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I will not back down over this one I’m afraid...

Oxford Mail: Niall Strawson Niall Strawson

‘I’m in it for the parking’ – it’s a slogan you can get on shirts, mugs and bumper stickers. A kind of disabled in-joke about one of the perks of being disabled. It’s quite true that you can park pretty much anywhere – disabled bays, pay and display and even permit only in Oxford.

But there is one place where even disabled parking is a premium – supermarket shopping, especially as there are no traffic wardens to catch out the cheats. In order to get my chair out, I simply can’t park between two cars like most car parks are laid out. I have previously mentioned about carrying bags and more than one bag on my lap is nigh on impossible. This is one of the reasons they put parking bays adjacent to the entrance, along with the fact that for some small distances are hard to manage.

Recently I have been having an ongoing fight with Co-operative Headington. They have three spaces right next the entrance. Every time I go past there is a Co-op delivery van parked in one of the bays. On several occasions I have had to park in the larger cark park near Waitrose and push to the Co-op due to the presence of the van using up a disabled space-infuriating. I immediately asked to speak to the manager, who loosely apologised and said they couldn’t move the van because someone has been stealing the catalytic converter and they had to keep an eye on the van. I’m sure you could imagine that I didn’t tolerate this. I recall saying “does the bay say catalytic converter protection bay? No. Then move the van, right now”. There was some mild objection as to where to move it to and I said: “I don’t care, just move it”. Reluctantly the van was moved and then the next time I went it was there again. I saw the same manager who moved the van with much less of a fight, but it was still there in the first place. On my most recent visit guess where the van was? Yup, still in a disabled bay. Enraged I went in – different manager. I asked for the van to be moved and he started with a “but”. I cut him off by saying “there are no buts, just move the van.”

So I expect a modicum of ignorance from lazy or selfish parkers using up disabled bays. It’s just part of life but for an organisation to park a branded delivery van, repeatedly, and after being told that is not ok is just arrogant and offensive to me. To tell me that a catalytic converter takes precedence further winds me up. Do I sound angry? Well I am. Disabled people have enough compromises in life without having to deal with issues like this.

I would ask you – the residents of Headington to help me on this campaign. If you see the van parked in the disabled bay – insist they move it. By all means reference me. Eventually they will learn that this disabled man does not back down.

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11:02am Wed 14 May 14

Quentin Walker says...

It is the Co-op's land. They provide bays for you and I consider the way you spoke to their staff to be rude. Non-disabled people also have trouble parking and you should appreciate the privileges you have.
It is the Co-op's land. They provide bays for you and I consider the way you spoke to their staff to be rude. Non-disabled people also have trouble parking and you should appreciate the privileges you have. Quentin Walker
  • Score: -8

11:58am Wed 14 May 14

xenarthra says...

This sounds like the wrong target to me: 90 percent of the time those disabled spaces (and the pushchairs ones next to them) are occupied by shoppers who do not fit the criteria. These are the people you should be having a go at, not the occasional delivery driver whose lorry has been targeted by vandals. I doubt the Coop would be much use to you or anyone else if it didn't have any stock to sell because the delivery lorries were out of action.
This sounds like the wrong target to me: 90 percent of the time those disabled spaces (and the pushchairs ones next to them) are occupied by shoppers who do not fit the criteria. These are the people you should be having a go at, not the occasional delivery driver whose lorry has been targeted by vandals. I doubt the Coop would be much use to you or anyone else if it didn't have any stock to sell because the delivery lorries were out of action. xenarthra
  • Score: 0

12:07pm Wed 14 May 14

online_reader says...

Unfortunately, although this may be morally wrong, it is not legally enforceable http://www.disabledm
otoring.org/parking/
off-street-parking
Unfortunately, although this may be morally wrong, it is not legally enforceable http://www.disabledm otoring.org/parking/ off-street-parking online_reader
  • Score: 4

12:54pm Wed 14 May 14

thomashenry says...

Parking restrictions like this in supermarket car parks are entirely discretionary. If they want to park their van there, they can. Not saying they should do that, but they can do what they like in their own car park.
Parking restrictions like this in supermarket car parks are entirely discretionary. If they want to park their van there, they can. Not saying they should do that, but they can do what they like in their own car park. thomashenry
  • Score: 10

1:13pm Wed 14 May 14

xenarthra says...

thomashenry wrote:
Parking restrictions like this in supermarket car parks are entirely discretionary. If they want to park their van there, they can. Not saying they should do that, but they can do what they like in their own car park.
Not quite: the supermarket has a legal duty to make reasonable provision for disabled shoppers. If they don't take reasonable steps to provide disabled parking, they could get into trouble under anti-discrimination legislation.
[quote][p][bold]thomashenry[/bold] wrote: Parking restrictions like this in supermarket car parks are entirely discretionary. If they want to park their van there, they can. Not saying they should do that, but they can do what they like in their own car park.[/p][/quote]Not quite: the supermarket has a legal duty to make reasonable provision for disabled shoppers. If they don't take reasonable steps to provide disabled parking, they could get into trouble under anti-discrimination legislation. xenarthra
  • Score: 10

3:34pm Wed 14 May 14

cuckoo says...

