that it was going to get really bad this morning. The lack of lights at the Kennington roundabout for access to the Abingdon Road traffic is absurd. In the next few days, some traffic will no doubt get displaced. The Botley Road will be worse than ever, and Rose Hill is going to get busy methinks. docs
  • Score: 14

10:22am Mon 28 Jul 14

Canismajoris says...

docs wrote:
It was congested enough at 6.30 last evening with light Sunday evening traffic: it was clear that it was going to get really bad this morning.

The lack of lights at the Kennington roundabout for access to the Abingdon Road traffic is absurd.

In the next few days, some traffic will no doubt get displaced. The Botley Road will be worse than ever, and Rose Hill is going to get busy methinks.
People already are moving around to avoid this. The traffic at CliftonHampden was tailed back to Notcutts garden center Nuneham courtenay yesterday afternoon.

Why are there not 24hr work crews on this job?
[quote][p][bold]docs[/bold] wrote: It was congested enough at 6.30 last evening with light Sunday evening traffic: it was clear that it was going to get really bad this morning. The lack of lights at the Kennington roundabout for access to the Abingdon Road traffic is absurd. In the next few days, some traffic will no doubt get displaced. The Botley Road will be worse than ever, and Rose Hill is going to get busy methinks.[/p][/quote]People already are moving around to avoid this. The traffic at CliftonHampden was tailed back to Notcutts garden center Nuneham courtenay yesterday afternoon. Why are there not 24hr work crews on this job? Canismajoris
  • Score: 17

10:22am Mon 28 Jul 14

OxfordRob says...

How much is a helicopter to hire until November?
How much is a helicopter to hire until November? OxfordRob
  • Score: 12

10:58am Mon 28 Jul 14

the wizard says...

OxfordRob wrote:
Did any of this really get planned! I know it was going to be bad but bare in mind that we are in School Holiday time so traffic is not as busy but it took me 40 minutes from 7:30AM to get from the slip road up to Hinksey Hill roundabout to get to Sainsburys at Heyford Hill roundabout. God helps those that have to start work for 9AM as you will have to give so much more time.

It is not helped by people ignoring the south bound Hinskey Hill signage and queuing in the right lane that should be ahead or right only. All those dutifully sat in the Left turn only lane have to see them queue barge and then at the top of the roundabout force their way in when they realise it is going single file.

Oh and one more moan. WHY ARE THEY NOT WORKING ON THE ROAD!

Surely they should all be working. It is one thing to queue but another stuck like this when no workmen are doing anything!

Right I am off to a calm cupboard to recover.
Good man and very fair comments. Yet again OCC paint themselves into a corner and choose a busy period, but then again when isn't it so busy, well try at night, and try putting some men on the job who can be seen working. Why wait until now, why wait until the system has reached over capacity, why not do it just after Heyford Hill was sorted, or better still, why wasn't it done years ago when the public identified the problem. Its not flippin' rocket science but do the likes of Hudspeth and the rest of the wood at the top really live in our world ? or are they in a completely false reality.

OCC= bunch of idiots who are not fit for purpose. It really is time at the next election the general public exercise their right and we have a cull of these idiots that bring so much misery to our lives instead of enriching it with a County that works for us, the public.

Rob, I think I'll have to do the same and take a large Chill pill.
[quote][p][bold]OxfordRob[/bold] wrote: Did any of this really get planned! I know it was going to be bad but bare in mind that we are in School Holiday time so traffic is not as busy but it took me 40 minutes from 7:30AM to get from the slip road up to Hinksey Hill roundabout to get to Sainsburys at Heyford Hill roundabout. God helps those that have to start work for 9AM as you will have to give so much more time. It is not helped by people ignoring the south bound Hinskey Hill signage and queuing in the right lane that should be ahead or right only. All those dutifully sat in the Left turn only lane have to see them queue barge and then at the top of the roundabout force their way in when they realise it is going single file. Oh and one more moan. WHY ARE THEY NOT WORKING ON THE ROAD! Surely they should all be working. It is one thing to queue but another stuck like this when no workmen are doing anything! Right I am off to a calm cupboard to recover.[/p][/quote]Good man and very fair comments. Yet again OCC paint themselves into a corner and choose a busy period, but then again when isn't it so busy, well try at night, and try putting some men on the job who can be seen working. Why wait until now, why wait until the system has reached over capacity, why not do it just after Heyford Hill was sorted, or better still, why wasn't it done years ago when the public identified the problem. Its not flippin' rocket science but do the likes of Hudspeth and the rest of the wood at the top really live in our world ? or are they in a completely false reality. OCC= bunch of idiots who are not fit for purpose. It really is time at the next election the general public exercise their right and we have a cull of these idiots that bring so much misery to our lives instead of enriching it with a County that works for us, the public. Rob, I think I'll have to do the same and take a large Chill pill. the wizard
  • Score: 23

12:29pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Miss Cynical says...

This is an absolutely ridiculous situation.

People have jobs. They need to earn money. Nurses need to get to hospitals. People have lives to lead. We can all stomach a bit of disruption but expecting people to arrive 1.5 hours late for things is totally unacceptable. What did they think was going to happen here? What is the cost to the economy of this?

It took me 1.5 hours to get from Rose Hill to Milton Park today. I will obviously leave earlier for the rest of the week - 4am should just about cover it, I think...
This is an absolutely ridiculous situation. People have jobs. They need to earn money. Nurses need to get to hospitals. People have lives to lead. We can all stomach a bit of disruption but expecting people to arrive 1.5 hours late for things is totally unacceptable. What did they think was going to happen here? What is the cost to the economy of this? It took me 1.5 hours to get from Rose Hill to Milton Park today. I will obviously leave earlier for the rest of the week - 4am should just about cover it, I think... Miss Cynical
  • Score: 16

1:33pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Angry of Cowley says...

Why don't they just double or triple the amount of people working on this and make them work around the clock.
The job will take as many man hours as it takes surely. So the more men on it the quicker it would take.
Why are the council the only ones who can't see this ?
If they start going on about costs, what about the costs to the county as a whole in lost hours, pollution from cars stuck in jams etc etc.
Why don't they just double or triple the amount of people working on this and make them work around the clock. The job will take as many man hours as it takes surely. So the more men on it the quicker it would take. Why are the council the only ones who can't see this ? If they start going on about costs, what about the costs to the county as a whole in lost hours, pollution from cars stuck in jams etc etc. Angry of Cowley
  • Score: 22

1:44pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Dizzypanda says...

What a complete fiasco! I left home at 7.45 am as I left half an hour earlier to accomodate the extra traffic but still did not get to Didcot until 10.05 am. I start work at 9.00 am and had factored the traffic into my journey but obviously as I am quite curteous and do not barge to the front of the traffic queue I was again and again pushed in front of by "busy" people getting to work. Obviously I will have to figure out an alternative route as I cannot afford to take nearly two and a half hours to get to work each day.

If this was planned then surely they know the traffic gets congested between certain times and could allow more through flow - I also agree with the fact that I saw no one actually working on the road works. Perhaps thats the type of job I really should be doing!
What a complete fiasco! I left home at 7.45 am as I left half an hour earlier to accomodate the extra traffic but still did not get to Didcot until 10.05 am. I start work at 9.00 am and had factored the traffic into my journey but obviously as I am quite curteous and do not barge to the front of the traffic queue I was again and again pushed in front of by "busy" people getting to work. Obviously I will have to figure out an alternative route as I cannot afford to take nearly two and a half hours to get to work each day. If this was planned then surely they know the traffic gets congested between certain times and could allow more through flow - I also agree with the fact that I saw no one actually working on the road works. Perhaps thats the type of job I really should be doing! Dizzypanda
  • Score: 7

2:12pm Mon 28 Jul 14

The New Private Eye says...

The Work is going to take 15 weeks, so that takes us into term time, and you think it is bad now. But the workers currently work (or at least get paid for) 8 hours, as mentioned above, if there was 24 hour working it would take only 5 weeks, which is bad, but nowhere near 15 weeks of pain. And once people work out alternative routes, Rose Hill, Donny Bridge, Approaches to Botley Road, and possibly Woodstock and Banbury roads will become as gridlocked. Malcolm Boyden interviewed Rodney Rose this morning and after a few excuses from Rose said to him "well basically you are saying to drivers TOUGH" and after an uncomfortable silence Rose answered not really, but I am not going to apologise. That just about says it all.
The Work is going to take 15 weeks, so that takes us into term time, and you think it is bad now. But the workers currently work (or at least get paid for) 8 hours, as mentioned above, if there was 24 hour working it would take only 5 weeks, which is bad, but nowhere near 15 weeks of pain. And once people work out alternative routes, Rose Hill, Donny Bridge, Approaches to Botley Road, and possibly Woodstock and Banbury roads will become as gridlocked. Malcolm Boyden interviewed Rodney Rose this morning and after a few excuses from Rose said to him "well basically you are saying to drivers TOUGH" and after an uncomfortable silence Rose answered not really, but I am not going to apologise. That just about says it all. The New Private Eye
  • Score: 17

2:32pm Mon 28 Jul 14

OxfordRob says...