Tesco's in the Cowley retail park has plenty of disabled spaces...........and is (as I'm sure you know) not too far from Headington. So best you boycott Co Op.........and spend your cash elsewhere! As for carrying your bags I'm sure a member of staff would help you if necessary/if you asked (they even have trolleys adapted for wheelchair use).
Tesco's in the Cowley retail park has plenty of disabled spaces...........and is (as I'm sure you know) not too far from Headington. So best you boycott Co Op.........and spend your cash elsewhere! As for carrying your bags I'm sure a member of staff would help you if necessary/if you asked (they even have trolleys adapted for wheelchair use). cuckoo
  • Score: 7

4:04pm Wed 14 May 14

xenarthra says...

cuckoo wrote:
Tesco's in the Cowley retail park has plenty of disabled spaces...........and is (as I'm sure you know) not too far from Headington. So best you boycott Co Op.........and spend your cash elsewhere! As for carrying your bags I'm sure a member of staff would help you if necessary/if you asked (they even have trolleys adapted for wheelchair use).
I find Internet shopping easier still, and I would have thought Mr Strawson would too. They carry your bags to your kitchen for you, whether you're disabled or not!
[quote][p][bold]cuckoo[/bold] wrote: Tesco's in the Cowley retail park has plenty of disabled spaces...........and is (as I'm sure you know) not too far from Headington. So best you boycott Co Op.........and spend your cash elsewhere! As for carrying your bags I'm sure a member of staff would help you if necessary/if you asked (they even have trolleys adapted for wheelchair use).[/p][/quote]I find Internet shopping easier still, and I would have thought Mr Strawson would too. They carry your bags to your kitchen for you, whether you're disabled or not! xenarthra
  • Score: 10

5:30pm Wed 14 May 14

John Lamb says...

Co-op (KIdlington) also allow massive lorries to reverse, without a guider, into a no entry road across a zebra crossing and around a BLIND BEND.
I that doesn't scream accident waiting to happen then I don't know what does.
Idiotic delivery drivers are an absolute pain in the backside.
Also, the very lazy people who park up in McDonalds, Botley disabled parking spaces really cheese me off.
Staff seem stunned and confused when it's mentioned to them.
Co-op (KIdlington) also allow massive lorries to reverse, without a guider, into a no entry road across a zebra crossing and around a BLIND BEND. I that doesn't scream accident waiting to happen then I don't know what does. Idiotic delivery drivers are an absolute pain in the backside. Also, the very lazy people who park up in McDonalds, Botley disabled parking spaces really cheese me off. Staff seem stunned and confused when it's mentioned to them. John Lamb
  • Score: -3

8:00am Thu 15 May 14

Wauden says...

Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain!
Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain! Wauden
  • Score: 5

12:06pm Thu 15 May 14

xenarthra says...

Wauden wrote:
Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain!
They're not necessarily breaking the law. It all comes down to what is "reasonable" in the circumstances.

"Where a provider of services has a practice, policy or procedure which makes it impossible or unreasonably difficult for disabled persons to make use of a service which he provides, or is prepared to provide, to other members of the public, it is his duty to take such steps as it is reasonable, in all the circumstances of the case, for him to have to take in order to change that practice, policy or procedure so that it no longer has that effect." - s.21(1), Disability Discrimination Act 1995
[quote][p][bold]Wauden[/bold] wrote: Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain![/p][/quote]They're not necessarily breaking the law. It all comes down to what is "reasonable" in the circumstances. "Where a provider of services has a practice, policy or procedure which makes it impossible or unreasonably difficult for disabled persons to make use of a service which he provides, or is prepared to provide, to other members of the public, it is his duty to take such steps as it is reasonable, in all the circumstances of the case, for him to have to take in order to change that practice, policy or procedure so that it no longer has that effect." - s.21(1), Disability Discrimination Act 1995 xenarthra
  • Score: 0

2:58pm Thu 15 May 14

DKR1987 says...

weakness is strength in Britain 2014.

i don't have such an issue (tho the principle of 'positive' discrimination is wrong however you look at it) with genuinely disabled people having dedicated spots to park but you can get a disabled badge for obesity!
weakness is strength in Britain 2014. i don't have such an issue (tho the principle of 'positive' discrimination is wrong however you look at it) with genuinely disabled people having dedicated spots to park but you can get a disabled badge for obesity! DKR1987
  • Score: 1

11:49pm Thu 15 May 14

Dilligaf2010 says...