The New Private Eye wrote:
The Work is going to take 15 weeks, so that takes us into term time, and you think it is bad now. But the workers currently work (or at least get paid for) 8 hours, as mentioned above, if there was 24 hour working it would take only 5 weeks, which is bad, but nowhere near 15 weeks of pain. And once people work out alternative routes, Rose Hill, Donny Bridge, Approaches to Botley Road, and possibly Woodstock and Banbury roads will become as gridlocked. Malcolm Boyden interviewed Rodney Rose this morning and after a few excuses from Rose said to him "well basically you are saying to drivers TOUGH" and after an uncomfortable silence Rose answered not really, but I am not going to apologise. That just about says it all.
I too heard this interview and did not realise that a limp lettuce could speak. Mind you a limp lettuce would have done better planning. What got me was when Malcolm asked Rodney why they could not do shifts with workers doing day and night he sounded surprised at a clearly good idea and just stumbled about looking into it.

I must say his teflon shoulders approach to the interview by straight away refusing to apologise was just disheartening. I already work 8 to 5 to try and pay the high nursery fees and have to get from Oxford to Faringdon for 6 each night to pick them up. Now I am going to have to loose 2.5 hours a week pay in order to leave work at 4:30 instead. Even that is going to be tight to get past it all in time.

Rodney's blasé retort that we all have to find alternatives is just not possible. He comments about public transport but that is not going to get me from Faringdon to Littlemore!

Seriously is this really all that can be done! I lament that this is the holiday season so traffic is less. They will have to do something or just close off Oxford till the end of the year and we all just stay home instead.

Please will the Oxford Mail hound Rodney and the Council for more acceptable ideas and approach to this than finding the nearest bucket of sand and sticking their heads in it!
[quote][p][bold]The New Private Eye[/bold] wrote: The Work is going to take 15 weeks, so that takes us into term time, and you think it is bad now. But the workers currently work (or at least get paid for) 8 hours, as mentioned above, if there was 24 hour working it would take only 5 weeks, which is bad, but nowhere near 15 weeks of pain. And once people work out alternative routes, Rose Hill, Donny Bridge, Approaches to Botley Road, and possibly Woodstock and Banbury roads will become as gridlocked. Malcolm Boyden interviewed Rodney Rose this morning and after a few excuses from Rose said to him "well basically you are saying to drivers TOUGH" and after an uncomfortable silence Rose answered not really, but I am not going to apologise. That just about says it all.[/p][/quote]I too heard this interview and did not realise that a limp lettuce could speak. Mind you a limp lettuce would have done better planning. What got me was when Malcolm asked Rodney why they could not do shifts with workers doing day and night he sounded surprised at a clearly good idea and just stumbled about looking into it. I must say his teflon shoulders approach to the interview by straight away refusing to apologise was just disheartening. I already work 8 to 5 to try and pay the high nursery fees and have to get from Oxford to Faringdon for 6 each night to pick them up. Now I am going to have to loose 2.5 hours a week pay in order to leave work at 4:30 instead. Even that is going to be tight to get past it all in time. Rodney's blasé retort that we all have to find alternatives is just not possible. He comments about public transport but that is not going to get me from Faringdon to Littlemore! Seriously is this really all that can be done! I lament that this is the holiday season so traffic is less. They will have to do something or just close off Oxford till the end of the year and we all just stay home instead. Please will the Oxford Mail hound Rodney and the Council for more acceptable ideas and approach to this than finding the nearest bucket of sand and sticking their heads in it! OxfordRob
  • Score: 22

3:35pm Mon 28 Jul 14

fantasticobella says...

I don't know why we are so surprised. How many years of roadworks did that bridge that crossed the A40 at Wolvercote take? It literally took years and years to complete.
Call up all the casual workers in the area - all those labourers with no work at the moment. Offer them some work and a tempting bonus based on each day the project undercuts the projected timescale (subject to a satisfactory inspection of completed roadworks) and bloody get on with it.
I don't know why we are so surprised. How many years of roadworks did that bridge that crossed the A40 at Wolvercote take? It literally took years and years to complete. Call up all the casual workers in the area - all those labourers with no work at the moment. Offer them some work and a tempting bonus based on each day the project undercuts the projected timescale (subject to a satisfactory inspection of completed roadworks) and bloody get on with it. fantasticobella
  • Score: 6

3:37pm Mon 28 Jul 14

cowley bob says...

was no problems coming down from boars hill on the pushbike this morning.
was no problems coming down from boars hill on the pushbike this morning. cowley bob
  • Score: 10

5:35pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkie says...

Left Abingdon at 07.00 arrived at work at 0930 one and a half hours late... Totally unacceptable for the other thousands who were delayed. There should be fines levied for this level of disruption. 24hr work gangs are a must, and will create jobs.. But we are all victims of cost cutting and austerity, whilst the councillors feather their nests.

The pushbike is ready for tomorrow!
Left Abingdon at 07.00 arrived at work at 0930 one and a half hours late... Totally unacceptable for the other thousands who were delayed. There should be fines levied for this level of disruption. 24hr work gangs are a must, and will create jobs.. But we are all victims of cost cutting and austerity, whilst the councillors feather their nests. The pushbike is ready for tomorrow! Parkie
  • Score: 13

6:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

learned says...

What an idiotic comment from Rose.
Use alternative routes !
How else do you get from Abingdon to Oxford !
And I agree with all of the other comments about 24/7 working.

The councillors are nothing more than incompetent prats
What an idiotic comment from Rose. Use alternative routes ! How else do you get from Abingdon to Oxford ! And I agree with all of the other comments about 24/7 working. The councillors are nothing more than incompetent prats learned
  • Score: 13

8:06pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Salesman says...

Blow the bloody lot up drives me mad, I look forward to summer holiday as it helps me get to work quicker, not this year!!!!
Blow the bloody lot up drives me mad, I look forward to summer holiday as it helps me get to work quicker, not this year!!!! Salesman
  • Score: 4

8:21pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Floflo says...

learned wrote:
What an idiotic comment from Rose.
Use alternative routes !
How else do you get from Abingdon to Oxford !
And I agree with all of the other comments about 24/7 working.

The councillors are nothing more than incompetent prats
I appreciate that it's not for everyone but a popular option is to cycle. It takes around 30 minutes from Abingdon to Oxford. You may want to give yourself longer, maybe 40 minutes in traffic.

Cycle route 5 will help you to avoid some of the traffic, or you could cross the river at Sanford lock if you are heading to East Oxford.
[quote][p][bold]learned[/bold] wrote: What an idiotic comment from Rose. Use alternative routes ! How else do you get from Abingdon to Oxford ! And I agree with all of the other comments about 24/7 working. The councillors are nothing more than incompetent prats[/p][/quote]I appreciate that it's not for everyone but a popular option is to cycle. It takes around 30 minutes from Abingdon to Oxford. You may want to give yourself longer, maybe 40 minutes in traffic. Cycle route 5 will help you to avoid some of the traffic, or you could cross the river at Sanford lock if you are heading to East Oxford. Floflo
  • Score: 3

8:41pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Dilligaf2010 says...

This is a complete and utter fiasco, 45 minutes minimum to get to the A34 from The Head of the River at about 09:20 this morning, and as I travelled from the Kennington roundabout to the A34, I saw a total of 4 OCC employees, and 3 of them were stood around a low-loader waiting for an excavator to be off-loaded.
Ian Hudspeth should resign, or at the very least be taken outside and shot!
It's all very well OCC saving a few quid by only working for 6 hours a day, but what's the cost going to be to other businesses and their employees, when traffic was queued back to the M4 at 10:00am trying to get off the A34 at the Hinksey Hill interchange.
The contract should be altered to allow 24 hour working, and the contraflow should be removed until it's actually necessary, which it isn't at the moment.
This is a complete and utter fiasco, 45 minutes minimum to get to the A34 from The Head of the River at about 09:20 this morning, and as I travelled from the Kennington roundabout to the A34, I saw a total of 4 OCC employees, and 3 of them were stood around a low-loader waiting for an excavator to be off-loaded. Ian Hudspeth should resign, or at the very least be taken outside and shot! It's all very well OCC saving a few quid by only working for 6 hours a day, but what's the cost going to be to other businesses and their employees, when traffic was queued back to the M4 at 10:00am trying to get off the A34 at the Hinksey Hill interchange. The contract should be altered to allow 24 hour working, and the contraflow should be removed until it's actually necessary, which it isn't at the moment. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 9

9:16pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Alltalk says...