I can't believe the amount of people slagging off disabled drivers, I'd love to see some of you confined to a wheelchair for a while, maybe have an arm or a leg strapped up so it can't be used too.
I wonder how many of you are parents with young kids, who happily make use of the designated parking spaces in supermarkets, and complain when there aren't any available.
Just for the record, I'm not disabled and I'm not related to anyone that is, but unlike a large percentage of the population, I still show consideration to others.
I can't believe the amount of people slagging off disabled drivers, I'd love to see some of you confined to a wheelchair for a while, maybe have an arm or a leg strapped up so it can't be used too. I wonder how many of you are parents with young kids, who happily make use of the designated parking spaces in supermarkets, and complain when there aren't any available. Just for the record, I'm not disabled and I'm not related to anyone that is, but unlike a large percentage of the population, I still show consideration to others. Dilligaf2010
  • Score: 15

6:32pm Fri 16 May 14

oafie says...

Don't go to Asda at Wheatley where they let large 4x4 use disabled spaces and as for parent child ones...good grief the amount who say they are parents but do not have the children with them...
Don't go to Asda at Wheatley where they let large 4x4 use disabled spaces and as for parent child ones...good grief the amount who say they are parents but do not have the children with them... oafie
  • Score: 1

9:04am Sat 17 May 14

Madi50n says...

More proof, as if I needed it, that some of the commentators on here are genuinely nasty people.

Disabled people have "Privileges"? Get "Brand new cars"?

Remember, but for a little luck you too could be disabled and could need those spaces yourself, at anytime in your life that could still be the case, would you deserve the kind of bigoted, narrow-minded & utterly contemptible attitude you've displayed here directed at you?

I'm glad I know none of you in person as I think your presence in anyone's life would make that life a lot more depressing.
More proof, as if I needed it, that some of the commentators on here are genuinely nasty people. Disabled people have "Privileges"? Get "Brand new cars"? Remember, but for a little luck you too could be disabled and could need those spaces yourself, at anytime in your life that could still be the case, would you deserve the kind of bigoted, narrow-minded & utterly contemptible attitude you've displayed here directed at you? I'm glad I know none of you in person as I think your presence in anyone's life would make that life a lot more depressing. Madi50n
  • Score: 11

11:44am Sat 17 May 14

Wauden says...

xenarthra wrote:
Wauden wrote:
Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain!
They're not necessarily breaking the law. It all comes down to what is "reasonable" in the circumstances.

"Where a provider of services has a practice, policy or procedure which makes it impossible or unreasonably difficult for disabled persons to make use of a service which he provides, or is prepared to provide, to other members of the public, it is his duty to take such steps as it is reasonable, in all the circumstances of the case, for him to have to take in order to change that practice, policy or procedure so that it no longer has that effect." - s.21(1), Disability Discrimination Act 1995
Of course it would have been 'reasonable' (and the decent, civilised thing to do) to have moved the van from the disabled parking bay so that the customer could shop! All the customer wanted to do was to park and shop! He was prevented from doing so, several times. Allowing him to park and shop is reasonable.
Its a parking bay for the disabled, that the supermarket itself blocked and did not unblock it.
Some of the other, nasty comments prove that the disabled have a lot to contend with in life.
[quote][p][bold]xenarthra[/bold] wrote: [quote][p][bold]Wauden[/bold] wrote: Good for you, not backing down! The supermarket is of course breaking the law by preventing you from accessing their facility. Life is tough enough for the disabled without this aggravation. The manager should have apologised and moved the van asap. Write and complain![/p][/quote]They're not necessarily breaking the law. It all comes down to what is "reasonable" in the circumstances. "Where a provider of services has a practice, policy or procedure which makes it impossible or unreasonably difficult for disabled persons to make use of a service which he provides, or is prepared to provide, to other members of the public, it is his duty to take such steps as it is reasonable, in all the circumstances of the case, for him to have to take in order to change that practice, policy or procedure so that it no longer has that effect." - s.21(1), Disability Discrimination Act 1995[/p][/quote]Of course it would have been 'reasonable' (and the decent, civilised thing to do) to have moved the van from the disabled parking bay so that the customer could shop! All the customer wanted to do was to park and shop! He was prevented from doing so, several times. Allowing him to park and shop is reasonable. Its a parking bay for the disabled, that the supermarket itself blocked and did not unblock it. Some of the other, nasty comments prove that the disabled have a lot to contend with in life. Wauden
  • Score: 7

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