I'm fairly "young" by conventional standards, and as such I'm constantly being told, by portly baby boomers usually, that my generation is lacking in work ethic. I've always been quite smug of the fact I've been in work since I was 12, and this culminated in me joining the great Milton Park battery farm to shuffle papers around for the next 50 years.

Yet, after spending 2hours 45 minutes driving 24 miles (12 miles each way) bumper to bumper with German cars worth more than my internal organs, looking through the shimmering exhaust fumes as the dregs of the best summer for many-a-year slip through my fingers I thought - maybe the skivers are right? I mean, the OCC Civil Engineers work hard and play by the rules and the best that they could come up with was a contra"flow" system seeming based on an agrarian cattle path from 1890s North Korea. Maybe being a citizen is a bit rubbish?

Don't get me wrong I tried to Magellan it, but they managed to turn every single entrance to my home city (from the South at least) into John Goodman's arteries. As mentioned by other commentors, no work seemed to be taking place, no innovative responses from the organisation presumably paid tens of millions to deliver. Just a sea of obnoxious cones and strutting workman vehicles. Poor show from a wealthy and talent-rich county. Maybe I should just have a lie-in and a strongbow black tomorrow and be done with it? You'd like that would't you , you industrious swines! Self-indulgent catharsis complete.
I'm fairly "young" by conventional standards, and as such I'm constantly being told, by portly baby boomers usually, that my generation is lacking in work ethic. I've always been quite smug of the fact I've been in work since I was 12, and this culminated in me joining the great Milton Park battery farm to shuffle papers around for the next 50 years. Yet, after spending 2hours 45 minutes driving 24 miles (12 miles each way) bumper to bumper with German cars worth more than my internal organs, looking through the shimmering exhaust fumes as the dregs of the best summer for many-a-year slip through my fingers I thought - maybe the skivers are right? I mean, the OCC Civil Engineers work hard and play by the rules and the best that they could come up with was a contra"flow" system seeming based on an agrarian cattle path from 1890s North Korea. Maybe being a citizen is a bit rubbish? Don't get me wrong I tried to Magellan it, but they managed to turn every single entrance to my home city (from the South at least) into John Goodman's arteries. As mentioned by other commentors, no work seemed to be taking place, no innovative responses from the organisation presumably paid tens of millions to deliver. Just a sea of obnoxious cones and strutting workman vehicles. Poor show from a wealthy and talent-rich county. Maybe I should just have a lie-in and a strongbow black tomorrow and be done with it? You'd like that would't you , you industrious swines! Self-indulgent catharsis complete. Alltalk
  • Score: 22

10:57pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Parkie says...

Alltalk wrote:
I'm fairly "young" by conventional standards, and as such I'm constantly being told, by portly baby boomers usually, that my generation is lacking in work ethic. I've always been quite smug of the fact I've been in work since I was 12, and this culminated in me joining the great Milton Park battery farm to shuffle papers around for the next 50 years.

Yet, after spending 2hours 45 minutes driving 24 miles (12 miles each way) bumper to bumper with German cars worth more than my internal organs, looking through the shimmering exhaust fumes as the dregs of the best summer for many-a-year slip through my fingers I thought - maybe the skivers are right? I mean, the OCC Civil Engineers work hard and play by the rules and the best that they could come up with was a contra"flow" system seeming based on an agrarian cattle path from 1890s North Korea. Maybe being a citizen is a bit rubbish?

Don't get me wrong I tried to Magellan it, but they managed to turn every single entrance to my home city (from the South at least) into John Goodman's arteries. As mentioned by other commentors, no work seemed to be taking place, no innovative responses from the organisation presumably paid tens of millions to deliver. Just a sea of obnoxious cones and strutting workman vehicles. Poor show from a wealthy and talent-rich county. Maybe I should just have a lie-in and a strongbow black tomorrow and be done with it? You'd like that would't you , you industrious swines! Self-indulgent catharsis complete.
Absolutely spot on, might get myself signed off with stress, stress caused by commuting to work so I can be a keen taxpayer.
[quote][p][bold]Alltalk[/bold] wrote: I'm fairly "young" by conventional standards, and as such I'm constantly being told, by portly baby boomers usually, that my generation is lacking in work ethic. I've always been quite smug of the fact I've been in work since I was 12, and this culminated in me joining the great Milton Park battery farm to shuffle papers around for the next 50 years. Yet, after spending 2hours 45 minutes driving 24 miles (12 miles each way) bumper to bumper with German cars worth more than my internal organs, looking through the shimmering exhaust fumes as the dregs of the best summer for many-a-year slip through my fingers I thought - maybe the skivers are right? I mean, the OCC Civil Engineers work hard and play by the rules and the best that they could come up with was a contra"flow" system seeming based on an agrarian cattle path from 1890s North Korea. Maybe being a citizen is a bit rubbish? Don't get me wrong I tried to Magellan it, but they managed to turn every single entrance to my home city (from the South at least) into John Goodman's arteries. As mentioned by other commentors, no work seemed to be taking place, no innovative responses from the organisation presumably paid tens of millions to deliver. Just a sea of obnoxious cones and strutting workman vehicles. Poor show from a wealthy and talent-rich county. Maybe I should just have a lie-in and a strongbow black tomorrow and be done with it? You'd like that would't you , you industrious swines! Self-indulgent catharsis complete.[/p][/quote]Absolutely spot on, might get myself signed off with stress, stress caused by commuting to work so I can be a keen taxpayer. Parkie
  • Score: 11

11:16pm Mon 28 Jul 14

bobrayner says...

My commute goes past Oxford on the A34, from South to North; at 8 this morning, the tailbacks reached as far south as the Milton/Didcot junction. That's a nine mile tailback, before the rush hour even gets into full swing, and during the school holidays. Caused by a road upgrade which isn't even on the A34.

OCC has never been a paragon of traffic-planning expertise, but surely as some of their own staff stumbled into the office at 11:00 this morning even OCC must have woken up to the idea that they should either reduce disruption, or get the job done quicker, or maybe just pick up all the cones and leave the roads how they were.

Of course, most infrastructure projects are a tradeoff between time, cost, and deliverables; but when such a large proportion of residents and workers are so seriously harmed by OCC's work, perhaps they could find a way to finish rearranging the roundabout before November. There's already been plenty of time to prepare, so why does it take 4 months of complete gridlock road on several major roads, just to fractionally improve flow on one road?

On oxfordshire.gov.uk there's supposed to be a traffic management document for phase 2 of this project. Unfortunately I just can't download it. Maybe the website has been DDOS'd by thousands of other people wanting an explanation for the incessant bungling.
My commute goes past Oxford on the A34, from South to North; at 8 this morning, the tailbacks reached as far south as the Milton/Didcot junction. That's a nine mile tailback, before the rush hour even gets into full swing, and during the school holidays. Caused by a road upgrade which isn't even on the A34. OCC has never been a paragon of traffic-planning expertise, but surely as some of their own staff stumbled into the office at 11:00 this morning even OCC must have woken up to the idea that they should either reduce disruption, or get the job done quicker, or maybe just pick up all the cones and leave the roads how they were. Of course, most infrastructure projects are a tradeoff between time, cost, and deliverables; but when such a large proportion of residents and workers are so seriously harmed by OCC's work, perhaps they could find a way to finish rearranging the roundabout before November. There's already been plenty of time to prepare, so why does it take 4 months of complete gridlock road on several major roads, just to fractionally improve flow on one road? On oxfordshire.gov.uk there's supposed to be a traffic management document for phase 2 of this project. Unfortunately I just can't download it. Maybe the website has been DDOS'd by thousands of other people wanting an explanation for the incessant bungling. bobrayner
  • Score: 5

11:49pm Mon 28 Jul 14

Dilligaf2010 says...

One question that's begging to be asked; why is the new feeder lane, from the A423 to the A34 at the Hinksey Hill roundabout, closed off, do OCC think we'll wear it out before the works are finished in November?
One question that's begging to be asked; why is the new feeder lane, from the A423 to the A34 at the Hinksey Hill roundabout, closed off, do OCC think we'll wear it out before the works are finished in November? Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 1

12:43am Tue 29 Jul 14

oxforddom says...

I work shifts so get to pass these roadworks at different times - the only constant is that no matter whether it's the middle of the day or middle of the night the only work that seems to be being done is moving cones around.

The fact they've created a contraflow on Saturday night and by Monday lunchtime had progressed as far as piling some dug up tarmac in the middle of the closed carriageway says it all. Rose and Hudspeth are an absolute joke, twenty weeks of severe delays to add a bit of extra tarmac around the junctions and create fifty yards of new road through the middle of the Kennington roundabout? Even in OCC where wasting time and taxpayer money is a de rigeur that must have sounded excessive!
I work shifts so get to pass these roadworks at different times - the only constant is that no matter whether it's the middle of the day or middle of the night the only work that seems to be being done is moving cones around. The fact they've created a contraflow on Saturday night and by Monday lunchtime had progressed as far as piling some dug up tarmac in the middle of the closed carriageway says it all. Rose and Hudspeth are an absolute joke, twenty weeks of severe delays to add a bit of extra tarmac around the junctions and create fifty yards of new road through the middle of the Kennington roundabout? Even in OCC where wasting time and taxpayer money is a de rigeur that must have sounded excessive! oxforddom
  • Score: 11

1:09am Tue 29 Jul 14

OxonResident says...

The back routes through the villages are going to be jammed tomorrow. Even if the A34 itself is running better, I expect many won't even attempt to take on the A34 after what they experienced on Monday. With the A420 closed down at Shrivenham at the moment there is probably extra traffic coming up the M4/A34 from Swindon at the moment too, which won't be helping.

This does seem to have been a particularly bad year for traffic disruption. We've had the winter floods, the fat-burg sewage removal, the George Street closure, several pop-up Botley road roadworks, the A34/M40 junction roadworks, the current Hinksey Hill roadworks. Next up is the Frideswide Square roadworks and St Giles Fair. Even if you don't use the actual areas directly being worked on, the knock-on effects on other routes are significant.
The back routes through the villages are going to be jammed tomorrow. Even if the A34 itself is running better, I expect many won't even attempt to take on the A34 after what they experienced on Monday. With the A420 closed down at Shrivenham at the moment there is probably extra traffic coming up the M4/A34 from Swindon at the moment too, which won't be helping. This does seem to have been a particularly bad year for traffic disruption. We've had the winter floods, the fat-burg sewage removal, the George Street closure, several pop-up Botley road roadworks, the A34/M40 junction roadworks, the current Hinksey Hill roadworks. Next up is the Frideswide Square roadworks and St Giles Fair. Even if you don't use the actual areas directly being worked on, the knock-on effects on other routes are significant. OxonResident
  • Score: 4

8:09am Tue 29 Jul 14

Will.S says...

Six Million Pounds for this pain, andYET Hospital budgets slashed by 2/3rds for the county. We seem to have councillors devoid of reality as they come on our news and shift responsibility on to us. Did you hear that buffoon Rose on the news last night? They are overpaid, over rated and overdue. Can we slash the number of councillors please to pay for a night shift to get this farce finished quickly?
Anyone considered placing police on the pinch points during rush hour to direct traffic? NO? Didn’t think so! Probably not possible with Police budgets slashed as well.
Well done OCC – par for the course.
Six Million Pounds for this pain, andYET Hospital budgets slashed by 2/3rds for the county. We seem to have councillors devoid of reality as they come on our news and shift responsibility on to us. Did you hear that buffoon Rose on the news last night? They are overpaid, over rated and overdue. Can we slash the number of councillors please to pay for a night shift to get this farce finished quickly? Anyone considered placing police on the pinch points during rush hour to direct traffic? NO? Didn’t think so! Probably not possible with Police budgets slashed as well. Well done OCC – par for the course. Will.S
  • Score: 3

8:38am Tue 29 Jul 14

Parkie says...

Parkie wrote:
Left Abingdon at 07.00 arrived at work at 0930 one and a half hours late... Totally unacceptable for the other thousands who were delayed. There should be fines levied for this level of disruption. 24hr work gangs are a must, and will create jobs.. But we are all victims of cost cutting and austerity, whilst the councillors feather their nests.

The pushbike is ready for tomorrow!
Only two hours quicker on the pushbike, shame I was nearly killed 3 times by lost drivers, who normally catch up with their sleep along the a34, trying to navigate through the already much busier than usual lanes of Radley and Kennington.
[quote][p][bold]Parkie[/bold] wrote: Left Abingdon at 07.00 arrived at work at 0930 one and a half hours late... Totally unacceptable for the other thousands who were delayed. There should be fines levied for this level of disruption. 24hr work gangs are a must, and will create jobs.. But we are all victims of cost cutting and austerity, whilst the councillors feather their nests. The pushbike is ready for tomorrow![/p][/quote]Only two hours quicker on the pushbike, shame I was nearly killed 3 times by lost drivers, who normally catch up with their sleep along the a34, trying to navigate through the already much busier than usual lanes of Radley and Kennington. Parkie
  • Score: 9

9:20am Tue 29 Jul 14

IS says...

Did anyone ask the councillors whether computer simulations of the traffic flows were done? This sort of applied mathematic has been done for over 30 years. I know this because I applied for a job in 1976 to work on traffic light signalling timings in Singapore.
Was anyone watching what was going on on Sunday as there were long delays even then?
Getting from Hinksey Hill to the A34 to go north is taking a very long time as cars going east are blocking the exit so it's taken me up to 4 changes of the lights to get out from the position of the lights.
And has anyone thought of whether this is all going to be affected by the closure of the road from Farmoor to Botley? Where is the eastbound traffic from Eynsham going to go?
How much are all the delays going to cost businesses? Never mind the cost to individuals - multiplying up the costs to those with children in nurseries for a start, given that being 5 minutes late to pick up a child can cost a parent £5.
Did anyone ask the councillors whether computer simulations of the traffic flows were done? This sort of applied mathematic has been done for over 30 years. I know this because I applied for a job in 1976 to work on traffic light signalling timings in Singapore. Was anyone watching what was going on on Sunday as there were long delays even then? Getting from Hinksey Hill to the A34 to go north is taking a very long time as cars going east are blocking the exit so it's taken me up to 4 changes of the lights to get out from the position of the lights. And has anyone thought of whether this is all going to be affected by the closure of the road from Farmoor to Botley? Where is the eastbound traffic from Eynsham going to go? How much are all the delays going to cost businesses? Never mind the cost to individuals - multiplying up the costs to those with children in nurseries for a start, given that being 5 minutes late to pick up a child can cost a parent £5. IS
  • Score: 4

9:52am Tue 29 Jul 14

wolvercoter says...

So what will it be like when the alterations to Wolvercote and Cutteslowe roundabouts take place and when the "Northern Gateway "is being built and is contributing with the traffic to and from
500 homes, plus a large industrial park plus shops and hotels to the holdups at Peartree ? The council is going ahead with it WITHOUT making sure a proper relief link road is built first. They have been told by a Government Inspector and by locals who know these roads to get an effective traffic solution Before going ahead and are apparently intent on ignoring this.
So what will it be like when the alterations to Wolvercote and Cutteslowe roundabouts take place and when the "Northern Gateway "is being built and is contributing with the traffic to and from 500 homes, plus a large industrial park plus shops and hotels to the holdups at Peartree ? The council is going ahead with it WITHOUT making sure a proper relief link road is built first. They have been told by a Government Inspector and by locals who know these roads to get an effective traffic solution Before going ahead and are apparently intent on ignoring this. wolvercoter
  • Score: 2

10:27pm Tue 29 Jul 14

BeggarwoodResident says...

I've been commuting from the South East to Oxford for some years, and even recall when there used to be a roundabout at junction 13 of the M4. Even that work to create an underpass didn't cause this amount of mayhem.

Fortunately we don't get the Oxford BBC news in these parts otherwise I might have thrown something through the TV at this Rose character. What a moron he is! Use public transport? What? And turn what should be an hour journey into 2.5 hours? Mind you, it'll be quicker than my 3 hour journey on Monday morning by car. By these calculations I'll have to leave home at 6am in order to make an 8.30am start.
I've been commuting from the South East to Oxford for some years, and even recall when there used to be a roundabout at junction 13 of the M4. Even that work to create an underpass didn't cause this amount of mayhem. Fortunately we don't get the Oxford BBC news in these parts otherwise I might have thrown something through the TV at this Rose character. What a moron he is! Use public transport? What? And turn what should be an hour journey into 2.5 hours? Mind you, it'll be quicker than my 3 hour journey on Monday morning by car. By these calculations I'll have to leave home at 6am in order to make an 8.30am start. BeggarwoodResident
  • Score: 1

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